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upperbound
Profile Joined September 2011
United States2300 Posts
October 26 2013 01:24 GMT
#6961
Also a diamond+ thread would basically be teut and scip trolling each other all the time. Go head on over to OTGD if you want a taste of the content that would produce.
NovaTheFeared
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States7232 Posts
October 26 2013 01:27 GMT
#6962
Wouldn't hurt to experiment with it though, the idea keeps recurring.
日本語が分かりますか
remedium
Profile Joined July 2011
United States939 Posts
October 26 2013 01:28 GMT
#6963
On October 26 2013 09:56 TheYango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 26 2013 09:45 ProV1 wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
On October 26 2013 09:41 Inschato wrote:
If by cool you mean it would be an epeen contest where no meaningful conversation would take place.


On October 26 2013 09:41 AsmodeusXI wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 26 2013 09:40 ProV1 wrote:
It would be cool if some1 could make a forum where you had to be like at least d5 or something to post. And the admins personally filtered people ig to let them post on that forum. But every1 could read the open forums. Just as an experiment, I wonder what would happen. ol school high elo vent/chat channels but forum style. With a lot of value for lower lvl players.


We've had this discussion before. tl;dr - it's really not going to work. I don't mean to be so blunt, but this line of thought gets gross.



Personally I think if the cap was higher, like at d1, it would just be a place where pro interviews of their thoughts on the game are compiled together. Because the content would be pretty similar without much deviation.

What would you gain from that?

The community is small. There's not some magical cult of high Elo players that can't stand posting among lowbies because fo the idiocy.


Yup.

The vast majority of people here are attempting to improve and, to an extent, are aware of their limitations.

Segregating the (very) small population of TLers who are competent at the game will not help the community we have fostered here.

This forum is, in my opinion, the closest TL has come to a let's-figure-this-out-together feel since the heyday of Brood War.

Restricting posting ability by skill is literally the antithesis of this forum. If we continue to foster an environment that encourages intelligent commentary, pro-scene news, and well-developed theorycraft, we will continue to be great. Our community is eminently skilled at weeding out idiocy on its merits. There is no need to force it.
Stay positive!
obesechicken13
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States10467 Posts
October 26 2013 01:30 GMT
#6964
I personally hated it when TL started highlighting posts from Pro gamers. It'd be like, I'd type up this page long response and get 0 feedback and then some pro would type "lul roach 2 gud 5 u" and get enough praise to derail the thread.
I think in our modern age technology has evolved to become more addictive. The things that don't give us pleasure aren't used as much. Work was never meant to be fun, but doing it makes us happier in the long run.
Carnivorous Sheep
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Baa?21247 Posts
October 26 2013 01:35 GMT
#6965
On October 26 2013 10:28 remedium wrote:

This forum is, in my opinion, the closest TL has come to a let's-figure-this-out-together feel since the heyday of Brood War.



That...is not what the BW days were like lol.
TranslatorBaa!
remedium
Profile Joined July 2011
United States939 Posts
October 26 2013 01:36 GMT
#6966
On October 26 2013 10:35 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 26 2013 10:28 remedium wrote:

This forum is, in my opinion, the closest TL has come to a let's-figure-this-out-together feel since the heyday of Brood War.



That...is not what the BW days were like lol.


Let's not bring facts into this.
Stay positive!
Inschato
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
Canada1349 Posts
October 26 2013 01:38 GMT
#6967
On October 26 2013 10:35 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 26 2013 10:28 remedium wrote:

This forum is, in my opinion, the closest TL has come to a let's-figure-this-out-together feel since the heyday of Brood War.



That...is not what the BW days were like lol.

What the BW days were like.
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remedium
Profile Joined July 2011
United States939 Posts
October 26 2013 01:43 GMT
#6968
On October 26 2013 10:38 Inschato wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 26 2013 10:35 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:
On October 26 2013 10:28 remedium wrote:

This forum is, in my opinion, the closest TL has come to a let's-figure-this-out-together feel since the heyday of Brood War.



That...is not what the BW days were like lol.

What the BW days were like.


Hope for the future.
Stay positive!
TheRabidDeer
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
United States3806 Posts
October 26 2013 01:43 GMT
#6969
On October 26 2013 10:38 Inschato wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 26 2013 10:35 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:
On October 26 2013 10:28 remedium wrote:

This forum is, in my opinion, the closest TL has come to a let's-figure-this-out-together feel since the heyday of Brood War.



That...is not what the BW days were like lol.

What the BW days were like.

What TL is currently like

I do kind of wish LoL branched out from a single thread a bit more though. I go to sleep and have like 20 pages to read in this thread the next day. God forbid I have to work then it is like 50.
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
October 26 2013 01:50 GMT
#6970
On October 26 2013 10:30 obesechicken13 wrote:
I personally hated it when TL started highlighting posts from Pro gamers. It'd be like, I'd type up this page long response and get 0 feedback and then some pro would type "lul roach 2 gud 5 u" and get enough praise to derail the thread.

It's a shitty but understandable solution to the issues that pertained to SC2 Strategy subforum, simply because the posting volume was far too high to be individually moderate-able. Insofar as moderation is practically possible, I don't think we should ever resort to something like that, and as it is now, the TL LoL community has the luxury of being small enough that we don't need to worry about that.
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Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23404 Posts
October 26 2013 01:54 GMT
#6971
On October 26 2013 10:24 upperbound wrote:
Also a diamond+ thread would basically be teut and scip trolling each other all the time. Go head on over to OTGD if you want a taste of the content that would produce.


this already happens real time
chalice
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1945 Posts
October 26 2013 01:57 GMT
#6972
i saw people were comparing doran's blade sustain to long sword+2, but what about doran's shield? you would need to average 1 auto every 2.5 seconds to match the regen and i'm pretty sure i'm not attacking anywhere near that much in real game situations. if something bad happens and you are getting zoned there isn't even really a comparison to make. plus you get a health pot.

i guess it comes down to whether the extra sustain makes up for the difference between 10 ad and -8 damage from autos + 20hp in combat. it's probably not optimal at the highest level of play, but in a low skill level solo queue situation with a random support it definitely feels a lot safer.
upperbound
Profile Joined September 2011
United States2300 Posts
October 26 2013 01:57 GMT
#6973
Maybe we are gonna get some actually juicy support items...

http://forums.na.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?t=3978129&page=4#post42496176
AsmodeusXI
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States15536 Posts
October 26 2013 02:03 GMT
#6974
On October 26 2013 09:51 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 26 2013 09:37 AsmodeusXI wrote:
-polls-


These are pretty loaded polls lol, way too simplistic for questions that are far more complex than you represent :<


I mean, I know. I'm welcome to better questions, but barring the existence of any, I thought those would be interesting.
WriterTL > RL. BNet: Asmodeus#1187 - LoL: DJForeclosure - Steam: asmodeusxi | www.n3rddimension.com
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
October 26 2013 02:06 GMT
#6975
On October 26 2013 10:57 upperbound wrote:
Maybe we are gonna get some actually juicy support items...

http://forums.na.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?t=3978129&page=4#post42496176

I can see this being built on shit like Renekton, and Nasus.
Ult, almost die, put shield on ADC.
liftlift > tsm
Ketara
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States15065 Posts
October 26 2013 02:11 GMT
#6976
I can't.

300 HP and 10 regen for a finished item is crap stats.
http://www.liquidlegends.net/forum/lol-general/502075-patch-61-league-of-legends-general-discussion?page=25#498
LaM
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States1321 Posts
October 26 2013 02:13 GMT
#6977
On October 26 2013 09:56 TheYango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 26 2013 09:45 ProV1 wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
On October 26 2013 09:41 Inschato wrote:
If by cool you mean it would be an epeen contest where no meaningful conversation would take place.


On October 26 2013 09:41 AsmodeusXI wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 26 2013 09:40 ProV1 wrote:
It would be cool if some1 could make a forum where you had to be like at least d5 or something to post. And the admins personally filtered people ig to let them post on that forum. But every1 could read the open forums. Just as an experiment, I wonder what would happen. ol school high elo vent/chat channels but forum style. With a lot of value for lower lvl players.


We've had this discussion before. tl;dr - it's really not going to work. I don't mean to be so blunt, but this line of thought gets gross.



Personally I think if the cap was higher, like at d1, it would just be a place where pro interviews of their thoughts on the game are compiled together. Because the content would be pretty similar without much deviation.

What would you gain from that?

The community is small. There's not some magical cult of high Elo players that can't stand posting among lowbies because fo the idiocy.


Eh. I stopped posting on champs/strategy and just started posting fanboy stuff (opinions on pro scene) because I was tired of arguing about either really basic shit that any decent player would know or getting called out by somebody I find out is Silver 4 and has played 7 games of X champion in there life. And I'm not particularly "high ELO", just mid Diamond. I can't imagine what real high ELO players think during half these discussions.
Anything is Possible
obesechicken13
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States10467 Posts
October 26 2013 02:14 GMT
#6978
On October 26 2013 10:57 chalice wrote:
i saw people were comparing doran's blade sustain to long sword+2, but what about doran's shield? you would need to average 1 auto every 2.5 seconds to match the regen and i'm pretty sure i'm not attacking anywhere near that much in real game situations. if something bad happens and you are getting zoned there isn't even really a comparison to make. plus you get a health pot.

i guess it comes down to whether the extra sustain makes up for the difference between 10 ad and -8 damage from autos + 20hp in combat. it's probably not optimal at the highest level of play, but in a low skill level solo queue situation with a random support it definitely feels a lot safer.

I think it'd be every 5 seconds.
I think in our modern age technology has evolved to become more addictive. The things that don't give us pleasure aren't used as much. Work was never meant to be fun, but doing it makes us happier in the long run.
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
October 26 2013 02:14 GMT
#6979
On October 26 2013 11:11 Ketara wrote:
I can't.

300 HP and 10 regen for a finished item is crap stats.

Depends how much it costs.
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wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
October 26 2013 02:14 GMT
#6980
On October 26 2013 11:11 Ketara wrote:
I can't.

300 HP and 10 regen for a finished item is crap stats.

Depending on price point, could see it in 4 protect 1 comps. Especially if your top lane, and you got your face smashed in pretty hard. Probably more fitting for jungler, the more I think about it.
liftlift > tsm
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