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On September 13 2013 06:40 Vonthin wrote:
Quantic playing tomorrow in the ggLA challenger tournament, guess they do have 30s
Oddly happy to play against Quantic. O.o
DrunkScarra @DrunkScarra 39m
But seriously what is next? Are they going to change the national bird from the bald eagle to kimchi? #unacceptable #cabbageisnotabird
Oh god, drunk scarra is one of the best LoLrelated twitters.
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Honestly, so long as what happened to SC2 WCS doesn't happen to NA LCS I think it's fine. This potential problem can easily be circumvented if Riot implements a residency clause in qualifying for LCS.
It was a big problem for SC2 WCS because a good portion of it could be done online meaning Korean pros had basically nothing to lose by participating in NA/EU WCS. If there's a residency clause for qualify it at least ensures that the Korean teams interested in moving over has to really invest and lose out on the large eSports infrastructure in Korea.
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On September 13 2013 06:59 Ryuu314 wrote:
Honestly, so long as what happened to SC2 WCS doesn't happen to NA LCS I think it's fine. This potential problem can easily be circumvented if Riot implements a residency clause in qualifying for LCS.
It was a big problem for SC2 WCS because a good portion of it could be done online meaning Korean pros had basically nothing to lose by participating in NA/EU WCS.
Please, chanting EU for MVP is one of the most glorious things ever.
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Riot is a way smarter and better company than Blizzard and they know what the fans want to see. ie. TSM vs CLG.
They wouldn't let the "Faceless Korean" problem happen here. Nothing more to it.
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I personally more ok with the Quantic lineup coming over to NA LCS because Locodoco and Woong have a long and storied history on NA servers. They have a decently sized fan (and anti-fan) base in NA plus they were among the front runners of NA LoL prior to Korea developing their LoL scene. If it was say, CTU or Jin Air coming over to NA LCS I'd be more salty since those guys really don't have much if any history as NA players.
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made a visit to reddit and quickly regretted the decision. oh boy.
as if more competition and strategy variance isn't good.
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A lot of people, myself included, are wary of what happened to SC2 WCS happening to League LCS. While the quality of games may increase, it's ultimately not good for the scene, especially from a fan/spectator perspective. It's less exciting to the average League player/spectator to root for a bunch of Koreans versus another bunch of Koreans. There are a lot of factors that caused SC2 and the WCS's failure to really pick up the way people wanted it to, but the "faceless Korean" problem was definitely part of it (at least in the West).
Managed properly, however, this could be amazing for the LoL scene worldwide.
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On September 13 2013 07:58 Ryuu314 wrote:
A lot of people, myself included, are wary of what happened to SC2 WCS happening to League LCS. While the quality of games may increase, it's ultimately not good for the scene, especially from a fan/spectator perspective. It's less exciting to the average League player/spectator to root for a bunch of Koreans versus another bunch of Koreans. There are a lot of factors that caused SC2 and the WCS's failure to really pick up the way people wanted it to, but the "faceless Korean" problem was definitely part of it (at least in the West).
Managed properly, however, this could be amazing for the LoL scene worldwide.
Provided the respective regional scenes are not crowded out, yes. A few teams, yes, but too many, no.
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I don't know what to think about this really. On the one hand, the best players should be able to qualify for the NA LCS so long as they reside in the United States. On the other hand, if it becomes common occurrence for Korean teams to move to NA/EU to compete in LCS then it will most definitely damage the respective scenes.
A good comparison for those that follow football is the English Premier League and the English national team. The EPL in the last dozen years has had a huge influx of foreign talent largely because of the wealth of the league. Consequently (this is up for debate) the English national side has become weaker and weaker because English talents have not had the opportunities to play and train for the best clubs anymore. It is not uncommon for teams like Chelsea and Arsenal to field 0 English players in their starting line up. Thus, you can see, even for a hugely wealthy, established scene like football in England, importing talent can hinder the progress of young players from the home nation. No doubt the effects will be even stronger in a less established scene like e-sports (as can be seen in sc2).
So, it's a difficult dilemma. Personally I think it's best to wait and see what happens. Since you have to reside in the LCS nation it's probably a big step for many Korean players, not to mention the League scene in Korea is more lucrative I feel like then sc2 for example, and thus less players may be inclined to make that step. Ultimately though, if things get out of hand I think steps should be taken to limit foreign talents from flooding the LCS (not just Koreans). I'd rather develop the NA scene so that future gamers can make a career out of League then watch the highest level of competition in NA. After all, I can always watch OGN.
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I wish if koreans are at least coming over, they are proficient enough in english to answer interview questions in proficient english without the need of a translator. I mean nowadays playing LoL fulltime is a job, and I wish people would be at least somewhat professional. You're being paid to work in a foreign country, respect their language and the culture. Also, you're an entertainer, and people watching LoL want a show. That show gets less entertaining when u don't know wtf people are saying, and the translator puts like no emotion into translations.
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On September 13 2013 09:13 ProV1 wrote:
I wish if koreans are at least coming over, they are proficient enough in english to answer interview questions in proficient english without the need of a translator. I mean nowadays playing LoL fulltime is a job, and I wish people would be at least somewhat professional. You're being paid to work in a foreign country, respect their language and the culture. Also, you're an entertainer, and people watching LoL want a show. That show gets less entertaining when u don't know wtf people are saying, and the translator puts like no emotion into translations.
No one in Dig, CLG, or EG speaks Korean, just saying.
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On September 13 2013 09:17 wei2coolman wrote:Show nested quote +On September 13 2013 09:13 ProV1 wrote:
I wish if koreans are at least coming over, they are proficient enough in english to answer interview questions in proficient english without the need of a translator. I mean nowadays playing LoL fulltime is a job, and I wish people would be at least somewhat professional. You're being paid to work in a foreign country, respect their language and the culture. Also, you're an entertainer, and people watching LoL want a show. That show gets less entertaining when u don't know wtf people are saying, and the translator puts like no emotion into translations. No one in Dig, CLG, or EG speaks Korean, just saying.
They were invited by OGN to come play in their league. No1 invited the koreans over, and gave them direct seeds.
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On September 13 2013 07:23 Ryuu314 wrote:
I personally more ok with the Quantic lineup coming over to NA LCS because Locodoco and Woong have a long and storied history on NA servers. They have a decently sized fan (and anti-fan) base in NA plus they were among the front runners of NA LoL prior to Korea developing their LoL scene. If it was say, CTU or Jin Air coming over to NA LCS I'd be more salty since those guys really don't have much if any history as NA players.
highly doubt you'd see them teams come over as their sponsors are only known domestically.
i think the team with the biggest chance of moving over is team alienware. alienware is a global brand and they haven't been able to break through into champions so far.
also wouldn't shock me if bischu would be part of those plans.
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Quantic is the team we deserve. People gonna hate 'em but lets face it we're going to get screwed here in NA if the pro teams never step up.
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Koreans this, Koreans that....
Where's the locodoco hype train!?
I am ecstatic that he's back in NA.
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Hmm...I'll be interested to see how this develops. This sort of worries me though since Curse is on the chopping block. I wanted them to play a bad NA team, not the best ones because it's a better option than playing the Korean teams.
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More quality of teams in NA LCS means the level of play will be better and the other teams will be better because of it. That's ideal anyway, let's see if NA teams can get off their ass for once and push themselves.
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