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On October 10 2013 16:57 Oproer wrote:
I had a lot of fun yesterday. I learned a lot..
In one game I went mid Orianna vs Kayle, but even though my score wasn't too bad, Kayle managed to roam a lot and pick up 3 kills very early. Should've warded better in the mid to prevent that. I also really need to work on last-hitting. For some reason I missed a lot of CS..
In a normal game i played afterwards I warded more actively when I went mid Zilean and denied the Ahri roam because of 1 single ward placed strategically.
In the other two games I went support Lulu with with Vayne as ADC and that went a lot better. I like to play passively and poke away at the opponent. I figure they can't engage on us when they're both at 60% HP and we can easily make something happen when the jungle visits.
Maybe I should focus more on playing support better, rather than mid. I am not a great playmaker, and I think it's easier to get away with that as support. I think it gives a better opportunity to learn while still not messing up the game completely if you fail. Support are supposed to make things happen as well though, and not feed their ADC, but at least you have your own ADC to fall back on.
A few sloppy deaths aside I think you supported well tbh, at least it really worked with my style of adc. I could basically free-farm with the pressure you were giving, and because you were trading with them that meant that when I traded they had to back off. It's a very harass-but-not-all-in style, which suits my adc (even tho I don't adc often ^^). Personally when I play support I try to do roughly the same altho it depends on the adc in question ofcourse.
I've found that jungle isn't really my best role (after top), since I just don't think I play the engaging beefy's too well. I like to be either the carry or support moving around the beefy's ^^ One thing I'm wondering/worrying about is weather or not Viktor and Ziggs are viable mid's at high end games, or if champs like Gragas and Orianna don't just bring more to the table when it comes to locking up ganks and providing utility for the team. Looking forward to more games =)
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On October 10 2013 21:01 The_Unseen wrote:Show nested quote +On October 10 2013 19:39 Sponkz wrote:On October 10 2013 16:54 The_Unseen wrote:On October 10 2013 06:47 Sponkz wrote:On October 10 2013 06:42 Alaric wrote:
TIL I'm known as the QQer and I definitely don't have the faintest idea how to lane against Aatrox. I should just default to something that shoves harder than Shen and ignore him next time I get sent top against him in ranked 5s. :x It's okay bro, TIL how badly out of shape i am. Can't even keep consistency for more than one day, before i start fucking up basic shit. Fuck school  Poor student :'( Anyway yeah Killerdog you did miss some, even though we were not able to run proper Inhouses due to Riot deactivating Custom games (rly?), everyone went in R5 teams and it was a lot of fun. I spent most of my night with that setup : Sponkz top, Doctorbeat jungle, Spoon mid, Lenwe support and myself ADC, and we had a lot of fun and learnt quite a lot. And even though Sponkz sucks balls in lane, he's a beast at team comps / decision making, it just flowed so naturally *_* In other news, Lenwe is a beastly support and I love him "Guys I'm like top5 Nunu EUW, i can shit on any jax easy" *Proceeds to feed jax 1 kill under his tower without minions* DIAMOND FUCKING PLAYS BITCHES I seem to remember it was first blood, too, Nunu vs Jax 2ez
I seriously hate passive fuckers, makes me go balls deep all day
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Diamond1 too stronk. I liked the Shen game too, where Spoon Doc and Lenwe outplayed the other team like crazy to get me a triple kill around lvl 7/8, and you didn't deem necessary to ult in
SPONK NEW GOD EUW
SUP NIGGAZ
EDIT : I love you tho <3
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So maybe we are gonna make some more custom 5v5s or ranked 5v5s later today? Atm there are almost 30 ppl on tl lol ingame channel.
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Feel free to hit people up and you'll be likely to find some willing to play with ya. Only reason we set organised days and times is for people to free up their time and plan that they'll be playing with other TLers on a given date 
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On October 10 2013 20:24 Alaric wrote:Show nested quote +On October 10 2013 16:50 Slayer91 wrote:On October 10 2013 07:41 Alaric wrote:On October 10 2013 06:49 Slayer91 wrote:On October 10 2013 06:42 Alaric wrote:
TIL I'm known as the QQer LOL should just pick shit ur good at, dunno why everyone goes full retarded with fotm champs as soon as they go to 5s Yeah, he was pretty bad, only thing he actually managed was his Q, however we fucked up and I had Exhaust over Ignite. Basic rundown of the game was: - he drops to 33% at level 1 because pushing lets me auto the minions a bunch and he didn't even try to avoid my Q->passive auto harass. - hits 2 first, immediatly level W and starts healing like mad. I hit 2 two creeps later, enough that's up to more than half, he proceeds to tank 8-9 minions after I taunted him and still outtrades me because of the huge-ass sustain that I can't cut through, even at level 2. - He hits 3 first, dives me, kills me with Ignite's ticks and loses his passive. And then he snowballed because it's Aatrox. He played mindlessly but his bare right-clicks were enough to outtrade me burning everything. Thing is my top main is supposed Jax or Irelia, and I only played these lanes once, lost pretty horribly after trying to all-in him early (like 3-4) after trying to build a creep advantage, failed because sustain and passive are dumb, then got snowballed on. I asked around several times but never got an answer as to how I'm supposed to play these lanes so playing one of my mains or something else obviously won't change much. Aatrox looks like a champ that places the burden on you to know how to beat him because his brainless case is still super good (still can punish burning Q for no reason but they don't stoop so low), and I'm not really motivated to practice it because it's a boring as heck lane and I don't see him that often (blessed me). So I guess the tl;dr is "How do I lane vs Aatrox as Irelia/Jax?". dunno, always found aatrox pretty easy. he only heals for 60 every 3 hits and that's below half. Once he's above half he can't really heal anymore. Just don't do stupid things like constantly trying to trade when he's low. You just need to win 1 trade and stay on high hp and then zone him from creeps, he's going to keep healing to half at tower but that doesn't matter too much. All-ining the dude with a free ga is dumb. You just need to win a trade so he's around half and you're higher and then you threaten to kill his passive and run again. you just need to decide if you're going to trade-->all-in or else just let him push and farm and wait. You can't half ass things because he has no mana and can heal up. I played irelia vs him, but not jax, but it was super easy. Once you get some levels and armour just E stun W and some autos and Q or and once he's below half you just back off with nearly full hp pop some pots and kill him with ignite and ult from 50% to zero (or pop passive and he's zoned anyway) Dunno with Irelia I felt like with Hiten down I'd straight up lose trades if I try to attack him to prevent him from healing a bunch when he's below half, so I'd drop him there during a trade, and then until Hiten cd came back up he'd heal a ton and I'd almost be back to 0 when ready to trade again. At then at one point I'd run oom while he laughs. Maybe I just suck. @_@ So basically I suck it up till first back or 6 or something like that because he's going to lol-E shove the lane for free and I'll farm under tower, then once I get my warden's or tabi or something like that and level 5+, only then I try fighting him, by setting up the all-in then all-ining him if he refuses to get zoned.
again, you assume aatrox can heal up to full, he can heal up to 50% efore his heal is barely more than you heal with W autos (when its only giving half becuase W isn't active). He also is going to run out of creeps if he tries to keep healing up. If he tries too agressively to attack you with less than half hp in your creep wave you can just use ignite. There's always enough time to pop passive and run if necessary.
also fighting people before level 5 as irelia is pretty dumb anyway, you can't escape from ganks and you probably don't want to start a wrad whne you can so easily play passive and farm every cs at tower. You don't have to suck anything up to play defensively with irelia. Expecting to kill anyone top eraly is so dumb when its so easy for jungler to come and kill you then
also with jax it's the same shit again, you just rape him after you hit 6 and save your ignite for when you mean to kill/pop passive.
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On October 10 2013 22:45 The_Unseen wrote:Feel free to hit people up and you'll be likely to find some willing to play with ya. Only reason we set organised days and times is for people to free up their time and plan that they'll be playing with other TLers on a given date
Btw are we doing the inhouses this saturday then? Pretty much most of the people that were on yesterday were okay with it.
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I will not be there on saturday, but I suppose Impirion or Killerdog or Sponkz or whoever the fuck else could take the lead for this one !
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Well i'll be there on saturday and i'll be happy to help set things up.
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On October 10 2013 16:54 The_Unseen wrote:Show nested quote +On October 10 2013 06:47 Sponkz wrote:On October 10 2013 06:42 Alaric wrote:
TIL I'm known as the QQer and I definitely don't have the faintest idea how to lane against Aatrox. I should just default to something that shoves harder than Shen and ignore him next time I get sent top against him in ranked 5s. :x It's okay bro, TIL how badly out of shape i am. Can't even keep consistency for more than one day, before i start fucking up basic shit. Fuck school Poor student :'( Anyway yeah Killerdog you did miss some, even though we were not able to run proper Inhouses due to Riot deactivating Custom games (rly?), everyone went in R5 teams and it was a lot of fun. I spent most of my night with that setup : Sponkz top, Doctorbeat jungle, Spoon mid, Lenwe support and myself ADC, and we had a lot of fun and learnt quite a lot. And even though Sponkz sucks balls in lane, he's a beast at team comps / decision making, it just flowed so naturally *_* In other news, Lenwe is a beastly support and I love him
Thanks, but I feel that I still have so much to learn, Not only in lane, but also in communication and the postlaning phase part. And don't count out yourself, you win and loose lane together.
I had a lot of fun last night and I'm deffinately up for more games in the future. I've got vacation the entire next week, but I won't be around on saturday.
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I might be on a bit later tonight (9:30-10 ish), so if you get enough people before then just go without me. If we can't get enough people for customs we could just premade ranked again or something.
edit: oops, killerdog posting from a friends computer, forgot i wasn't logged in here.
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Hmm are there IHs tonight ?
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Wait sorry, meant tomorrow night. Sleep deprivation makes tenses hard
I'll probably be up for some games tonight though, if anyone wants to ranked 5v5 or customs or something.
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Won't be there tomorrow, but maybe we can do some ranekd 5's this evening.
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I might be around tomorrow, depending on whether I'm being dragged by my friends off to actually attempt to win 5 games in team ranked so we get our glorious bronze badge 
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Anyone who's up for ranked 5's just get onto ts.
edit: Currently just me and spoon sitting all alone
Edit: You guys and your doing things on fridays
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I think I can play a game or two. You guys still up to it?
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Russian Federation1401 Posts
what's the TS address? I'm in!
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tomorrow borked
we gonn rapp scip
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