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TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
November 07 2013 00:22 GMT
#2041
Soul Shroud

Now costs 2110 (Down from 13 990)

Riot pls
Moderator
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
November 07 2013 00:25 GMT
#2042
Speaking of Soul Shroud, I've always wondered: when you get CDR while something is on CD, does it affect that ability immediately (speeding up the CD) or not until it finishes?
It's your boy Guzma!
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35143 Posts
November 07 2013 00:25 GMT
#2043
On November 07 2013 08:54 xes wrote:
Its around a 10% nerf to his base HP and 15% nerf to base dmg with W on. Buying a triforce makes those decreases even less.

Still, I'm wary of dismissing changes as small just because they are fairly small, since this game has shown to be pretty unstable.

Here's the issue, 200% Triforce is strong. Riot doesn't want to nerf Triforce anymore. Thus, everybody that they deem is a balance issue that uses Triforce is taking a hit.
overt
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States9006 Posts
November 07 2013 00:28 GMT
#2044
On November 07 2013 09:25 Gahlo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 07 2013 08:54 xes wrote:
Its around a 10% nerf to his base HP and 15% nerf to base dmg with W on. Buying a triforce makes those decreases even less.

Still, I'm wary of dismissing changes as small just because they are fairly small, since this game has shown to be pretty unstable.

Here's the issue, 200% Triforce is strong. Riot doesn't want to nerf Triforce anymore. Thus, everybody that they deem is a balance issue that uses Triforce is taking a hit getting nerfed into oblivion.


First Corki, now Jax.

Taking bets on Irelia or Ezreal getting nerfed next.
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
November 07 2013 00:37 GMT
#2045
CDR only "works" at the time when you cast an ability Req, that's why Yango finds Shroud so shitty because the aura is awkward to use.

On November 07 2013 09:07 Kinie wrote:
she gets a single tanky item (or GA) and she can just dive into the backline and W-Hydra-E-R everyone.

She already does that. And yeah, I'd rather see Renekton nerfed because of how oppressive he is and the fact that with all the items changes and nerfs to top laners he doesn't even fall off late game compared to the rest like he used to. Friggin' annoying to deal with (maining Jax and Irelia doesn't help, obviously... ), and boring to lane against.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
arb
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Noobville17921 Posts
November 07 2013 00:39 GMT
#2046
On November 07 2013 09:25 Requizen wrote:
Speaking of Soul Shroud, I've always wondered: when you get CDR while something is on CD, does it affect that ability immediately (speeding up the CD) or not until it finishes?

it effects it on the next use but not if its already on cd
Artillery spawned from the forges of Hell
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
November 07 2013 00:40 GMT
#2047
's what I figured, just never knew specifically
It's your boy Guzma!
Haiq343
Profile Joined August 2011
United States2548 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-07 01:01:07
November 07 2013 00:44 GMT
#2048
I'm not sure I would characterize either the corki nerf or these jax changes as "getting nerfed into oblivion." That seems a tad hyperbolic.

E:fucking auto-correct does not approve of LoL terminology.
I am enough of an artist to draw freely upon my imagination. Imagination is more important than knowledge. For knowledge is limited, whereas imagination encircles the world. -Einstein
Zess
Profile Joined July 2012
Adun Toridas!9144 Posts
November 07 2013 00:52 GMT
#2049
Overbuffed triforce? Better nerf Irelia
Administrator@TL_Zess
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Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
November 07 2013 00:54 GMT
#2050
Irelia hasn't been touched for almost 2 years now
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35143 Posts
November 07 2013 01:03 GMT
#2051
On November 07 2013 09:54 Sufficiency wrote:
Irelia hasn't been touched for almost 2 years now

She's getting awful lonely.
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
November 07 2013 01:05 GMT
#2052
On November 07 2013 10:03 Gahlo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 07 2013 09:54 Sufficiency wrote:
Irelia hasn't been touched for almost 2 years now

She's getting awful lonely.


I should keep her company.

+ Show Spoiler +
By offering free snuggles.
+ Show Spoiler +
I am a disgusting person and I should go outside more.
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
overt
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States9006 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-07 01:08:08
November 07 2013 01:07 GMT
#2053
On November 07 2013 09:44 Haiq343 wrote:
I'm not sure I would characterize either the corki nerf or these jax changes as "getting nerfed into oblivion." That seems a tad hyperbolic.

E:fucking auto-correct does not approve of LoL terminology.


Yes, you can still play Corki in pub play. If these nerfs go through you'll be able to play Jax just fine in solo queue.

I can't imagine you'll see Corki at IEM or Battle for Atlantic. Nor Jax if these nerfs happen.

edit:
I think it's really likely that both champs are going to go from overplayed at worlds to nearly never played competitively.
57 Corvette
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada5941 Posts
November 07 2013 01:13 GMT
#2054
Going live again, still trying to get out of the LP clamping in Gold 1.
Twitch.tv/hiicantpk
Survival is winning, everything else is bullshit.
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35143 Posts
November 07 2013 01:14 GMT
#2055
WTB elo boost.
+ Show Spoiler +
Sadly I'm half serious+ Show Spoiler +
but only because I gots no monies.+ Show Spoiler +
Damn you protoss spider. =[
Shelke14
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada6655 Posts
November 07 2013 01:24 GMT
#2056
I thought they took out clamping up toll Dia1? Ill duo brah, that should help you out
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
November 07 2013 01:33 GMT
#2057
Soul Shroud is back? yes. I love this item
liftlift > tsm
Haiq343
Profile Joined August 2011
United States2548 Posts
November 07 2013 01:57 GMT
#2058
On November 07 2013 10:07 overt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 07 2013 09:44 Haiq343 wrote:
I'm not sure I would characterize either the corki nerf or these jax changes as "getting nerfed into oblivion." That seems a tad hyperbolic.

E:fucking auto-correct does not approve of LoL terminology.


Yes, you can still play Corki in pub play. If these nerfs go through you'll be able to play Jax just fine in solo queue.

I can't imagine you'll see Corki at IEM or Battle for Atlantic. Nor Jax if these nerfs happen.

edit:
I think it's really likely that both champs are going to go from overplayed at worlds to nearly never played competitively.

Corki at least was obviously broken/overpowered @ worlds. Jax's late game could use a small tweak downward which this does. I'm not claiming to know if the nerfs are too severe or not yet, merely that the certainly don't appear to be "omg olaf'd" status and calling them either way at this point is baseless.
I am enough of an artist to draw freely upon my imagination. Imagination is more important than knowledge. For knowledge is limited, whereas imagination encircles the world. -Einstein
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31494 Posts
November 07 2013 01:59 GMT
#2059
On November 07 2013 10:14 Gahlo wrote:
WTB elo boost.
+ Show Spoiler +
Sadly I'm half serious+ Show Spoiler +
but only because I gots no monies.+ Show Spoiler +
Damn you protoss spider. =[

You can join me in the 'doesn't deserve shit' club.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
UnKooL
Profile Joined August 2010
Korea (South)1667 Posts
November 07 2013 02:11 GMT
#2060
On November 07 2013 10:59 WaveofShadow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 07 2013 10:14 Gahlo wrote:
WTB elo boost.
+ Show Spoiler +
Sadly I'm half serious+ Show Spoiler +
but only because I gots no monies.+ Show Spoiler +
Damn you protoss spider. =[

You can join me in the 'doesn't deserve shit' club.

What are your tiers?
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