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On October 10 2013 05:21 koziol wrote:
anyway, wat should i do as a jax in a vs garen lane? i could farm kinda well before first back, I even almost killed u when i hit lv 2 before you but then around 3-4 u killed me 1v1 and it got snowballed so bad.. :p
ya didnt know you hit level 2 first was so distracted trying to get used to no mousepad (thought I should have it with me, need to look again) and new animations for minions woahhh
should just stack armour and play safe. Once you get some armour +pots its going to be pretty hard for garen to do much except free farm and you can always get ganks.
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TIL I'm known as the QQer and I definitely don't have the faintest idea how to lane against Aatrox. I should just default to something that shoves harder than Shen and ignore him next time I get sent top against him in ranked 5s. :x
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On October 10 2013 06:42 Alaric wrote:
TIL I'm known as the QQer and I definitely don't have the faintest idea how to lane against Aatrox. I should just default to something that shoves harder than Shen and ignore him next time I get sent top against him in ranked 5s. :x
It's okay bro, TIL how badly out of shape i am. Can't even keep consistency for more than one day, before i start fucking up basic shit. Fuck school 
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On October 10 2013 06:42 Alaric wrote:
TIL I'm known as the QQer
LOL
should just pick shit ur good at, dunno why everyone goes full retarded with fotm champs as soon as they go to 5s
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Agreed slayer, I'd say always play stuff you enjoy, especially when not at the highest level it's often more natural to get good with champs you enjoy =) I personally love Viktor and Ziggs as mid, and while sometimes I do feel I'm missing certain bits of utility or more commonly "lock up power" to make a gank work or force plays, I still enjoy the shit out of those two and will continue to pick them over other mids untill I stop loving them =)
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Oh and big props to Sting, who held his own brilliantly against a Diamond IV Oriana on his Jayce!
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On October 10 2013 06:49 Slayer91 wrote:LOL should just pick shit ur good at, dunno why everyone goes full retarded with fotm champs as soon as they go to 5s
Yeah, he was pretty bad, only thing he actually managed was his Q, however we fucked up and I had Exhaust over Ignite.
Basic rundown of the game was:
- he drops to 33% at level 1 because pushing lets me auto the minions a bunch and he didn't even try to avoid my Q->passive auto harass.
- hits 2 first, immediatly level W and starts healing like mad. I hit 2 two creeps later, enough that's up to more than half, he proceeds to tank 8-9 minions after I taunted him and still outtrades me because of the huge-ass sustain that I can't cut through, even at level 2.
- He hits 3 first, dives me, kills me with Ignite's ticks and loses his passive.
And then he snowballed because it's Aatrox. He played mindlessly but his bare right-clicks were enough to outtrade me burning everything.
Thing is my top main is supposed Jax or Irelia, and I only played these lanes once, lost pretty horribly after trying to all-in him early (like 3-4) after trying to build a creep advantage, failed because sustain and passive are dumb, then got snowballed on. I asked around several times but never got an answer as to how I'm supposed to play these lanes so playing one of my mains or something else obviously won't change much.
Aatrox looks like a champ that places the burden on you to know how to beat him because his brainless case is still super good (still can punish burning Q for no reason but they don't stoop so low), and I'm not really motivated to practice it because it's a boring as heck lane and I don't see him that often (blessed me).
So I guess the tl;dr is "How do I lane vs Aatrox as Irelia/Jax?".
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Wasn't able to come tonight (mountains of coursework still needing to be coded, screw you university >.> ) but it doesn't sound like I missed to much
I'm up for Saturday though.
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On October 10 2013 07:41 Alaric wrote:Show nested quote +On October 10 2013 06:49 Slayer91 wrote:On October 10 2013 06:42 Alaric wrote:
TIL I'm known as the QQer LOL should just pick shit ur good at, dunno why everyone goes full retarded with fotm champs as soon as they go to 5s Yeah, he was pretty bad, only thing he actually managed was his Q, however we fucked up and I had Exhaust over Ignite. Basic rundown of the game was: - he drops to 33% at level 1 because pushing lets me auto the minions a bunch and he didn't even try to avoid my Q->passive auto harass. - hits 2 first, immediatly level W and starts healing like mad. I hit 2 two creeps later, enough that's up to more than half, he proceeds to tank 8-9 minions after I taunted him and still outtrades me because of the huge-ass sustain that I can't cut through, even at level 2. - He hits 3 first, dives me, kills me with Ignite's ticks and loses his passive. And then he snowballed because it's Aatrox. He played mindlessly but his bare right-clicks were enough to outtrade me burning everything. Thing is my top main is supposed Jax or Irelia, and I only played these lanes once, lost pretty horribly after trying to all-in him early (like 3-4) after trying to build a creep advantage, failed because sustain and passive are dumb, then got snowballed on. I asked around several times but never got an answer as to how I'm supposed to play these lanes so playing one of my mains or something else obviously won't change much. Aatrox looks like a champ that places the burden on you to know how to beat him because his brainless case is still super good (still can punish burning Q for no reason but they don't stoop so low), and I'm not really motivated to practice it because it's a boring as heck lane and I don't see him that often (blessed me). So I guess the tl;dr is "How do I lane vs Aatrox as Irelia/Jax?".
dunno, always found aatrox pretty easy. he only heals for 60 every 3 hits and that's below half. Once he's above half he can't really heal anymore. Just don't do stupid things like constantly trying to trade when he's low. You just need to win 1 trade and stay on high hp and then zone him from creeps, he's going to keep healing to half at tower but that doesn't matter too much. All-ining the dude with a free ga is dumb. You just need to win a trade so he's around half and you're higher and then you threaten to kill his passive and run again.
you just need to decide if you're going to trade-->all-in or else just let him push and farm and wait. You can't half ass things because he has no mana and can heal up.
I played irelia vs him, but not jax, but it was super easy. Once you get some levels and armour just E stun W and some autos and Q or and once he's below half you just back off with nearly full hp pop some pots and kill him with ignite and ult from 50% to zero (or pop passive and he's zoned anyway)
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On October 10 2013 06:47 Sponkz wrote:Show nested quote +On October 10 2013 06:42 Alaric wrote:
TIL I'm known as the QQer and I definitely don't have the faintest idea how to lane against Aatrox. I should just default to something that shoves harder than Shen and ignore him next time I get sent top against him in ranked 5s. :x It's okay bro, TIL how badly out of shape i am. Can't even keep consistency for more than one day, before i start fucking up basic shit. Fuck school
Poor student :'(
Anyway yeah Killerdog you did miss some, even though we were not able to run proper Inhouses due to Riot deactivating Custom games (rly?), everyone went in R5 teams and it was a lot of fun. I spent most of my night with that setup : Sponkz top, Doctorbeat jungle, Spoon mid, Lenwe support and myself ADC, and we had a lot of fun and learnt quite a lot. And even though Sponkz sucks balls in lane, he's a beast at team comps / decision making, it just flowed so naturally *_*
In other news, Lenwe is a beastly support and I love him
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I had a lot of fun yesterday. I learned a lot..
In one game I went mid Orianna vs Kayle, but even though my score wasn't too bad, Kayle managed to roam a lot and pick up 3 kills very early. Should've warded better in the mid to prevent that. I also really need to work on last-hitting. For some reason I missed a lot of CS..
In a normal game i played afterwards I warded more actively when I went mid Zilean and denied the Ahri roam because of 1 single ward placed strategically.
In the other two games I went support Lulu with with Vayne as ADC and that went a lot better. I like to play passively and poke away at the opponent. I figure they can't engage on us when they're both at 60% HP and we can easily make something happen when the jungle visits.
Maybe I should focus more on playing support better, rather than mid. I am not a great playmaker, and I think it's easier to get away with that as support. I think it gives a better opportunity to learn while still not messing up the game completely if you fail. Support are supposed to make things happen as well though, and not feed their ADC, but at least you have your own ADC to fall back on.
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To be honest, I feel it's very often the ADC falling back on their support, at least until 2 items
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you rely on each other, just like in my little pony
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Do we have another ingame channel that's not for the inhouse games, but regular games?
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LiquidParty, most of us are in here
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On October 10 2013 16:54 The_Unseen wrote:Show nested quote +On October 10 2013 06:47 Sponkz wrote:On October 10 2013 06:42 Alaric wrote:
TIL I'm known as the QQer and I definitely don't have the faintest idea how to lane against Aatrox. I should just default to something that shoves harder than Shen and ignore him next time I get sent top against him in ranked 5s. :x It's okay bro, TIL how badly out of shape i am. Can't even keep consistency for more than one day, before i start fucking up basic shit. Fuck school Poor student :'( Anyway yeah Killerdog you did miss some, even though we were not able to run proper Inhouses due to Riot deactivating Custom games (rly?), everyone went in R5 teams and it was a lot of fun. I spent most of my night with that setup : Sponkz top, Doctorbeat jungle, Spoon mid, Lenwe support and myself ADC, and we had a lot of fun and learnt quite a lot. And even though Sponkz sucks balls in lane, he's a beast at team comps / decision making, it just flowed so naturally *_* In other news, Lenwe is a beastly support and I love him
"Guys I'm like top5 Nunu EUW, i can shit on any jax easy"
*Proceeds to feed jax 1 kill under his tower without minions*
DIAMOND FUCKING PLAYS BITCHES
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On October 10 2013 19:39 Sponkz wrote:Show nested quote +On October 10 2013 16:54 The_Unseen wrote:On October 10 2013 06:47 Sponkz wrote:On October 10 2013 06:42 Alaric wrote:
TIL I'm known as the QQer and I definitely don't have the faintest idea how to lane against Aatrox. I should just default to something that shoves harder than Shen and ignore him next time I get sent top against him in ranked 5s. :x It's okay bro, TIL how badly out of shape i am. Can't even keep consistency for more than one day, before i start fucking up basic shit. Fuck school Poor student :'( Anyway yeah Killerdog you did miss some, even though we were not able to run proper Inhouses due to Riot deactivating Custom games (rly?), everyone went in R5 teams and it was a lot of fun. I spent most of my night with that setup : Sponkz top, Doctorbeat jungle, Spoon mid, Lenwe support and myself ADC, and we had a lot of fun and learnt quite a lot. And even though Sponkz sucks balls in lane, he's a beast at team comps / decision making, it just flowed so naturally *_* In other news, Lenwe is a beastly support and I love him "Guys I'm like top5 Nunu EUW, i can shit on any jax easy" *Proceeds to feed jax 1 kill under his tower without minions* DIAMOND FUCKING PLAYS BITCHES
Huehuehue. Greed is good, remember that motto 
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On October 10 2013 16:50 Slayer91 wrote:Show nested quote +On October 10 2013 07:41 Alaric wrote:On October 10 2013 06:49 Slayer91 wrote:On October 10 2013 06:42 Alaric wrote:
TIL I'm known as the QQer LOL should just pick shit ur good at, dunno why everyone goes full retarded with fotm champs as soon as they go to 5s Yeah, he was pretty bad, only thing he actually managed was his Q, however we fucked up and I had Exhaust over Ignite. Basic rundown of the game was: - he drops to 33% at level 1 because pushing lets me auto the minions a bunch and he didn't even try to avoid my Q->passive auto harass. - hits 2 first, immediatly level W and starts healing like mad. I hit 2 two creeps later, enough that's up to more than half, he proceeds to tank 8-9 minions after I taunted him and still outtrades me because of the huge-ass sustain that I can't cut through, even at level 2. - He hits 3 first, dives me, kills me with Ignite's ticks and loses his passive. And then he snowballed because it's Aatrox. He played mindlessly but his bare right-clicks were enough to outtrade me burning everything. Thing is my top main is supposed Jax or Irelia, and I only played these lanes once, lost pretty horribly after trying to all-in him early (like 3-4) after trying to build a creep advantage, failed because sustain and passive are dumb, then got snowballed on. I asked around several times but never got an answer as to how I'm supposed to play these lanes so playing one of my mains or something else obviously won't change much. Aatrox looks like a champ that places the burden on you to know how to beat him because his brainless case is still super good (still can punish burning Q for no reason but they don't stoop so low), and I'm not really motivated to practice it because it's a boring as heck lane and I don't see him that often (blessed me). So I guess the tl;dr is "How do I lane vs Aatrox as Irelia/Jax?". dunno, always found aatrox pretty easy. he only heals for 60 every 3 hits and that's below half. Once he's above half he can't really heal anymore. Just don't do stupid things like constantly trying to trade when he's low. You just need to win 1 trade and stay on high hp and then zone him from creeps, he's going to keep healing to half at tower but that doesn't matter too much. All-ining the dude with a free ga is dumb. You just need to win a trade so he's around half and you're higher and then you threaten to kill his passive and run again. you just need to decide if you're going to trade-->all-in or else just let him push and farm and wait. You can't half ass things because he has no mana and can heal up. I played irelia vs him, but not jax, but it was super easy. Once you get some levels and armour just E stun W and some autos and Q or and once he's below half you just back off with nearly full hp pop some pots and kill him with ignite and ult from 50% to zero (or pop passive and he's zoned anyway)
Dunno with Irelia I felt like with Hiten down I'd straight up lose trades if I try to attack him to prevent him from healing a bunch when he's below half, so I'd drop him there during a trade, and then until Hiten cd came back up he'd heal a ton and I'd almost be back to 0 when ready to trade again. At then at one point I'd run oom while he laughs.
Maybe I just suck. @_@
So basically I suck it up till first back or 6 or something like that because he's going to lol-E shove the lane for free and I'll farm under tower, then once I get my warden's or tabi or something like that and level 5+, only then I try fighting him, by setting up the all-in then all-ining him if he refuses to get zoned.
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On October 10 2013 19:39 Sponkz wrote:Show nested quote +On October 10 2013 16:54 The_Unseen wrote:On October 10 2013 06:47 Sponkz wrote:On October 10 2013 06:42 Alaric wrote:
TIL I'm known as the QQer and I definitely don't have the faintest idea how to lane against Aatrox. I should just default to something that shoves harder than Shen and ignore him next time I get sent top against him in ranked 5s. :x It's okay bro, TIL how badly out of shape i am. Can't even keep consistency for more than one day, before i start fucking up basic shit. Fuck school Poor student :'( Anyway yeah Killerdog you did miss some, even though we were not able to run proper Inhouses due to Riot deactivating Custom games (rly?), everyone went in R5 teams and it was a lot of fun. I spent most of my night with that setup : Sponkz top, Doctorbeat jungle, Spoon mid, Lenwe support and myself ADC, and we had a lot of fun and learnt quite a lot. And even though Sponkz sucks balls in lane, he's a beast at team comps / decision making, it just flowed so naturally *_* In other news, Lenwe is a beastly support and I love him "Guys I'm like top5 Nunu EUW, i can shit on any jax easy" *Proceeds to feed jax 1 kill under his tower without minions* DIAMOND FUCKING PLAYS BITCHES
I seem to remember it was first blood, too, Nunu vs Jax 2ez
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