EPTHe still does too much damage though
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JazzVortical
Australia1825 Posts
He still does too much damage though | ||
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UmberBane
Germany5450 Posts
Not sure about China but KR most definitely | ||
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Sponkz
Denmark4564 Posts
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Wrag
France124 Posts
On September 04 2013 16:56 Sponkz wrote: I wonder if Thresh will be played less, now that you can cleanse his Q. Zac changes seems fair, as does fiora (i think this change is really awesome). Galio changes are nice, but it doesn't really fix his issues regarding viability. Might wanna try out some galio mid (AP carry'ish) or top (full utility tank, kinda like Shen). You could already cleanse Q (the stun/displacement part), the change makes it so that thresh can't come in when you do. Don't think it will change his playrate much if at all. | ||
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Vanka
China1336 Posts
The chinese servers are so diluted that the majority of them are NA level or worse. The one I play on, definately so. I have heard the main server is tougher, but I can't confirm that firsthand. | ||
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SnK-Arcbound
United States4423 Posts
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AsnSensation
Germany24009 Posts
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wei2coolman
United States60033 Posts
On September 04 2013 16:43 IMoperator wrote: I've heard that a lot of people get permabanned after one 2 week ban, so I thought I was lucky to get another chance. I havent been playing ranked on that account because Im afraid of that getting perma'd lol. Could just try unbinding chat or something. Cleanse is pretty situational now. The amount barrier can block is almost always better than the cleanse. | ||
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JazzVortical
Australia1825 Posts
On September 04 2013 17:01 Wrag wrote: You could already cleanse Q (the stun/displacement part), the change makes it so that thresh can't come in when you do. Don't think it will change his playrate much if at all. Thresh will never not be played. He has literally every single thing a support would want bar a heal. | ||
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Sponkz
Denmark4564 Posts
On September 04 2013 17:12 AsnSensation wrote: It's a pretty significant change which doesn't allow thresh to get in flay range anymore. Not like it matters though since everyone except for a few korean Marksmen has become a Barrier pussy regardless of enemy teamcomposition (even Doublelift who used to be the cleanse+qss god only takes barrier now). Not that Thresh justifies taking cleanse though but certain things like Ashe or Fiddle kinda do but you never see pros get out of their barrier-comfortzone. But giving the fact that many team comps with thresh including, often has additional heavy CC, just makes me wonder if the "all time barrier, never not barrier" sort of thing will change abit. Getting boring always to see flash/barrier marksman  | ||
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CardG
France131 Posts
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DragoonTT
3398 Posts
Seriously, who thought it was a good idea to base all counterplay against an infite sustain champion on this stomp-the-blob mechanic, and then tilt it so heavily in his favour that counterplay is basically impossible anyway? Great change, this might have massive impact in the top lane, make Zac less unstoppable and delay his Spirit Visage and lategame scaling by a decent chunk. | ||
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Amui
Canada10567 Posts
On September 04 2013 17:17 Sponkz wrote: But giving the fact that many team comps with thresh including, often has additional heavy CC, just makes me wonder if the "all time barrier, never not barrier" sort of thing will change abit. Getting boring always to see flash/barrier marksman Well you also have to look at what they have to deal with. The prevalence of stuff like J4/eve/elise/LS jungle, zac top and zed/ahri being top tier picks. Zed and ahri will blow you up with a singe rotation, cleanse or not on the ignite damage. Unless there's a change in the other picks, barrier will still be the premier non-flash summoner on ADC's(fiddle excepted), simply because there's very little way to outplay the damage through cleanse, it's better just to be able to eat more of it. | ||
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Sponkz
Denmark4564 Posts
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scFoX
France454 Posts
On September 04 2013 17:31 Amui wrote: Well you also have to look at what they have to deal with. The prevalence of stuff like J4/eve/elise/LS jungle, zac top and zed/ahri being top tier picks. Zed and ahri will blow you up with a singe rotation, cleanse or not on the ignite damage. Unless there's a change in the other picks, barrier will still be the premier non-flash summoner on ADC's(fiddle excepted), simply because there's very little way to outplay the damage through cleanse, it's better just to be able to eat more of it. I guess another reason is that some of these CC champs (Jarvan, Zac, Aatrox) use knockups which aren't at all affected by cleanse. It's one thing to cleanse a fear or a charm (or even a taunt), but when the other team's gap closers are associated with knockups, there's not much you can do if you get caught into them other than take the damage. | ||
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SagaZ
France3460 Posts
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TheLink
Australia2725 Posts
On September 04 2013 17:57 SagaZ wrote: So what's this snopeeh stream with 3k viewers featuring hotshot lying on a bed. Stephen Ellis @snoopeh 1h Tried to find a girl in Vancouver.. I ended up with @CLG_HotshotGG And now Snoopeh and Hotshot are lying in bed together watching some girl Thresh cosplaying on stream. Funniest and weirdest thing I've seen in ages. | ||
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AsnSensation
Germany24009 Posts
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Kouda
United States2205 Posts
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Disengaged
United States6994 Posts
On September 04 2013 16:56 Sponkz wrote: I wonder if Thresh will be played less, now that you can cleanse his Q. Zac changes seems fair, as does fiora (i think this change is really awesome). Galio changes are nice, but it doesn't really fix his issues regarding viability. Might wanna try out some galio mid (AP carry'ish) or top (full utility tank, kinda like Shen). Nah. The change won't mean much. Thresh is one of the best supports out there and I don't see the change making Thresh being played less. | ||
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