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Gahlo
United States35174 Posts
On October 11 2013 20:08 Alaric wrote: Try ulting a Cait in the back of her team while she nets away. Your team better run fast to reach her before you get 5v1'd. Why would you ult Cupcake? T_T -Vi | ||
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Iblis
904 Posts
Nearly everything ranged has more range than her, as an ADC you before your 3rd item usually you will not be able to fight a tanky champ(need LW or a defensive item to get more silver bullet procs). Her range forces Vayne player to either stay a screen away from potential teamfight location and be too late to deal enough significant damage or run the risk of getting engaged/dived upon by 2 or more tanky champ and with no peel support Vayne will die. I know she can't die 1v1 against one dive, but tanky comp of jungler+top can dispose of vayne without heavy CC Support like Tresh, leona, Janna, alistar(?). I can see 2 strat that she may be used but in a 4 protect 1 Kog'maw is probably better and in a 3 carry glass cannon with CC (top with equivalent of lissandra, kennen, etc) and Ezreal or Caitlyn is probably more solid. There is no reason to play her in soloqueue when you can't trust your mates to either peel for you or not die while you stay out of catching range before teamfight. Unless you like to play her and accept these facts. | ||
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MattBarry
United States4006 Posts
On October 11 2013 16:54 RagequitBM wrote: I think Vayne is extremely slippery. Between stealth, condemn, and botrk, you're god Tristana is more slippery, has 150 more range, and has higher bases plus arguably just as good steroids. AND Tristana is the best turret killing adc in the game. Vayne pales in comparison to Trist lategame. Why the hell does no one pick her | ||
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BlackPaladin
United States9316 Posts
On October 11 2013 20:21 MattBarry wrote: Tristana is more slippery, has 150 more range, and has higher bases plus arguably just as good steroids. AND Tristana is the best turret killing adc in the game. Vayne pales in comparison to Trist lategame. Why the hell does no one pick her Really weak midgame (when midgame counts a lot nowadays). Lots of lane matchups are really iffy for her. | ||
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Shikyo
Finland33997 Posts
Does anyone have the math for this? Her single target burst might still be around the same and this has scary synergy with DFG. Kennen ult no longer applies Marks? WTF. I think they nerfed the wrong thing about Corki. Leona and Yi changes somewhat approved although they trivialize mana even more now. Morgana never played -> better meganerf Morgana? WTF. Better buff Shen. WTF. Tryndamere nerf? .. The Xerath item is pretty interesting. I wonder what those last 2 levels get him o.O It's really powerful even without that as well. All in all the patch mostly makes no sense. Really strange changes all over the place. The remakes seem pretty interesting though. | ||
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Gaslo
Finland951 Posts
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MattBarry
United States4006 Posts
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arb
Noobville17922 Posts
wanted those skins since i issed them the first time | ||
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turdburgler
England6749 Posts
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Slayer91
Ireland23447 Posts
skins that you can buy anytime are low priority for the ocd collector personality | ||
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Anggroth
United Kingdom345 Posts
On October 11 2013 20:36 Shikyo wrote: Charm [ E ] - Added to the tooltip: 'Enemies hit by Charm take 20% more magic damage from Ahri for 4 seconds. Does anyone have the math for this? Her single target burst might still be around the same and this has scary synergy with DFG. Kennen ult no longer applies Marks? WTF. I think they nerfed the wrong thing about Corki. Leona and Yi changes somewhat approved although they trivialize mana even more now. Morgana never played -> better meganerf Morgana? WTF. Better buff Shen. WTF. Tryndamere nerf? .. The Xerath item is pretty interesting. I wonder what those last 2 levels get him o.O It's really powerful even without that as well. All in all the patch mostly makes no sense. Really strange changes all over the place. The remakes seem pretty interesting though. Change Context Above is the context for the changes, Kennen's not on there but I would assume like the other abilities it's a tooltip change and the Mark application is included in the passive's wording. | ||
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Osmoses
Sweden5302 Posts
On October 11 2013 20:36 Shikyo wrote: Charm [ E ] - Added to the tooltip: 'Enemies hit by Charm take 20% more magic damage from Ahri for 4 seconds. Does anyone have the math for this? Her single target burst might still be around the same and this has scary synergy with DFG. Kennen ult no longer applies Marks? WTF. I think they nerfed the wrong thing about Corki. Leona and Yi changes somewhat approved although they trivialize mana even more now. Morgana never played -> better meganerf Morgana? WTF. Better buff Shen. WTF. Tryndamere nerf? .. The Xerath item is pretty interesting. I wonder what those last 2 levels get him o.O It's really powerful even without that as well. All in all the patch mostly makes no sense. Really strange changes all over the place. The remakes seem pretty interesting though. Where did you read the bit about kennen ulti? I only saw they cleaned up his tooltip and increased mark duration by 0.25 secs. The shen thing is not a buff because apparently his taunt hitradius was just nerfed. | ||
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Alaric
France45622 Posts
And Shen is nerfed while Kennen's change is only a tooltip rewording, his passive already states his abilities apply marks. | ||
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JonGalt
Pootie too good!4331 Posts
On October 11 2013 11:18 Chexx wrote: I still think that charm should break once the charmed champion suffers damage from another champion. And fear shouldnt make a champ walk around. Instead just in a small area where he was charmed. The charm suggestion makes sense. I like that idea. Someone charms you, hurting you should logically wake you up. makes sense to me. But fear means you're scared, why would you run around in circles? pick a direction and run like hell! I also feel like the first few pbe updates are crazy off the wall, but by patch time they're much smaller and more refined. It does seem silly to do it before season 4 though. the reworks I get because they have been in the works for a while. I suppose you appease the masses with Ahri, who I agree is easier to balance than her popular assasin friends, and roll out Kassadin, zed, and fizz with season 4. | ||
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sylverfyre
United States8298 Posts
**Sona or Nami and heal away all the poke. | ||
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sylverfyre
United States8298 Posts
On October 11 2013 22:23 JonGalt wrote: The charm suggestion makes sense. I like that idea. Someone charms you, hurting you should logically wake you up. makes sense to me. But fear means you're scared, why would you run around in circles? pick a direction and run like hell! I also feel like the first few pbe updates are crazy off the wall, but by patch time they're much smaller and more refined. It does seem silly to do it before season 4 though. the reworks I get because they have been in the works for a while. I suppose you appease the masses with Ahri, who I agree is easier to balance than her popular assasin friends, and roll out Kassadin, zed, and fizz with season 4. I've always felt that fear could have its RNG removed and also differentiated more from stun by making you walk away from the dude that feared you. Right now it's basically "stun that might randomly be a little better or worse." | ||
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TheLink
Australia2725 Posts
On October 11 2013 22:34 sylverfyre wrote: I've always felt that fear could have its RNG removed and also differentiated more from stun by making you walk away from the dude that feared you. Right now it's basically "stun that might randomly be a little better or worse." Pretty sure Hecarim uses "terror" instead of fear which is they run directly away from you. No real reason the other fears couldn't be the same with some kind of buff/rework for fiddle/nocturne/whoeverelsefearsinthisgame. Fear being concepted as the summoner losing control of his champion is cool and all but its really annoying for all parties currently. | ||
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jcarlsoniv
United States27922 Posts
Certainly makes it interesting, and the turret AI improvement will be very welcome. I'll have to mess around with him a bit and see. | ||
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turdburgler
England6749 Posts
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justiceknight
Singapore5741 Posts
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