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JazzVortical
Profile Joined July 2013
Australia1825 Posts
September 04 2013 07:53 GMT
#101
A nice little patch. I actually really like that Zac change. Seems like a fairly nuanced way to go about reducing his power. I hope it works out.

He still does too much damage though
UmberBane
Profile Joined March 2013
Germany5450 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-04 07:55:41
September 04 2013 07:55 GMT
#102
On September 04 2013 16:51 Kupon3ss wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 04 2013 16:42 patochaos wrote:
on other news, LATAM server is like 2 leagues below NA, at least in solo queue.

Got a friend who sucks, plays bad, rages all the time, ragequits games, cant cs. In NA he was bronze 5
moves to LATAM, gets to silver 2, most likely will hit gold

Other friend, plays OK, but rages constantly, got banned like 3-4 times. Max is silver 1
Moves to LATAM, currently Plat 4

Im about to hit GOLD 2, once I get back to my country I'll move there and hit challenger for sure.


so that's like 4 leagues below cn/kr?


Not sure about China but KR most definitely

Sponkz
Profile Joined May 2011
Denmark4564 Posts
September 04 2013 07:56 GMT
#103
I wonder if Thresh will be played less, now that you can cleanse his Q. Zac changes seems fair, as does fiora (i think this change is really awesome). Galio changes are nice, but it doesn't really fix his issues regarding viability. Might wanna try out some galio mid (AP carry'ish) or top (full utility tank, kinda like Shen).
hi
Wrag
Profile Joined February 2012
France124 Posts
September 04 2013 08:01 GMT
#104
On September 04 2013 16:56 Sponkz wrote:
I wonder if Thresh will be played less, now that you can cleanse his Q. Zac changes seems fair, as does fiora (i think this change is really awesome). Galio changes are nice, but it doesn't really fix his issues regarding viability. Might wanna try out some galio mid (AP carry'ish) or top (full utility tank, kinda like Shen).


You could already cleanse Q (the stun/displacement part), the change makes it so that thresh can't come in when you do. Don't think it will change his playrate much if at all.
Vanka
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
China1336 Posts
September 04 2013 08:07 GMT
#105
On September 04 2013 16:51 Kupon3ss wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 04 2013 16:42 patochaos wrote:
on other news, LATAM server is like 2 leagues below NA, at least in solo queue.

Got a friend who sucks, plays bad, rages all the time, ragequits games, cant cs. In NA he was bronze 5
moves to LATAM, gets to silver 2, most likely will hit gold

Other friend, plays OK, but rages constantly, got banned like 3-4 times. Max is silver 1
Moves to LATAM, currently Plat 4

Im about to hit GOLD 2, once I get back to my country I'll move there and hit challenger for sure.


so that's like 4 leagues below cn/kr?


The chinese servers are so diluted that the majority of them are NA level or worse. The one I play on, definately so. I have heard the main server is tougher, but I can't confirm that firsthand.
SnK-Arcbound
Profile Joined March 2005
United States4423 Posts
September 04 2013 08:07 GMT
#106
Thresh still has the second best shield in the game (below lux, which effectively makes it the best shield in the game). And the best mechanic in the game now that they introduced the save hook.
AsnSensation
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany24009 Posts
September 04 2013 08:12 GMT
#107
It's a pretty significant change which doesn't allow thresh to get in flay range anymore. Not like it matters though since everyone except for a few korean Marksmen has become a Barrier pussy regardless of enemy teamcomposition (even Doublelift who used to be the cleanse+qss god only takes barrier now). Not that Thresh justifies taking cleanse though but certain things like Ashe or Fiddle kinda do but you never see pros get out of their barrier-comfortzone.
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-04 08:15:16
September 04 2013 08:13 GMT
#108
On September 04 2013 16:43 IMoperator wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 04 2013 16:33 Cheap0 wrote:
On September 04 2013 14:09 IMoperator wrote:
guys this is going to sound stupid/immature but I literally can't stop raging at this game. Like I've been punished multiple times by the tribunal (no permas yet, somehow got 2 two-week bans on my main account instead of a perma) but nothing helps. it's just how I am I guess


I think the next one after the 2 two-week bans is the permaban.

I've heard that a lot of people get permabanned after one 2 week ban, so I thought I was lucky to get another chance. I havent been playing ranked on that account because Im afraid of that getting perma'd lol.

Could just try unbinding chat or something.

Cleanse is pretty situational now. The amount barrier can block is almost always better than the cleanse.
liftlift > tsm
JazzVortical
Profile Joined July 2013
Australia1825 Posts
September 04 2013 08:16 GMT
#109
On September 04 2013 17:01 Wrag wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 04 2013 16:56 Sponkz wrote:
I wonder if Thresh will be played less, now that you can cleanse his Q. Zac changes seems fair, as does fiora (i think this change is really awesome). Galio changes are nice, but it doesn't really fix his issues regarding viability. Might wanna try out some galio mid (AP carry'ish) or top (full utility tank, kinda like Shen).


You could already cleanse Q (the stun/displacement part), the change makes it so that thresh can't come in when you do. Don't think it will change his playrate much if at all.


Thresh will never not be played. He has literally every single thing a support would want bar a heal.
Sponkz
Profile Joined May 2011
Denmark4564 Posts
September 04 2013 08:17 GMT
#110
On September 04 2013 17:12 AsnSensation wrote:
It's a pretty significant change which doesn't allow thresh to get in flay range anymore. Not like it matters though since everyone except for a few korean Marksmen has become a Barrier pussy regardless of enemy teamcomposition (even Doublelift who used to be the cleanse+qss god only takes barrier now). Not that Thresh justifies taking cleanse though but certain things like Ashe or Fiddle kinda do but you never see pros get out of their barrier-comfortzone.




But giving the fact that many team comps with thresh including, often has additional heavy CC, just makes me wonder if the "all time barrier, never not barrier" sort of thing will change abit. Getting boring always to see flash/barrier marksman
hi
CardG
Profile Joined March 2011
France131 Posts
September 04 2013 08:18 GMT
#111
I haven't read the topic yet, but did the new summer skins came with the patch?
DragoonTT
Profile Joined April 2012
3398 Posts
September 04 2013 08:20 GMT
#112
Never realised how incredibly stacked the odds for getting a blob were in favour of Zac. Now I can finally stop wondering why those annoying little bloblets never explode when I'm near, but always heal the big guy when he's further away than me.

Seriously, who thought it was a good idea to base all counterplay against an infite sustain champion on this stomp-the-blob mechanic, and then tilt it so heavily in his favour that counterplay is basically impossible anyway?

Great change, this might have massive impact in the top lane, make Zac less unstoppable and delay his Spirit Visage and lategame scaling by a decent chunk.
Amui
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada10567 Posts
September 04 2013 08:31 GMT
#113
On September 04 2013 17:17 Sponkz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 04 2013 17:12 AsnSensation wrote:
It's a pretty significant change which doesn't allow thresh to get in flay range anymore. Not like it matters though since everyone except for a few korean Marksmen has become a Barrier pussy regardless of enemy teamcomposition (even Doublelift who used to be the cleanse+qss god only takes barrier now). Not that Thresh justifies taking cleanse though but certain things like Ashe or Fiddle kinda do but you never see pros get out of their barrier-comfortzone.




But giving the fact that many team comps with thresh including, often has additional heavy CC, just makes me wonder if the "all time barrier, never not barrier" sort of thing will change abit. Getting boring always to see flash/barrier marksman


Well you also have to look at what they have to deal with. The prevalence of stuff like J4/eve/elise/LS jungle, zac top and zed/ahri being top tier picks. Zed and ahri will blow you up with a singe rotation, cleanse or not on the ignite damage. Unless there's a change in the other picks, barrier will still be the premier non-flash summoner on ADC's(fiddle excepted), simply because there's very little way to outplay the damage through cleanse, it's better just to be able to eat more of it.
Porouscloud - NA LoL
Sponkz
Profile Joined May 2011
Denmark4564 Posts
September 04 2013 08:38 GMT
#114
Yeah it's true that barrier will be a life-saver. Maybe it will give birth to QSS/Mercurial? At least i'm hoping for more versatility :D
hi
scFoX
Profile Joined September 2011
France454 Posts
September 04 2013 08:48 GMT
#115
On September 04 2013 17:31 Amui wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 04 2013 17:17 Sponkz wrote:
On September 04 2013 17:12 AsnSensation wrote:
It's a pretty significant change which doesn't allow thresh to get in flay range anymore. Not like it matters though since everyone except for a few korean Marksmen has become a Barrier pussy regardless of enemy teamcomposition (even Doublelift who used to be the cleanse+qss god only takes barrier now). Not that Thresh justifies taking cleanse though but certain things like Ashe or Fiddle kinda do but you never see pros get out of their barrier-comfortzone.




But giving the fact that many team comps with thresh including, often has additional heavy CC, just makes me wonder if the "all time barrier, never not barrier" sort of thing will change abit. Getting boring always to see flash/barrier marksman


Well you also have to look at what they have to deal with. The prevalence of stuff like J4/eve/elise/LS jungle, zac top and zed/ahri being top tier picks. Zed and ahri will blow you up with a singe rotation, cleanse or not on the ignite damage. Unless there's a change in the other picks, barrier will still be the premier non-flash summoner on ADC's(fiddle excepted), simply because there's very little way to outplay the damage through cleanse, it's better just to be able to eat more of it.


I guess another reason is that some of these CC champs (Jarvan, Zac, Aatrox) use knockups which aren't at all affected by cleanse. It's one thing to cleanse a fear or a charm (or even a taunt), but when the other team's gap closers are associated with knockups, there's not much you can do if you get caught into them other than take the damage.
SagaZ
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
France3460 Posts
September 04 2013 08:57 GMT
#116
So what's this snopeeh stream with 3k viewers featuring hotshot lying on a bed.
Be nice, buy wards and don't feed double buff.
TheLink
Profile Joined January 2011
Australia2725 Posts
September 04 2013 09:11 GMT
#117
On September 04 2013 17:57 SagaZ wrote:
So what's this snopeeh stream with 3k viewers featuring hotshot lying on a bed.


Stephen Ellis ‏@snoopeh 1h
Tried to find a girl in Vancouver.. I ended up with @CLG_HotshotGG

And now Snoopeh and Hotshot are lying in bed together watching some girl Thresh cosplaying on stream. Funniest and weirdest thing I've seen in ages.
Only the weak link is strong enough to break the chain.
AsnSensation
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany24009 Posts
September 04 2013 09:12 GMT
#118
Bob=hotshot confirmed on snoopehs stream
Kouda
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States2205 Posts
September 04 2013 09:17 GMT
#119
I'm pretty sure that Bob is "EG AD OR FEED". Travis said 99 percent that Bob was a caster for the Challenger Scene. The only regular commentators for like GGLA and MCS and other small events are Optimus Tom, Malfusx and EG AD. Both Malfusx and Tom weren't at Pax. And according to twitter, EGAD was at pax trying to network with rioters and what not. .. I just waisted thirty minutes of my life.
Disengaged
Profile Joined July 2010
United States6994 Posts
September 04 2013 09:21 GMT
#120
On September 04 2013 16:56 Sponkz wrote:
I wonder if Thresh will be played less, now that you can cleanse his Q. Zac changes seems fair, as does fiora (i think this change is really awesome). Galio changes are nice, but it doesn't really fix his issues regarding viability. Might wanna try out some galio mid (AP carry'ish) or top (full utility tank, kinda like Shen).


Nah. The change won't mean much. Thresh is one of the best supports out there and I don't see the change making Thresh being played less.
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