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TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-27 16:53:21
September 27 2013 16:50 GMT
#5881
On September 28 2013 01:45 wei2coolman wrote:
Does Hydra's AoE crit?

Hydra's Cleave does a fixed % of your AD, so no.

On September 28 2013 01:49 Requizen wrote:
Old Tiamat would, not new one.

Mechanically they're different. Old Tiamat splashed % of physical damage dealt, so it would also splash physical damage modifiers like the base damage on GP's Parley.

New Tiamat splashes % of AD, which means irrespective of other additions to your damage, the splash damage is always determined by your AD.
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TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-27 16:53:14
September 27 2013 16:53 GMT
#5882
edit: double
Moderator
JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
September 27 2013 16:55 GMT
#5883
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wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
September 27 2013 17:16 GMT
#5884
On September 28 2013 01:50 TheYango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 28 2013 01:45 wei2coolman wrote:
Does Hydra's AoE crit?

Hydra's Cleave does a fixed % of your AD, so no.

Show nested quote +
On September 28 2013 01:49 Requizen wrote:
Old Tiamat would, not new one.

Mechanically they're different. Old Tiamat splashed % of physical damage dealt, so it would also splash physical damage modifiers like the base damage on GP's Parley.

New Tiamat splashes % of AD, which means irrespective of other additions to your damage, the splash damage is always determined by your AD.

Hmm okay, that's what I thought. They should totally let Hydra allow crit, Melee ADC's plz.
liftlift > tsm
Carnivorous Sheep
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Baa?21243 Posts
September 27 2013 17:19 GMT
#5885
On September 28 2013 01:28 TheYango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 28 2013 01:14 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:
"in general people have not considered this when choosing supports" definitely implies that people -should- be considernig it.

What, no. That statement doesn't have to carry that implication at all.


Should have a poll.
TranslatorBaa!
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
September 27 2013 17:21 GMT
#5886
On September 28 2013 02:19 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 28 2013 01:28 TheYango wrote:
On September 28 2013 01:14 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:
"in general people have not considered this when choosing supports" definitely implies that people -should- be considernig it.

What, no. That statement doesn't have to carry that implication at all.


Should have a poll.

Should have a 1v1 jungle game.
It's your boy Guzma!
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
September 27 2013 17:23 GMT
#5887
On September 28 2013 02:19 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 28 2013 01:28 TheYango wrote:
On September 28 2013 01:14 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:
"in general people have not considered this when choosing supports" definitely implies that people -should- be considernig it.

What, no. That statement doesn't have to carry that implication at all.


Should have a poll.

I'm actually with Cheep on this. When I originally read it, it definitely had that implication, but I seriously doubt Yango really meant people should look into drafting late game supports, when the average games ends at like 30 minutes.
liftlift > tsm
Haiq343
Profile Joined August 2011
United States2548 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-27 17:33:08
September 27 2013 17:32 GMT
#5888
It comes into play a bit more in Dota where when behind a team can be forced to funnel farm imperfectly due to map pressure/safety concerns.
Worrying about your 6item support's farm is silly, but including some means to get your jungler sufficient farm early-ish that they could pick up the off-lane farm later would probably be pretty powerful. Ofc it's so far down the priority list that teams would have to be really good, and really evenly matched for it to hold any real significance in Lol.
I am enough of an artist to draw freely upon my imagination. Imagination is more important than knowledge. For knowledge is limited, whereas imagination encircles the world. -Einstein
JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-27 17:33:56
September 27 2013 17:32 GMT
#5889
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remedium
Profile Joined July 2011
United States939 Posts
September 27 2013 17:34 GMT
#5890
The dog did not bark.
Stay positive!
Carnivorous Sheep
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Baa?21243 Posts
September 27 2013 17:34 GMT
#5891
On September 28 2013 02:32 JimmiC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 28 2013 02:23 wei2coolman wrote:
On September 28 2013 02:19 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:
On September 28 2013 01:28 TheYango wrote:
On September 28 2013 01:14 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:
"in general people have not considered this when choosing supports" definitely implies that people -should- be considernig it.

What, no. That statement doesn't have to carry that implication at all.


Should have a poll.

I'm actually with Cheep on this. When I originally read it, it definitely had that implication, but I seriously doubt Yango really meant people should look into drafting late game supports, when the average games ends at like 30 minutes.


I'm the opposite. Saying that people don't do something doesn't imply that they should be doing it. A lot of people make that assumption, but it's not implied in the statement.

"in General people have not considered if the Tshirt they wore was manufactured on a Tuesday"

That in no way implies you should consider if it was on a Tuesday. If you take it as such you are reading into the statement and making assumtions. The statement it self is just a fact statement on what people consider when making a decision.


taking the statement in isolation is a bit silly and i only did it cause i was too lazy to copypasta his whole post

when taken in context, it definitely had the sense of "maybe people should consider this" for me
TranslatorBaa!
Carnivorous Sheep
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Baa?21243 Posts
September 27 2013 17:34 GMT
#5892
On September 28 2013 02:34 remedium wrote:
The dog did not bark.


The dog did nothing?
TranslatorBaa!
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
September 27 2013 17:40 GMT
#5893
On September 28 2013 02:34 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 28 2013 02:32 JimmiC wrote:
On September 28 2013 02:23 wei2coolman wrote:
On September 28 2013 02:19 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:
On September 28 2013 01:28 TheYango wrote:
On September 28 2013 01:14 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:
"in general people have not considered this when choosing supports" definitely implies that people -should- be considernig it.

What, no. That statement doesn't have to carry that implication at all.


Should have a poll.

I'm actually with Cheep on this. When I originally read it, it definitely had that implication, but I seriously doubt Yango really meant people should look into drafting late game supports, when the average games ends at like 30 minutes.


I'm the opposite. Saying that people don't do something doesn't imply that they should be doing it. A lot of people make that assumption, but it's not implied in the statement.

"in General people have not considered if the Tshirt they wore was manufactured on a Tuesday"

That in no way implies you should consider if it was on a Tuesday. If you take it as such you are reading into the statement and making assumtions. The statement it self is just a fact statement on what people consider when making a decision.


taking the statement in isolation is a bit silly and i only did it cause i was too lazy to copypasta his whole post

when taken in context, it definitely had the sense of "maybe people should consider this" for me


Are you sure you don't see that implication because if you were the one writing it you would have wanted such implication? Feel that's often the case when reading text from another person.
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
September 27 2013 17:43 GMT
#5894
On September 28 2013 02:40 Numy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 28 2013 02:34 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:
On September 28 2013 02:32 JimmiC wrote:
On September 28 2013 02:23 wei2coolman wrote:
On September 28 2013 02:19 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:
On September 28 2013 01:28 TheYango wrote:
On September 28 2013 01:14 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:
"in general people have not considered this when choosing supports" definitely implies that people -should- be considernig it.

What, no. That statement doesn't have to carry that implication at all.


Should have a poll.

I'm actually with Cheep on this. When I originally read it, it definitely had that implication, but I seriously doubt Yango really meant people should look into drafting late game supports, when the average games ends at like 30 minutes.


I'm the opposite. Saying that people don't do something doesn't imply that they should be doing it. A lot of people make that assumption, but it's not implied in the statement.

"in General people have not considered if the Tshirt they wore was manufactured on a Tuesday"

That in no way implies you should consider if it was on a Tuesday. If you take it as such you are reading into the statement and making assumtions. The statement it self is just a fact statement on what people consider when making a decision.


taking the statement in isolation is a bit silly and i only did it cause i was too lazy to copypasta his whole post

when taken in context, it definitely had the sense of "maybe people should consider this" for me


Are you sure you don't see that implication because if you were the one writing it you would have wanted such implication? Feel that's often the case when reading text from another person.

I dunno, we often see the question "how come xyz isn't drafted anymore?"
It sort of implies to everyone else that the person still thinks "xyz" is still viable.
liftlift > tsm
Amui
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada10567 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-27 17:45:18
September 27 2013 17:44 GMT
#5895
I don't think it's much different than the romanians(&sarcasm). Some things would be easy to understand when speaking, but without tonal context, it suddenly is much more ambiguous.
Porouscloud - NA LoL
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
September 27 2013 17:46 GMT
#5896
On September 28 2013 02:43 wei2coolman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 28 2013 02:40 Numy wrote:
On September 28 2013 02:34 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:
On September 28 2013 02:32 JimmiC wrote:
On September 28 2013 02:23 wei2coolman wrote:
On September 28 2013 02:19 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:
On September 28 2013 01:28 TheYango wrote:
On September 28 2013 01:14 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:
"in general people have not considered this when choosing supports" definitely implies that people -should- be considernig it.

What, no. That statement doesn't have to carry that implication at all.


Should have a poll.

I'm actually with Cheep on this. When I originally read it, it definitely had that implication, but I seriously doubt Yango really meant people should look into drafting late game supports, when the average games ends at like 30 minutes.


I'm the opposite. Saying that people don't do something doesn't imply that they should be doing it. A lot of people make that assumption, but it's not implied in the statement.

"in General people have not considered if the Tshirt they wore was manufactured on a Tuesday"

That in no way implies you should consider if it was on a Tuesday. If you take it as such you are reading into the statement and making assumtions. The statement it self is just a fact statement on what people consider when making a decision.


taking the statement in isolation is a bit silly and i only did it cause i was too lazy to copypasta his whole post

when taken in context, it definitely had the sense of "maybe people should consider this" for me


Are you sure you don't see that implication because if you were the one writing it you would have wanted such implication? Feel that's often the case when reading text from another person.

I dunno, we often see the question "how come xyz isn't drafted anymore?"
It sort of implies to everyone else that the person still thinks "xyz" is still viable.

Or it's just Shikyo playing a new champion.
It's your boy Guzma!
JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
September 27 2013 17:49 GMT
#5897
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chalice
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1945 Posts
September 27 2013 17:50 GMT
#5898
about jinx, they should obviously switch her Q and W right? Q is not the right key to put a toggle on.
FinestHour
Profile Joined August 2010
United States18466 Posts
September 27 2013 17:50 GMT
#5899
so ive noticed that the quality of games has definitely decreased as the season has come to an end, so many silvers queing with gold and plat trying to have their friend carry them to an elise skin and the games are just horrible

does this always happen at the end of a season
thug life.                                                       MVP/ex-
Carnivorous Sheep
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Baa?21243 Posts
September 27 2013 17:51 GMT
#5900
On September 28 2013 02:50 FinestHour wrote:

does this always happen at the end of a season


ya

you should start trolling games to crush some dreams
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