[Patch 3.12] (j/k) Jinx General Discussion - Page 81

On October 07 2013 13:24 silencefc wrote:
So someone convince me that Jungle Renekton is a bad idea.

His initial clear is slow but it picks up really fast.
His ganks are pretty strong. Gap Closer + Stun, double Gap Closer if you come in through creeps.
He does fine building tanky anyways.
Good tower dive after level 6.

Kind of hard to apply 50 Fury on a gank though.

Sample replay:
http://www.leaguereplays.com/replays/match/3528145/

On October 07 2013 14:46 gtrsrs wrote:
i think coast has 0% chance of getting knocked out, no matter who they play
they had a bad split but i don't believe they're a 7th place team
we'll see how they do in the NACL but i don't see them doing anything other than a pretty grand sweep of all matches and then 3-0ing in relegations

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On October 07 2013 14:50 Zdrastochye wrote:


Cmon, you have to give them at least more than a 0% chance, anything could happen. Sometimes the worse team beats the better team, maybe someone on Coast will fail hard enough for them to lose. 0% is a dangerous thing to deal with.

On October 07 2013 15:04 gtrsrs wrote:


okay sure, they could get really sick leading up to relegations or someone could quit the team or get wrapped up in girlfriend bs or something, yeah.
but if they play like they have been since the season ended, it's a clean sweep. they're top 4 LCS material right now

On October 07 2013 15:04 gtrsrs wrote:


okay sure, they could get really sick leading up to relegations or someone could quit the team or get wrapped up in girlfriend bs or something, yeah.
but if they play like they have been since the season ended, it's a clean sweep. they're top 4 LCS material right now

On October 07 2013 14:45 Seuss wrote:


Jungle Renekton isn't competitive because:

• If you're following the meta, there are much better options.
  
• If you're going Meteos style, there are much better options.
  
• Why aren't you bullying top lane?

On October 07 2013 15:08 wei2coolman wrote:

Why were they playing so poorly at the end of that split?

On October 07 2013 15:14 Zdrastochye wrote:


Top 4 LCS ain't really saying much.

On October 07 2013 15:16 gtrsrs wrote:


that's not something i have the answer to. this split the overall quality of teams was obviously higher. i'm not sure why they underperformed though.




but it's saying they've enough to survive relegations for sure, isn't it?

On October 07 2013 15:21 overt wrote:
The thing about Coast is that every player tilts. ZionSpartan, NintendudeX, and Mashme can all have glimpses of brilliance but when they get behind in lane they just look...bad. If a challenger team with a really strong early game came in and got early leads I think Coast would really struggle. Sure, the odds are in their favor, but I don't think they even need outside elements to play a factor they could just have one or more roles tilt (as they very often do).

We don't even really know how the LCS teams stack up to all the amateur teams right now. I'm sure the Challenger league will help us get a gauge of which of the three LCS teams are solid and which amateur teams are contenders (kinda sucks that Quantic didn't get a spot in the challenger league but I think I heard they reached challenger a bit too late in ranked 5s).

On October 07 2013 15:16 silencefc wrote:


Because sometimes I just want to play Renekton but we already have a top laner.

Renekton feels like he's tankier & does more damage than J4 midgame.

And champs with flexibility are fun.

On October 07 2013 15:45 Seuss wrote:


Renekton probably feels that way because of your familiarity with the champion. Jarvan and Renekton do similar damage, depending on the scenario, and aren't all that different in terms of tankiness. Where Jarvan completely eclipses Renekton is utility. Renekton's only utility sans-Fury is a 0.75s stun, the animation of which prevents Renekton from taking any other action. With Fury he can double that stun's duration, but doing so is often exclusive with his self-healing or his armor shred. Jarvan, on the other hand, has a multi-target knock-up, a multi-target slow, and his ultimate for crowd control, plus an attack speed aura, reliable multi-target armor shred, and the ability to scout bushes. It's no contest.

If all you want to do is play Renekton then that's fine. If you don't jungle much you'll probably do better on him than on standard junglers simply because you know the champion. Just don't fool yourself into thinking he's somehow better than the top tier picks.

On October 07 2013 14:17 wei2coolman wrote:
What about 5 thresh, throwing their lanterns out? And each one grabbing the other?

On October 07 2013 09:21 iCanada wrote:


Why get Tiamat? Get dat Sweet Trinity force.

^_^

Q like best trinity proc in game. I almost always get SV, and then usually Frozen Heart too.

I usually try to have Shiv+Glacial+Cowl for first real fight. Really depends on game. If you have a ton of damage threats you can do just Shiv and then all tank plank, if you need the threats you can go Shiv+Trinity. I think the really important thing for him lategame though is that W+pure resist so stronk.