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wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
September 27 2013 17:51 GMT
#5901
On September 28 2013 02:49 JimmiC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 28 2013 02:43 wei2coolman wrote:
On September 28 2013 02:40 Numy wrote:
On September 28 2013 02:34 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:
On September 28 2013 02:32 JimmiC wrote:
On September 28 2013 02:23 wei2coolman wrote:
On September 28 2013 02:19 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:
On September 28 2013 01:28 TheYango wrote:
On September 28 2013 01:14 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:
"in general people have not considered this when choosing supports" definitely implies that people -should- be considernig it.

What, no. That statement doesn't have to carry that implication at all.


Should have a poll.

I'm actually with Cheep on this. When I originally read it, it definitely had that implication, but I seriously doubt Yango really meant people should look into drafting late game supports, when the average games ends at like 30 minutes.


I'm the opposite. Saying that people don't do something doesn't imply that they should be doing it. A lot of people make that assumption, but it's not implied in the statement.

"in General people have not considered if the Tshirt they wore was manufactured on a Tuesday"

That in no way implies you should consider if it was on a Tuesday. If you take it as such you are reading into the statement and making assumtions. The statement it self is just a fact statement on what people consider when making a decision.


taking the statement in isolation is a bit silly and i only did it cause i was too lazy to copypasta his whole post

when taken in context, it definitely had the sense of "maybe people should consider this" for me


Are you sure you don't see that implication because if you were the one writing it you would have wanted such implication? Feel that's often the case when reading text from another person.

I dunno, we often see the question "how come xyz isn't drafted anymore?"
It sort of implies to everyone else that the person still thinks "xyz" is still viable.


Agreed, but that is a question. What yango said was a statement. similar but differnt.

"No one drafts TF anymore." That was pretty much the sentiment during this last season of OGN. It was implied everyone who said this, usually in the context of "why? he didn't change that much, he's still got broken global".
liftlift > tsm
thenexusp
Profile Joined May 2009
United States3721 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-27 17:56:54
September 27 2013 17:56 GMT
#5902
No one ever drafts Poppy in Silver.


This kind of semantic analysis really starts feeling meaningless if you stare at it too long
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
September 27 2013 17:58 GMT
#5903
On September 28 2013 02:50 chalice wrote:
about jinx, they should obviously switch her Q and W right? Q is not the right key to put a toggle on.

Get used to having your ring/middle/index on WER instead, only shifting over to toggle Q every so often.

But yeah you can often tell who designs a champ based on the layout of abilities. Xyph is known to have a pretty standard layout for skills.
It's your boy Guzma!
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
September 27 2013 17:59 GMT
#5904
On September 28 2013 02:56 thenexusp wrote:
No one ever drafts Poppy in Silver.


This kind of semantic analysis really starts feeling meaningless if you stare at it too long

But they should, because no one can deny Poppy hard enough in Silver to stop her from being a nightmare later on.
It's your boy Guzma!
Ketara
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States15065 Posts
September 27 2013 18:01 GMT
#5905
4 games this morning on NA, 3 of them somebody disconnected, in the fourth I was ice skating all over the place.

Just a heads up, beware etc.
http://www.liquidlegends.net/forum/lol-general/502075-patch-61-league-of-legends-general-discussion?page=25#498
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-27 18:02:01
September 27 2013 18:01 GMT
#5906
On September 28 2013 02:58 Requizen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 28 2013 02:50 chalice wrote:
about jinx, they should obviously switch her Q and W right? Q is not the right key to put a toggle on.

Get used to having your ring/middle/index on WER instead, only shifting over to toggle Q every so often.

But yeah you can often tell who designs a champ based on the layout of abilities. Xyph is known to have a pretty standard layout for skills.


Confused. What's wrong with having a toggle on q? Isn't your index always on E/R and your middle on W. I guess I have different item setup so maybe that's why I don't see any issue with it. Your erm one next to pinky is always on Q anyway?
Zdrastochye
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Ivory Coast6262 Posts
September 27 2013 18:06 GMT
#5907
On September 28 2013 02:59 Requizen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 28 2013 02:56 thenexusp wrote:
No one ever drafts Poppy in Silver.


This kind of semantic analysis really starts feeling meaningless if you stare at it too long

But they should, because no one can deny Poppy hard enough in Silver to stop her from being a nightmare later on.


NOBODY can? I'm not sure, I bet there's at least one singular person (perhaps the possibility of there being more people) who could deny Poppy in lane hard enough to stop her from being a nightmare later on.
Hey! How you doin'?
MattBarry
Profile Joined March 2011
United States4006 Posts
September 27 2013 18:09 GMT
#5908
On September 28 2013 03:01 Numy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 28 2013 02:58 Requizen wrote:
On September 28 2013 02:50 chalice wrote:
about jinx, they should obviously switch her Q and W right? Q is not the right key to put a toggle on.

Get used to having your ring/middle/index on WER instead, only shifting over to toggle Q every so often.

But yeah you can often tell who designs a champ based on the layout of abilities. Xyph is known to have a pretty standard layout for skills.


Confused. What's wrong with having a toggle on q? Isn't your index always on E/R and your middle on W. I guess I have different item setup so maybe that's why I don't see any issue with it. Your erm one next to pinky is always on Q anyway?

I keep my index on E and my middle on Q. I like to play with 2 fingers
Platinum Support GOD
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
September 27 2013 18:10 GMT
#5909
On September 28 2013 03:06 Zdrastochye wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 28 2013 02:59 Requizen wrote:
On September 28 2013 02:56 thenexusp wrote:
No one ever drafts Poppy in Silver.


This kind of semantic analysis really starts feeling meaningless if you stare at it too long

But they should, because no one can deny Poppy hard enough in Silver to stop her from being a nightmare later on.


NOBODY can? I'm not sure, I bet there's at least one singular person (perhaps the possibility of there being more people) who could deny Poppy in lane hard enough to stop her from being a nightmare later on.

Well sure, but very few people in Silver (and Gold) can do it without playing an asshole lane champ like Rumble/Yorick/Teemo/etc.

Part of the issue, from my experience, is that junglers in lower leagues rarely go top past the first clear, choosing to focus on bot or mid as those are the "carries", and also generally whine harder. But that's circumstantial evidence at best.
It's your boy Guzma!
MattBarry
Profile Joined March 2011
United States4006 Posts
September 27 2013 18:12 GMT
#5910
On September 28 2013 03:10 Requizen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 28 2013 03:06 Zdrastochye wrote:
On September 28 2013 02:59 Requizen wrote:
On September 28 2013 02:56 thenexusp wrote:
No one ever drafts Poppy in Silver.


This kind of semantic analysis really starts feeling meaningless if you stare at it too long

But they should, because no one can deny Poppy hard enough in Silver to stop her from being a nightmare later on.


NOBODY can? I'm not sure, I bet there's at least one singular person (perhaps the possibility of there being more people) who could deny Poppy in lane hard enough to stop her from being a nightmare later on.

Well sure, but very few people in Silver (and Gold) can do it without playing an asshole lane champ like Rumble/Yorick/Teemo/etc.

Part of the issue, from my experience, is that junglers in lower leagues rarely go top past the first clear, choosing to focus on bot or mid as those are the "carries", and also generally whine harder. But that's circumstantial evidence at best.

In the incredibly rate event that poppy is being played I like to camp her lane whether shes on my team or the other team.
Platinum Support GOD
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-27 18:15:02
September 27 2013 18:12 GMT
#5911
On September 28 2013 03:09 MattBarry wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 28 2013 03:01 Numy wrote:
On September 28 2013 02:58 Requizen wrote:
On September 28 2013 02:50 chalice wrote:
about jinx, they should obviously switch her Q and W right? Q is not the right key to put a toggle on.

Get used to having your ring/middle/index on WER instead, only shifting over to toggle Q every so often.

But yeah you can often tell who designs a champ based on the layout of abilities. Xyph is known to have a pretty standard layout for skills.


Confused. What's wrong with having a toggle on q? Isn't your index always on E/R and your middle on W. I guess I have different item setup so maybe that's why I don't see any issue with it. Your erm one next to pinky is always on Q anyway?

I keep my index on E and my middle on Q. I like to play with 2 fingers


Haha guess it's just weird with this being once a site dedicated to the RTS genre that I read people complaining about hotkeys. Had to suffer so much worse for so long it's these things seem so trivial.

I actually wonder how much thought people put into their hotkey layouts. Do you have specific slots you put your items into? I know personally I do something like 4/5 potions C treads Z/X Clutch items 6 TP and then 4 Clutch item X Wards. Something like that. That's my dota setup, obviously lol doesn't have tp or treads so it's not quite adapted well.. hmm should look into that.
MattBarry
Profile Joined March 2011
United States4006 Posts
September 27 2013 18:14 GMT
#5912
On September 28 2013 03:12 Numy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 28 2013 03:09 MattBarry wrote:
On September 28 2013 03:01 Numy wrote:
On September 28 2013 02:58 Requizen wrote:
On September 28 2013 02:50 chalice wrote:
about jinx, they should obviously switch her Q and W right? Q is not the right key to put a toggle on.

Get used to having your ring/middle/index on WER instead, only shifting over to toggle Q every so often.

But yeah you can often tell who designs a champ based on the layout of abilities. Xyph is known to have a pretty standard layout for skills.


Confused. What's wrong with having a toggle on q? Isn't your index always on E/R and your middle on W. I guess I have different item setup so maybe that's why I don't see any issue with it. Your erm one next to pinky is always on Q anyway?

I keep my index on E and my middle on Q. I like to play with 2 fingers


Haha guess it's just weird with this being once a site dedicated to the RTS genre that I read people complaining about hotkeys. Had to suffer so much worse for so long it's these things seem so trivial.

I think you can get by with 1 finger in SC2. I only played with 2 fingers and lucked my way to diamond and I didn't even hotkey production or anything including my army
Platinum Support GOD
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
September 27 2013 18:16 GMT
#5913
Oh I was talking more about BW and WC3 with hotkeys all over the place and without potential grid layout(I know that customization was possible)
AsnSensation
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany24009 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-27 18:33:49
September 27 2013 18:32 GMT
#5914
word on the street (aka reddit) is that xpecial is going to be clg in season 4.

some guy in the newest xpecial vlog thread.
He is leaving them. The part where he says "changes are coming to TSM", he's leaving TSM and joining CLG.
The reason I know this is because he was listed on azubu live stream schedule, and once they realized it was put up prematurely, they took it down.(I guess this could also mean that something else happened, and they've decided not to go with xpecial in favor of someone else)
I'm also hoping for CLG Mancloud, as Kelby seems to be talking to him specifically. I think Jiji will end up on Vulcun, with Mancloud Mid for CLG, Link Jungling, Xpecial/Lift bot lane, Chauster Coach/Sub. Heard it here first, folks.

could be bullshit though
onlywonderboy
Profile Joined August 2012
United States23745 Posts
September 27 2013 18:33 GMT
#5915
On September 28 2013 03:32 AsnSensation wrote:
word on the street (aka reddit) is that xpecial is going to be clg in season 4.

That's some Richardson to the Colts level shit right there.
RIP Ryan Davis / TL or Die / @onlywonderboy
Carnivorous Sheep
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Baa?21248 Posts
September 27 2013 18:38 GMT
#5916
liftlift and xpecial do seem to do well together though so it's not totally crazy
TranslatorBaa!
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
September 27 2013 18:42 GMT
#5917
He also seems to not enjoy TSM anymore. Would be really cool. The mancloud thing I'm more unsure of. Link is a good mid and doing MORE role changes seems counter intuitive but it is CLG
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
September 27 2013 18:42 GMT
#5918
l0l, Link to jangle.

OK
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AsnSensation
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany24009 Posts
September 27 2013 18:44 GMT
#5919
well after watching the actual vlog...

- passive aggressive as usual
- calls out tsm members not putting in the same effort as him for worlds/the season
- says he won't focus as hard on winning as on s3 and more streaming instead lol.
Carnivorous Sheep
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Baa?21248 Posts
September 27 2013 18:46 GMT
#5920
On September 28 2013 03:44 AsnSensation wrote:
well after watching the actual vlog...

- passive aggressive as usual
- calls out tsm members not putting in the same effort as him for worlds/the season
- says he won't focus as hard on winning as on s3 and more streaming instead lol.


hard to focus on winning s3 when your team already got eliminated
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