Makes sense. The people that were actually good wouldn't want to run from competition. The goal of that guild was to remain mediocre, not improve their world ranking.

Sufficiency

Canada23833 Posts

September 14 2013 00:49 GMT

#362

On September 14 2013 09:47 Amethyst21 wrote:
I really bet Quantic wish they didn't derail their hype in 6 hours.

If you wanted to build hype - advertise a showmatch when everyone is level 30 and find a team to play. Getting demolished (runes or no) damages their image, right off the bat.

Doesn't matter. Even if they were level 30s with runes I think they will still have trouble winning against Coast and Velocity at this point. Loco is just plain bad.

+ Show Spoiler +

inb4 they intentionally threw it to throw the NA fanbase off guard.

onlywonderboy

United States23745 Posts

September 14 2013 00:54 GMT

#363

So much hype for these games and then...just lol

Itsmedudeman

United States19229 Posts

September 14 2013 01:02 GMT

#364

http://www.lolking.net/summoner/na/47503593#masteries

Quite a sad mastery page tbh. Typically if you're level 21 it doesn't matter AS much but that's a lot of shit lost in the mastery tree. Don't think it excuses their play though against the bottom 2 of the LCS.

silencefc

United States875 Posts

September 14 2013 01:24 GMT

#365

I noticed that Quantic's team was always 100g behind right when the game starts.

I'm guess Gunza doesn't get Wealth Masteries and the game rounds up?

Slusher

United States19143 Posts

September 14 2013 01:40 GMT

#366

On September 14 2013 09:54 onlywonderboy wrote:
So much hype for these games and then...just lol

to be fair the account level issue was not revealed until the final moments.

wei2coolman

United States60033 Posts

September 14 2013 02:32 GMT

#367

On September 14 2013 07:08 SagaZ wrote:
yeah, they won't get special treatement just because they're korean. As far as riot is concerned they are a random team so no free ip/rp and sharing account is against tos so yeah

it has nothing to do with that, it has to do with the fact that this is a fucking tournament, ergo should be ran in the tournament realm. LIKE IT SHOULD BE.

Slusher

United States19143 Posts

September 14 2013 02:37 GMT

#368

I don't think small time online tournaments have ever been run on the tournament realm, even ESL which is arguably the biggest company(I'm guessing) still doing online doesn't get tournament realm access.

wei2coolman

United States60033 Posts

September 14 2013 02:42 GMT

#369

On September 14 2013 11:37 Slusher wrote:
I don't think small time online tournaments have ever been run on the tournament realm, even ESL which is arguably the biggest company(I'm guessing) still doing online doesn't get tournament realm access.

Which is fucking silly as hell. As long as the organization is legit, I don't see why Riot doesn't just toss out tourney realm keys.

GTR

51500 Posts

September 14 2013 02:44 GMT

#370

eh, i assume thought that quantic have splashed rp on boosts etc for the new players as to allow them to get their runes etc faster?

Dan HH

Romania9137 Posts

September 14 2013 03:09 GMT

#371

The runes/masteries card is being overplayed here, they would have lost anyway seeing how they played mid to lategame. But it's a completely new team so of course they're not just gonna stomp bottom LCS teams right away, plus they have Woong who's been out of the circuit for ages and Loco who was focusing on Hearthstone for the last month or so. But they have plenty of time to get their shit together until the Promotion/Relegation.

SagaZ

France3460 Posts

September 14 2013 07:31 GMT

#372

On September 14 2013 11:32 wei2coolman wrote:

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it has nothing to do with that, it has to do with the fact that this is a fucking tournament, ergo should be ran in the tournament realm. LIKE IT SHOULD BE.

It is a third party tournament with US teams only, no chance they're bringing the tournament realm... do they even have that up still? with the no cross region tournaments age

CannonMinion

2 Posts

September 14 2013 13:54 GMT

#373

People are giving Prime a lot of shit (even calling him the weak link), but I think that was more just due the runes/masteries issue significantly delaying his early game presence. I followed MiG Blitz through OGN and NLB and he was definitely the standout player along with WonSuck.

If anything, I think Apple and Loco will be the liabilities on this team. Apple in particular didn't do a whole lot on Blitz and well... we all know about Loco.

DuncanMonroe

United States6 Posts

September 14 2013 14:27 GMT

#374

People seriously underestimate the huge disadvantage playing on a LEVEL 20 ACCOUNT puts you at such a high level of play. You are so much weaker that your lanes "automatically" start to snowball against you, which meant they were going to kind of lose by default. They probably realized this, and played sloppy as a result or decided to take stupid risks because they knew they couldn't win by playing safe. You can't even cs properly under tower with level 20 runes and masteries, and you get absolutely smashed in standard trades.

remedium

United States939 Posts

September 14 2013 15:54 GMT

#375

On September 14 2013 11:42 wei2coolman wrote:

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Which is fucking silly as hell. As long as the organization is legit, I don't see why Riot doesn't just toss out tourney realm keys.

There is probably a policy to keep amateur players on the live server. Why would groups of amateur teams play live solo Q/ranked5s if they could just have tourney realm access (with its unlocked accounts) for "tournaments" every day?

wei2coolman

United States60033 Posts

September 14 2013 16:33 GMT

#376

On September 14 2013 23:27 DuncanMonroe wrote:
People seriously underestimate the huge disadvantage playing on a LEVEL 20 ACCOUNT puts you at such a high level of play. You are so much weaker that your lanes "automatically" start to snowball against you, which meant they were going to kind of lose by default. They probably realized this, and played sloppy as a result or decided to take stupid risks because they knew they couldn't win by playing safe. You can't even cs properly under tower with level 20 runes and masteries, and you get absolutely smashed in standard trades.

I think a big part of it is also, not being able to get away with things you used to be able to get away with.

UmberBane

Germany5450 Posts

September 14 2013 16:41 GMT

#377

Yeah, most of your early game decision making is simply flawed. You are used to specific timings in specific matchups where you have kill windows or windows of dominance, or general ideas about who wins which trade with this and that cooldown. Now it's just all out of balance and a lot of your usual skill won't really be applicable anymore. Jungle routes are very much off time, too. It's just a very unfortunate situation to be in and the basis that we can judge Quantic's level of play on is the same as yesterday before the game.

Volband

Hungary6034 Posts

September 14 2013 18:11 GMT

#378

On September 14 2013 09:49 Sufficiency wrote:

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Doesn't matter. Even if they were level 30s with runes I think they will still have trouble winning against Coast and Velocity at this point. Loco is just plain bad.

Is it... still Earth? 2013? Are we talking about League of Legends? What am I missing?!

Sufficiency

Canada23833 Posts

September 14 2013 19:14 GMT

#379

On September 15 2013 03:11 Volband wrote:

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Is it... still Earth? 2013? Are we talking about League of Legends? What am I missing?!

At many points in Velocity vs Quantic, the two side were either even on gold or Quantic was only slightly behind... yet Quantic gets caught and lose teamfights anyway.

silencefc

United States875 Posts

September 14 2013 19:17 GMT

#380

I don't want to make excuses for Quantic but maybe they didn't try as hard cause they were expecting to use lvl 30 accounts then SURPRISE threw them off their game.