EPT[Patch 3.13] Heimer Rework General Discussion - Page 102
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FinestHour
United States18466 Posts
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Frudgey
Canada3367 Posts
On November 07 2013 07:23 GhandiEAGLE wrote: Tiamat procs a stack? That's brutal. Speaking of which, do people jungle Darius often? I do it sometimes in normals and it's seriously one of the most fun junglers I've ever played. Jungle Darius is fun Darius. Nothing is more fun than literally walking to lane to whack people with your axe. People expect you to instantly apprehend them as soon as you get to lane. Nope. Not me. I just walk up to them, which sometimes confuses them, and then apprehend them once they've realized it's too late for them. | ||
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Alaric
France45622 Posts
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Kinie
United States3106 Posts
On November 07 2013 08:34 Alaric wrote: This Jax rape on PBE wtf. x_o For those who can't read it: + Show Spoiler [PBE patch notes] + Champion Changes Jax Base Health is now 550 (down from 561) Base Health gained per level is now 87 (down from 98) Empower [ W ] - Additional damage is now 60/80/100/120/140 (changed from 40/75/110/145/180) Empower [ W ] - Now costs 20/25/30/35/40 Mana (changed from 30) Lucian Piercing Light [ Q ] - Now damages enemies in a line for 60/75/90/105/120 % of bonus Attack Damage Piercing Light [ Q ] - No longer displayed in the tooltip: 'Current bonus Attack Damage ratio: %' The Culling [ R ] - Each shot now deals 40/50/60 damage (down from 50/55/60) The Culling [ R ] - Total scaling over 0.25 shots is now 0.1 physical damage (changed from 0.1*AD) The Culling [ R ] - Cooldown is now 100/75/50 Seconds (Down from 110/85/60) Sona Crescendo [ R ] - Scaling is now 0.5*AP (up from 0.4*AP) Item Changes Warding Totem Base MP is now 60 (down from 90) Brace of the Mountain UNIQUE Active - Added to the tooltip: '60 second cooldown' Kage's Lucky Pick Now costs 765 (down from 850) Mana Regen is now per 5 seconds (down from 10) Kage's Pick Mana Regen is now per 5 seconds (down from 10) Lord Van Damm's Pillager Now costs 2882 (Down from 2962) Philosopher's Stone Now costs 700 (Down from 850) Shard of True Ice Now costs 1915 (Down from 2000) Shurelya's Reverie Now costs 1850 (Down from 2000) Soul Shroud Now costs 2110 (Down from 13 990) Spirit of the Ancient Golem Passive's gold bonus is now 40 (up from 30) Spirit of the Elder Lizard Passive's gold bonus is now 40 (up from 30) Spirit of the Spectral Wraith Passive's gold bonus is now 40 (up from 30) The Black Cleaver Now costs 2920 (Down from 3000) The Brutalizer Now costs 1257 (Down from 1337) Youmuu's Ghostblade Now costs 2620 (down from 2700) So Jax just lost ~200 or 300 HP and Empower (his W) is nerfed a bit at max rank. | ||
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Haiq343
United States2548 Posts
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Alaric
France45622 Posts
Yeah, I exaggerated, I dunno if people max Q or W first (I max Q), but even maxing W it's not that big since Empower includes an auto attack so the damage reduction is less than 23%. | ||
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cLutZ
United States19574 Posts
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petered
United States1817 Posts
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BlasiuS
United States2405 Posts
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Zess
Adun Toridas!9144 Posts
Still, I'm wary of dismissing changes as small just because they are fairly small, since this game has shown to be pretty unstable. | ||
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UnKooL
Korea (South)1667 Posts
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FinestHour
United States18466 Posts
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Alaric
France45622 Posts
Another item that "may" be returning is Soul Shroud, or maybe its price has only changed because of a price change on one of its components? | ||
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petered
United States1817 Posts
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Anakko
France1934 Posts
On November 07 2013 08:50 BlasiuS wrote: The big change here is that Lord Van Damm's Pillager is returning. Oh god. Darius ult with spellvamp. Kha-zix isolated Q with spellvamp. The horror. | ||
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Kinie
United States3106 Posts
On November 07 2013 09:02 Anakko wrote: Oh god. Darius ult with spellvamp. Kha-zix isolated Q with spellvamp. The horror. Riven. | ||
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Kinie
United States3106 Posts
If these changes to pre-season 4 go through with Van Damm's weapon, Riven will instantly shoot up to 100% pick/ban. Van Damm + Hydra + Black Cleaver (or Youmei) in CDR boots. Tons (and puns) of damage, high mobility, basically every attack is a lifesteal for her and ArPen, she gets a single tanky item (or GA) and she can just dive into the backline and W-Hydra-E-R everyone. | ||
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Requizen
United States33802 Posts
On November 07 2013 09:02 Anakko wrote: Oh god. Darius ult with spellvamp. Kha-zix isolated Q with spellvamp. The horror. The only thing Darius is really scary having Spellvamp for is his ult, since his Q is AoE it only gets 33% of the healing. Kha slash and Panth spear are scurry. On November 07 2013 09:07 Kinie wrote: In my opinion, that 10% HP nerf, combined with the lowering of his W damage, might have just knocked him out of the holy trinity in top of Jax vs. Renekton vs. Shen. You can no longer build a single defensive item on him (usually Sunfire or Randuin's) and hit 3k HP with Randuin + Triforce + Dshield + Botrk (which from what I can see is like 95% of pro-level Jax players build). Shen and Rene still hit 3k with that same gold investment of 8-12k and can still be relevant in teamfights or split push team comps. Riven. Also all AoE. | ||
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Alzadar
Canada5009 Posts
edit: ok so I'm 99% sure you mentioned his passive being a DoT and not getting full vamp, I guess you ninja'd me I'm pretty sure Riot isn't stupid enough to put Van Damm's Pillager into Summoner's Rift, it will almost certainly remain a Treeline item. | ||
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Requizen
United States33802 Posts
On November 07 2013 09:11 Alzadar wrote: That's a common misconception, DoTs get full spellvamp. They get reduced Rylai's slow. edit: ok so I'm 99% sure you mentioned his passive being a DoT and not getting full vamp, I guess you ninja'd me Yeah, I quick looked it up and edited it. I mean, Spellvamp is still not bad considering Riven has so much AD and multiple spells (5 altogether on a full combo, short CDs), but Lifesteal is so good on her anyway that I don't think it'll be a big deal. Darius, I feel, wouldn't even get the item over tankier stuff so he can survive close enough to do the damage. | ||
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