• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EST 23:03
CET 05:03
KST 13:03
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
RSL Revival - 2025 Season Finals Preview8RSL Season 3 - Playoffs Preview0RSL Season 3 - RO16 Groups C & D Preview0RSL Season 3 - RO16 Groups A & B Preview2TL.net Map Contest #21: Winners12
Community News
ComeBackTV's documentary on Byun's Career !3Weekly Cups (Dec 8-14): MaxPax, Clem, Cure win2Weekly Cups (Dec 1-7): Clem doubles, Solar gets over the hump1Weekly Cups (Nov 24-30): MaxPax, Clem, herO win2BGE Stara Zagora 2026 announced15
StarCraft 2
General
ComeBackTV's documentary on Byun's Career ! Weekly Cups (Dec 8-14): MaxPax, Clem, Cure win Did they add GM to 2v2? RSL Revival - 2025 Season Finals Preview Weekly Cups (Dec 1-7): Clem doubles, Solar gets over the hump
Tourneys
RSL Offline Finals Info - Dec 13 and 14! Master Swan Open (Global Bronze-Master 2) Winter Warp Gate Amateur Showdown #1: Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament $5,000+ WardiTV 2025 Championship
Strategy
Custom Maps
Map Editor closed ?
External Content
Mutation # 504 Retribution Mutation # 503 Fowl Play Mutation # 502 Negative Reinforcement Mutation # 501 Price of Progress
Brood War
General
How Rain Became ProGamer in Just 3 Months FlaSh on: Biggest Problem With SnOw's Playstyle BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ [BSL21] RO8 Bracket & Prediction Contest BW General Discussion
Tourneys
[BSL21] WB SEMIFINALS - Saturday 21:00 CET [Megathread] Daily Proleagues [BSL21] RO8 - Day 2 - Sunday 21:00 CET [ASL20] Grand Finals
Strategy
Game Theory for Starcraft Current Meta Simple Questions, Simple Answers Fighting Spirit mining rates
Other Games
General Games
Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Path of Exile General RTS Discussion Thread Dawn of War IV Nintendo Switch Thread
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas Survivor II: The Amazon Sengoku Mafia TL Mafia Community Thread
Community
General
The Games Industry And ATVI Russo-Ukrainian War Thread US Politics Mega-thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine YouTube Thread
Fan Clubs
White-Ra Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread [Manga] One Piece Movie Discussion!
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
TL+ Announced Where to ask questions and add stream?
Blogs
How Sleep Deprivation Affect…
TrAiDoS
I decided to write a webnov…
DjKniteX
James Bond movies ranking - pa…
Topin
Thanks for the RSL
Hildegard
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1119 users

[Patch 3.11] General Discussion - Page 8

Forum Index > LoL General
Post a Reply
Prev 1 6 7 8 9 10 331 Next
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
September 04 2013 13:50 GMT
#141
On September 04 2013 22:26 Clinic wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 04 2013 19:12 Alaric wrote:
Yeah, Anivia has retarded base damage like that.

On September 04 2013 11:42 Slusher wrote:
So back to the game, I think Vi with the new Triforce is incredibly powerful, but it's really hard to lane top with her unless you get an early gank or the other person just lets you farm for free. however playing Vi mid is pretty easy to farm vs non assassin mids, and she's really good at ganking side lanes when ult is available.

I need to explore it a bit more but I'm comfortable recommending people give it a try and see what they think.

Don't hesitate to report your findings in the Vi thread, since the "laning" part is still a parody of content, what with me only jungling her and all. But it'll let people discuss it, skill order, runes, etc. (I need to update the jungling itemisation too, haven't touched it since Locket removal but I'm still testing stuff and I'm not too comfortable with things such as damage-heavy builds.)
Btw, ArPen marks and AD quints gives you more stats than AD marks and ArPen quints.


Vi was jungled by SKT as part of pick comps several times in OGN finals, including the blind pick game (it's been long enough that i figure the spoiler is okay). the build was cookie cutter jungler - ancient golem -> mobis -> locket.

i would not consider Vi mid optimal, as she performs best paired with a bursty mid that can follow her ult dives (SKT ran her with Ahri and Zed in the finals). she cannot 100-0 alone with reasonable gold, even with solo lane farm and a triforce, and Vi is underwhelming if she is unable to take a target out of the fight after her ult and burst rotation. this can be mitigated by putting the burst and dive on other champions, say Graves and Jarvan, but she is still best off in the jungle

Oh she's definitely better as a jungler than as a laner, and she's better at roaming mid and farming/dueling top (since you shouldn't ever hit Q against a ranged opponent in a lane without bushes), however just because she isn't as good doesn't mean she can't be played there, so might as well compile informations for people who want to run her in lane.

As for the jungle build, thing is soloQ and competitive are different environment, and the "cookie-cutter" build can simply be mentioned while giving other paths more detailed information. SoloQ is a bunch about snowballing too and Vi isn't the kind of jungler who can snowball easily off of golem->locket (esp. as Aegis is pretty expensive, needing the full 1950 gold before it reaps any benefit).
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
September 04 2013 14:03 GMT
#142
--- Nuked ---
upperbound
Profile Joined September 2011
United States2300 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-04 14:06:52
September 04 2013 14:06 GMT
#143
Not sure if it's the patch or what, but all of the sudden my league launcher will not open properly. Have tried reinstalling and it has exactly the same problem. Is anyone else having similar issues?

EDIT: Just to clarify, I never actually got to patch my client.
thenexusp
Profile Joined May 2009
United States3721 Posts
September 04 2013 14:06 GMT
#144
Don't think this has been posted yet ...

http://velocityesports.com/team-update/

tl;dr: frommaplestreet moves to mid, slackoh is VES's new marksman
lolson
Profile Joined February 2013
Germany18 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-04 14:19:07
September 04 2013 14:10 GMT
#145
On September 04 2013 23:06 upperbound wrote:
Not sure if it's the patch or what, but all of the sudden my league launcher will not open properly. Have tried reinstalling and it has exactly the same problem. Is anyone else having similar issues?

EDIT: Just to clarify, I never actually got to patch my client.



That happened to me as well! Repairing wouldn't work, so i had to reinstall and update the whole thing (saddest hour and a half of my life)
seanisgrand
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States1039 Posts
September 04 2013 14:17 GMT
#146
On September 04 2013 23:06 upperbound wrote:
Not sure if it's the patch or what, but all of the sudden my league launcher will not open properly. Have tried reinstalling and it has exactly the same problem. Is anyone else having similar issues?

EDIT: Just to clarify, I never actually got to patch my client.


Same here bud. Stumped.
This is well below quality expected of a post in any forum. -Empyrean
upperbound
Profile Joined September 2011
United States2300 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-04 14:24:27
September 04 2013 14:23 GMT
#147
On September 04 2013 23:17 seanisgrand wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 04 2013 23:06 upperbound wrote:
Not sure if it's the patch or what, but all of the sudden my league launcher will not open properly. Have tried reinstalling and it has exactly the same problem. Is anyone else having similar issues?

EDIT: Just to clarify, I never actually got to patch my client.


Same here bud. Stumped.

EDIT: Tried running as administrator, it took like 5 min to open but it finally did work
obesechicken13
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States10467 Posts
September 04 2013 14:27 GMT
#148
On September 04 2013 16:55 UmberBane wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 04 2013 16:51 Kupon3ss wrote:
On September 04 2013 16:42 patochaos wrote:
on other news, LATAM server is like 2 leagues below NA, at least in solo queue.

Got a friend who sucks, plays bad, rages all the time, ragequits games, cant cs. In NA he was bronze 5
moves to LATAM, gets to silver 2, most likely will hit gold

Other friend, plays OK, but rages constantly, got banned like 3-4 times. Max is silver 1
Moves to LATAM, currently Plat 4

Im about to hit GOLD 2, once I get back to my country I'll move there and hit challenger for sure.


so that's like 4 leagues below cn/kr?


Not sure about China but KR most definitely


At least we're not last.

We're not last!
We're not last!
We're not last!
I think in our modern age technology has evolved to become more addictive. The things that don't give us pleasure aren't used as much. Work was never meant to be fun, but doing it makes us happier in the long run.
Carnivorous Sheep
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Baa?21244 Posts
September 04 2013 14:30 GMT
#149
Good news, OMG got their visas approved.
TranslatorBaa!
57 Corvette
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada5941 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-04 14:42:48
September 04 2013 14:39 GMT
#150
I am thinking about just playing Swain every game I can in ranked. I'm 16-5 with him so far and now that Vlad is getting really popular for some reason..

The build I have been going isn't the best, but so far Dring > Chalice/Seekers into Rylais + SV + Hourglass has been getting me through ranked games pretty easily.

RoA might be a better item, but I never really was a fan of it in general. It probably is better for HP than Rylais but I am making excuses in my head why Rylais is better that don't really make sense.
Survival is winning, everything else is bullshit.
onlywonderboy
Profile Joined August 2012
United States23745 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-04 14:40:13
September 04 2013 14:39 GMT
#151
On September 04 2013 23:06 thenexusp wrote:
Don't think this has been posted yet ...

http://velocityesports.com/team-update/

tl;dr: frommaplestreet moves to mid, slackoh is VES's new marksman

You guys realize Riot still uses AD to refer to the position, right? The marksman change only affected the champion tags.
RIP Ryan Davis / TL or Die / @onlywonderboy
Ushio
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Canada868 Posts
September 04 2013 14:40 GMT
#152
Maplestreet moved to mid? Idk how thats going to work as he was the reason they were winning any games at all while he was on AD
http://myanimelist.net/profile/billng
LaNague
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Germany9118 Posts
September 04 2013 14:48 GMT
#153
On September 04 2013 23:23 upperbound wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 04 2013 23:17 seanisgrand wrote:
On September 04 2013 23:06 upperbound wrote:
Not sure if it's the patch or what, but all of the sudden my league launcher will not open properly. Have tried reinstalling and it has exactly the same problem. Is anyone else having similar issues?

EDIT: Just to clarify, I never actually got to patch my client.


Same here bud. Stumped.

EDIT: Tried running as administrator, it took like 5 min to open but it finally did work


i had it too, but i have it on my SSD and it took 30 seconds.
Maybe they checked all files.
Lounge
Profile Joined November 2011
537 Posts
September 04 2013 14:49 GMT
#154
On September 04 2013 23:40 Ushio wrote:
Maplestreet moved to mid? Idk how thats going to work as he was the reason they were winning any games at all while he was on AD


I saw maplestreet playing mid a few different times on other player's streams, I was wondering what was up. His Ahri was pretty good, wasn't too impressed with his Diana.
jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
September 04 2013 14:50 GMT
#155
On September 04 2013 23:39 57 Corvette wrote:
I am thinking about just playing Swain every game I can in ranked. I'm 16-5 with him so far and now that Vlad is getting really popular for some reason..

The build I have been going isn't the best, but so far Dring > Chalice/Seekers into Rylais + SV + Hourglass has been getting me through ranked games pretty easily.

RoA might be a better item, but I never really was a fan of it in general. It probably is better for HP than Rylais but I am making excuses in my head why Rylais is better that don't really make sense.


Oooooh Swain, I forgot about him.

What runes/masteries you running?
Soniv ||| Soniv#1962 ||| @jcarlsoniv ||| The Big Golem ||| Join the Glorious Evolution. What's your favorite aminal, a bear? ||| Joe "Don't call me Daniel" "Soniv" "Daniel" Carlsberg LXIX ||| Paging Dr. John Shadow
57 Corvette
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada5941 Posts
September 04 2013 14:55 GMT
#156
On September 04 2013 23:50 jcarlsoniv wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 04 2013 23:39 57 Corvette wrote:
I am thinking about just playing Swain every game I can in ranked. I'm 16-5 with him so far and now that Vlad is getting really popular for some reason..

The build I have been going isn't the best, but so far Dring > Chalice/Seekers into Rylais + SV + Hourglass has been getting me through ranked games pretty easily.

RoA might be a better item, but I never really was a fan of it in general. It probably is better for HP than Rylais but I am making excuses in my head why Rylais is better that don't really make sense.


Oooooh Swain, I forgot about him.

What runes/masteries you running?


Mpen/Armour/MR/MS for runes, I run either an offensive page or a defensive page.
Survival is winning, everything else is bullshit.
sylverfyre
Profile Joined May 2010
United States8298 Posts
September 04 2013 14:56 GMT
#157
On September 04 2013 23:39 57 Corvette wrote:
I am thinking about just playing Swain every game I can in ranked. I'm 16-5 with him so far and now that Vlad is getting really popular for some reason..

The build I have been going isn't the best, but so far Dring > Chalice/Seekers into Rylais + SV + Hourglass has been getting me through ranked games pretty easily.

RoA might be a better item, but I never really was a fan of it in general. It probably is better for HP than Rylais but I am making excuses in my head why Rylais is better that don't really make sense.

Seems to fit the "does spirit visage work with it? Ok it's good" that's been working pretty well for a lot of people right now.
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
September 04 2013 15:04 GMT
#158
On the other hand Zac makes me feel miserable everytime I end up laning against him as Swain. And you don't exactly scale well into the late game, especially vs burst teams or poke/disengage teams.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
phyvo
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States5635 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-04 15:09:54
September 04 2013 15:07 GMT
#159
On September 04 2013 23:39 onlywonderboy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 04 2013 23:06 thenexusp wrote:
Don't think this has been posted yet ...

http://velocityesports.com/team-update/

tl;dr: frommaplestreet moves to mid, slackoh is VES's new marksman

You guys realize Riot still uses AD to refer to the position, right? The marksman change only affected the champion tags.


LCS commentators have said marksman on multiple occasions so it's not merely a champ tag thing, maybe just a talking to newish players thing.

and that reminds me, they better have more than two freakin' intermission songs for the world finals and season 4, my head right now is a broken record v_v
"BE A MANGO TO SLEEP LIKE A SNORING TIGER" - Monte
onlywonderboy
Profile Joined August 2012
United States23745 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-04 15:13:23
September 04 2013 15:13 GMT
#160
When the screen comes up that compares the players by position it still says AD. Must just be preference of the caster then, would prefer some consistency though.
RIP Ryan Davis / TL or Die / @onlywonderboy
Prev 1 6 7 8 9 10 331 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 5h 57m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
RuFF_SC2 214
StarCraft: Brood War
Sea 2995
Bale 58
Mong 29
Noble 26
JulyZerg 21
ggaemo 18
GoRush 14
Icarus 8
Dota 2
monkeys_forever357
NeuroSwarm103
League of Legends
JimRising 636
C9.Mang0443
Nathanias25
Super Smash Bros
hungrybox245
Other Games
summit1g12752
PiGStarcraft259
WinterStarcraft178
Maynarde125
Mew2King65
Trikslyr64
ViBE57
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick1068
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 15 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• practicex 24
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• mYiSmile120
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Dota 2
• masondota21557
League of Legends
• Doublelift4651
• Lourlo427
Upcoming Events
The PondCast
5h 57m
WardiTV 2025
8h 57m
Cure vs Creator
Solar vs TBD
herO vs Spirit
Scarlett vs Gerald
Rogue vs Shameless
MaNa vs ShoWTimE
Nice vs TBD
WardiTV 2025
1d 6h
OSC
1d 9h
CranKy Ducklings
2 days
SC Evo League
2 days
Ladder Legends
2 days
BSL 21
2 days
Sziky vs Dewalt
eOnzErG vs Cross
Sparkling Tuna Cup
3 days
Ladder Legends
3 days
[ Show More ]
BSL 21
3 days
StRyKeR vs TBD
Bonyth vs TBD
Replay Cast
4 days
Monday Night Weeklies
4 days
WardiTV Invitational
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Acropolis #4 - TS3
RSL Offline Finals
Kuram Kup

Ongoing

C-Race Season 1
IPSL Winter 2025-26
KCM Race Survival 2025 Season 4
YSL S2
BSL Season 21
Slon Tour Season 2
WardiTV 2025
META Madness #9
eXTREMESLAND 2025
SL Budapest Major 2025
ESL Impact League Season 8
BLAST Rivals Fall 2025
IEM Chengdu 2025
PGL Masters Bucharest 2025
Thunderpick World Champ.
CS Asia Championships 2025
ESL Pro League S22

Upcoming

CSL 2025 WINTER (S19)
BSL 21 Non-Korean Championship
Acropolis #4
IPSL Spring 2026
Bellum Gens Elite Stara Zagora 2026
HSC XXVIII
Big Gabe Cup #3
OSC Championship Season 13
ESL Pro League Season 23
PGL Cluj-Napoca 2026
IEM Kraków 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter Qual
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.