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On September 04 2013 22:26 Clinic wrote:Show nested quote +On September 04 2013 19:12 Alaric wrote:Yeah, Anivia has retarded base damage like that. On September 04 2013 11:42 Slusher wrote:
So back to the game, I think Vi with the new Triforce is incredibly powerful, but it's really hard to lane top with her unless you get an early gank or the other person just lets you farm for free. however playing Vi mid is pretty easy to farm vs non assassin mids, and she's really good at ganking side lanes when ult is available.
I need to explore it a bit more but I'm comfortable recommending people give it a try and see what they think. Don't hesitate to report your findings in the Vi thread, since the "laning" part is still a parody of content, what with me only jungling her and all. But it'll let people discuss it, skill order, runes, etc. (I need to update the jungling itemisation too, haven't touched it since Locket removal but I'm still testing stuff and I'm not too comfortable with things such as damage-heavy builds.) Btw, ArPen marks and AD quints gives you more stats than AD marks and ArPen quints. Vi was jungled by SKT as part of pick comps several times in OGN finals, including the blind pick game (it's been long enough that i figure the spoiler is okay). the build was cookie cutter jungler - ancient golem -> mobis -> locket. i would not consider Vi mid optimal, as she performs best paired with a bursty mid that can follow her ult dives (SKT ran her with Ahri and Zed in the finals). she cannot 100-0 alone with reasonable gold, even with solo lane farm and a triforce, and Vi is underwhelming if she is unable to take a target out of the fight after her ult and burst rotation. this can be mitigated by putting the burst and dive on other champions, say Graves and Jarvan, but she is still best off in the jungle
Oh she's definitely better as a jungler than as a laner, and she's better at roaming mid and farming/dueling top (since you shouldn't ever hit Q against a ranged opponent in a lane without bushes), however just because she isn't as good doesn't mean she can't be played there, so might as well compile informations for people who want to run her in lane.
As for the jungle build, thing is soloQ and competitive are different environment, and the "cookie-cutter" build can simply be mentioned while giving other paths more detailed information. SoloQ is a bunch about snowballing too and Vi isn't the kind of jungler who can snowball easily off of golem->locket (esp. as Aegis is pretty expensive, needing the full 1950 gold before it reaps any benefit).
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Not sure if it's the patch or what, but all of the sudden my league launcher will not open properly. Have tried reinstalling and it has exactly the same problem. Is anyone else having similar issues?
EDIT: Just to clarify, I never actually got to patch my client.
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On September 04 2013 23:06 upperbound wrote:
Not sure if it's the patch or what, but all of the sudden my league launcher will not open properly. Have tried reinstalling and it has exactly the same problem. Is anyone else having similar issues?
EDIT: Just to clarify, I never actually got to patch my client.
That happened to me as well! Repairing wouldn't work, so i had to reinstall and update the whole thing (saddest hour and a half of my life)
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On September 04 2013 23:06 upperbound wrote:
Not sure if it's the patch or what, but all of the sudden my league launcher will not open properly. Have tried reinstalling and it has exactly the same problem. Is anyone else having similar issues?
EDIT: Just to clarify, I never actually got to patch my client.
Same here bud. Stumped.
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On September 04 2013 23:17 seanisgrand wrote:Show nested quote +On September 04 2013 23:06 upperbound wrote:
Not sure if it's the patch or what, but all of the sudden my league launcher will not open properly. Have tried reinstalling and it has exactly the same problem. Is anyone else having similar issues?
EDIT: Just to clarify, I never actually got to patch my client. Same here bud. Stumped.
EDIT: Tried running as administrator, it took like 5 min to open but it finally did work
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On September 04 2013 16:55 UmberBane wrote:Show nested quote +On September 04 2013 16:51 Kupon3ss wrote:On September 04 2013 16:42 patochaos wrote:
on other news, LATAM server is like 2 leagues below NA, at least in solo queue.
Got a friend who sucks, plays bad, rages all the time, ragequits games, cant cs. In NA he was bronze 5
moves to LATAM, gets to silver 2, most likely will hit gold
Other friend, plays OK, but rages constantly, got banned like 3-4 times. Max is silver 1
Moves to LATAM, currently Plat 4
Im about to hit GOLD 2, once I get back to my country I'll move there and hit challenger for sure. so that's like 4 leagues below cn/kr? Not sure about China but KR most definitely
At least we're not last.
We're not last!
We're not last!
We're not last!
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Baa?21245 Posts
Good news, OMG got their visas approved.
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I am thinking about just playing Swain every game I can in ranked. I'm 16-5 with him so far and now that Vlad is getting really popular for some reason..
The build I have been going isn't the best, but so far Dring > Chalice/Seekers into Rylais + SV + Hourglass has been getting me through ranked games pretty easily.
RoA might be a better item, but I never really was a fan of it in general. It probably is better for HP than Rylais but I am making excuses in my head why Rylais is better that don't really make sense.
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United States23745 Posts
You guys realize Riot still uses AD to refer to the position, right? The marksman change only affected the champion tags.
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Maplestreet moved to mid? Idk how thats going to work as he was the reason they were winning any games at all while he was on AD
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On September 04 2013 23:23 upperbound wrote:Show nested quote +On September 04 2013 23:17 seanisgrand wrote:On September 04 2013 23:06 upperbound wrote:
Not sure if it's the patch or what, but all of the sudden my league launcher will not open properly. Have tried reinstalling and it has exactly the same problem. Is anyone else having similar issues?
EDIT: Just to clarify, I never actually got to patch my client. Same here bud. Stumped. EDIT: Tried running as administrator, it took like 5 min to open but it finally did work
i had it too, but i have it on my SSD and it took 30 seconds.
Maybe they checked all files.
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On September 04 2013 23:40 Ushio wrote:
Maplestreet moved to mid? Idk how thats going to work as he was the reason they were winning any games at all while he was on AD
I saw maplestreet playing mid a few different times on other player's streams, I was wondering what was up. His Ahri was pretty good, wasn't too impressed with his Diana.
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On September 04 2013 23:39 57 Corvette wrote:
I am thinking about just playing Swain every game I can in ranked. I'm 16-5 with him so far and now that Vlad is getting really popular for some reason..
The build I have been going isn't the best, but so far Dring > Chalice/Seekers into Rylais + SV + Hourglass has been getting me through ranked games pretty easily.
RoA might be a better item, but I never really was a fan of it in general. It probably is better for HP than Rylais but I am making excuses in my head why Rylais is better that don't really make sense.
Oooooh Swain, I forgot about him.
What runes/masteries you running?
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On September 04 2013 23:50 jcarlsoniv wrote:Show nested quote +On September 04 2013 23:39 57 Corvette wrote:
I am thinking about just playing Swain every game I can in ranked. I'm 16-5 with him so far and now that Vlad is getting really popular for some reason..
The build I have been going isn't the best, but so far Dring > Chalice/Seekers into Rylais + SV + Hourglass has been getting me through ranked games pretty easily.
RoA might be a better item, but I never really was a fan of it in general. It probably is better for HP than Rylais but I am making excuses in my head why Rylais is better that don't really make sense. Oooooh Swain, I forgot about him. What runes/masteries you running?
Mpen/Armour/MR/MS for runes, I run either an offensive page or a defensive page.
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On September 04 2013 23:39 57 Corvette wrote:
I am thinking about just playing Swain every game I can in ranked. I'm 16-5 with him so far and now that Vlad is getting really popular for some reason..
The build I have been going isn't the best, but so far Dring > Chalice/Seekers into Rylais + SV + Hourglass has been getting me through ranked games pretty easily.
RoA might be a better item, but I never really was a fan of it in general. It probably is better for HP than Rylais but I am making excuses in my head why Rylais is better that don't really make sense.
Seems to fit the "does spirit visage work with it? Ok it's good" that's been working pretty well for a lot of people right now.
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On the other hand Zac makes me feel miserable everytime I end up laning against him as Swain. And you don't exactly scale well into the late game, especially vs burst teams or poke/disengage teams.
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On September 04 2013 23:39 onlywonderboy wrote:You guys realize Riot still uses AD to refer to the position, right? The marksman change only affected the champion tags.
LCS commentators have said marksman on multiple occasions so it's not merely a champ tag thing, maybe just a talking to newish players thing.
and that reminds me, they better have more than two freakin' intermission songs for the world finals and season 4, my head right now is a broken record v_v
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United States23745 Posts
When the screen comes up that compares the players by position it still says AD. Must just be preference of the caster then, would prefer some consistency though.
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