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On September 14 2013 09:34 Seuss wrote:Show nested quote +On September 14 2013 09:23 Itsmedudeman wrote:On September 14 2013 09:21 Seuss wrote: Right now Quantic is reminding me of a guild that transferred to my server in WoW because there was essentially no high-tier raiding competition, and then exploded because it turned out they were actually worse than the rest of us.
Not saying Quantic is actually that bad, but for all the hype about Korean overlords they're doing pretty bad, handicap or no.
Still don't envy Prime at all though. That level 21. How can they turn out to be worse than you guys if you guys couldn't even match them in progress before then? Apparently all the good guild members stayed behind. Makes sense. The people that were actually good wouldn't want to run from competition. The goal of that guild was to remain mediocre, not improve their world ranking.
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On September 14 2013 09:47 Amethyst21 wrote: I really bet Quantic wish they didn't derail their hype in 6 hours.
If you wanted to build hype - advertise a showmatch when everyone is level 30 and find a team to play. Getting demolished (runes or no) damages their image, right off the bat.
Doesn't matter. Even if they were level 30s with runes I think they will still have trouble winning against Coast and Velocity at this point. Loco is just plain bad.
+ Show Spoiler +inb4 they intentionally threw it to throw the NA fanbase off guard.
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So much hype for these games and then...just lol
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I noticed that Quantic's team was always 100g behind right when the game starts.
I'm guess Gunza doesn't get Wealth Masteries and the game rounds up?
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On September 14 2013 09:54 onlywonderboy wrote: So much hype for these games and then...just lol
to be fair the account level issue was not revealed until the final moments.
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On September 14 2013 07:08 SagaZ wrote: yeah, they won't get special treatement just because they're korean. As far as riot is concerned they are a random team so no free ip/rp and sharing account is against tos so yeah it has nothing to do with that, it has to do with the fact that this is a fucking tournament, ergo should be ran in the tournament realm. LIKE IT SHOULD BE.
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I don't think small time online tournaments have ever been run on the tournament realm, even ESL which is arguably the biggest company(I'm guessing) still doing online doesn't get tournament realm access.
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On September 14 2013 11:37 Slusher wrote: I don't think small time online tournaments have ever been run on the tournament realm, even ESL which is arguably the biggest company(I'm guessing) still doing online doesn't get tournament realm access. Which is fucking silly as hell. As long as the organization is legit, I don't see why Riot doesn't just toss out tourney realm keys.
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eh, i assume thought that quantic have splashed rp on boosts etc for the new players as to allow them to get their runes etc faster?
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The runes/masteries card is being overplayed here, they would have lost anyway seeing how they played mid to lategame. But it's a completely new team so of course they're not just gonna stomp bottom LCS teams right away, plus they have Woong who's been out of the circuit for ages and Loco who was focusing on Hearthstone for the last month or so. But they have plenty of time to get their shit together until the Promotion/Relegation.
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On September 14 2013 11:32 wei2coolman wrote:Show nested quote +On September 14 2013 07:08 SagaZ wrote: yeah, they won't get special treatement just because they're korean. As far as riot is concerned they are a random team so no free ip/rp and sharing account is against tos so yeah it has nothing to do with that, it has to do with the fact that this is a fucking tournament, ergo should be ran in the tournament realm. LIKE IT SHOULD BE. It is a third party tournament with US teams only, no chance they're bringing the tournament realm... do they even have that up still? with the no cross region tournaments age
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People are giving Prime a lot of shit (even calling him the weak link), but I think that was more just due the runes/masteries issue significantly delaying his early game presence. I followed MiG Blitz through OGN and NLB and he was definitely the standout player along with WonSuck.
If anything, I think Apple and Loco will be the liabilities on this team. Apple in particular didn't do a whole lot on Blitz and well... we all know about Loco.
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People seriously underestimate the huge disadvantage playing on a LEVEL 20 ACCOUNT puts you at such a high level of play. You are so much weaker that your lanes "automatically" start to snowball against you, which meant they were going to kind of lose by default. They probably realized this, and played sloppy as a result or decided to take stupid risks because they knew they couldn't win by playing safe. You can't even cs properly under tower with level 20 runes and masteries, and you get absolutely smashed in standard trades.
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On September 14 2013 11:42 wei2coolman wrote:Show nested quote +On September 14 2013 11:37 Slusher wrote: I don't think small time online tournaments have ever been run on the tournament realm, even ESL which is arguably the biggest company(I'm guessing) still doing online doesn't get tournament realm access. Which is fucking silly as hell. As long as the organization is legit, I don't see why Riot doesn't just toss out tourney realm keys.
There is probably a policy to keep amateur players on the live server. Why would groups of amateur teams play live solo Q/ranked5s if they could just have tourney realm access (with its unlocked accounts) for "tournaments" every day?
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On September 14 2013 23:27 DuncanMonroe wrote: People seriously underestimate the huge disadvantage playing on a LEVEL 20 ACCOUNT puts you at such a high level of play. You are so much weaker that your lanes "automatically" start to snowball against you, which meant they were going to kind of lose by default. They probably realized this, and played sloppy as a result or decided to take stupid risks because they knew they couldn't win by playing safe. You can't even cs properly under tower with level 20 runes and masteries, and you get absolutely smashed in standard trades. I think a big part of it is also, not being able to get away with things you used to be able to get away with.
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Yeah, most of your early game decision making is simply flawed. You are used to specific timings in specific matchups where you have kill windows or windows of dominance, or general ideas about who wins which trade with this and that cooldown. Now it's just all out of balance and a lot of your usual skill won't really be applicable anymore. Jungle routes are very much off time, too. It's just a very unfortunate situation to be in and the basis that we can judge Quantic's level of play on is the same as yesterday before the game.
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On September 14 2013 09:49 Sufficiency wrote:Show nested quote +On September 14 2013 09:47 Amethyst21 wrote: I really bet Quantic wish they didn't derail their hype in 6 hours.
If you wanted to build hype - advertise a showmatch when everyone is level 30 and find a team to play. Getting demolished (runes or no) damages their image, right off the bat. Doesn't matter. Even if they were level 30s with runes I think they will still have trouble winning against Coast and Velocity at this point. Loco is just plain bad. Is it... still Earth? 2013? Are we talking about League of Legends? What am I missing?!
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On September 15 2013 03:11 Volband wrote:Show nested quote +On September 14 2013 09:49 Sufficiency wrote:On September 14 2013 09:47 Amethyst21 wrote: I really bet Quantic wish they didn't derail their hype in 6 hours.
If you wanted to build hype - advertise a showmatch when everyone is level 30 and find a team to play. Getting demolished (runes or no) damages their image, right off the bat. Doesn't matter. Even if they were level 30s with runes I think they will still have trouble winning against Coast and Velocity at this point. Loco is just plain bad. Is it... still Earth? 2013? Are we talking about League of Legends? What am I missing?!
At many points in Velocity vs Quantic, the two side were either even on gold or Quantic was only slightly behind... yet Quantic gets caught and lose teamfights anyway.
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I don't want to make excuses for Quantic but maybe they didn't try as hard cause they were expecting to use lvl 30 accounts then SURPRISE threw them off their game.
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