• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 09:11
CEST 15:11
KST 22:11
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Serral wins Maestros of the Game 236ByuL, and the Limitations of Standard Play3Team Liquid Map Contest #22: Results and Winners7Code S Season 2 (2026): RO4 and Finals Preview12TL.net Map Contest #22 - Voting & Ladder Map Selection7
Community News
BSL Season 22 Full Overview & Conclusion5BSL Season 22 Full Overview & Conclusion5Weekly Cups (June 29-July 5): Solar Doubles0MC vs IdrA, Boxer vs Nal_rA to be Legacy Matches @ BlizzCon445.0.16 Hotfix (June 30) - Balance + Bug Fixes40
StarCraft 2
General
Most successful SC2 players of Q2 2026 AquaTrail-(I've Tested) My 90 Day Honest Experienc https://www.facebook.com/Power.Pro.Genius.USD/ Serral wins Maestros of the Game 2 MC vs IdrA, Boxer vs Nal_rA to be Legacy Matches @ BlizzCon
Tourneys
RSL Revival: Season 6 - Qualifiers and Main Event GSL CK #5 Race War HomeStory Cup 29 Vespene Cup #1 — $300+ USD, July 10 Sea Duckling Open (Global, Bronze-Diamond)
Strategy
[G] Having the right mentality to improve
Custom Maps
New Map Maker - Looking for Advice - Love or Hate Work In Progress Melee Maps [D]RTS in all its shapes and glory <3
External Content
Mutation # 533 Die Together The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 532 Nuclear Family Mutation # 531 Experimental Artillery
Brood War
General
BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ BW General Discussion BSL Season 22 Full Overview & Conclusion ASL 22 Proposed Map Pool Starcraft vs Retro Category on Twitch
Tourneys
[ASL22] Wildcard Qualifier [Megathread] Daily Proleagues IPSL Spring 2026 Top 4! Escore Tournament StarCraft Season 2
Strategy
Fighting Spirit mining rates Simple Questions, Simple Answers Creating a full chart of Zerg builds Relatively freeroll strategies
Other Games
General Games
General RTS Discussion Thread Summer Games Done Quick 2026! Nintendo Switch Thread Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Dawn of War IV
Dota 2
Looking for a Dota Mentor Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug
TL Mafia
NeO.D_StephenKing vs This Guy From 1 Million Dance TL Mafia Community Thread TL Mafia Power Rank Vanilla Mini Mafia
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread UK Politics Mega-thread YouTube Thread Canadian Politics Mega-thread
Fan Clubs
The IdrA Fan Club The HerO Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread Movie Discussion! Series you have seen recently... [Req][Books] Good Fantasy/SciFi books [TV/BOOK] *SPOILERS* Game of Thrones Discussion
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread McBoner: A hockey love story Tennis[sport] Formula 1 Discussion TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
FPS when play League Of Legend on laptop How to clean a TTe Thermaltake keyboard? Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Major Shifts in the Gaming I…
TrAiDoS
An Exploration of th…
waywardstrategy
Gauntlet SC2: A Retrospectiv…
Ctone23
ramps on octagon
StaticNine
Funny Nicknames
LUCKY_NOOB
Evil Gacha Games and the…
ffswowsucks
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 5368 users

[Patch 3.11] General Discussion - Page 295

Forum Index > LoL General
Post a Reply
Prev 1 293 294 295 296 297 331 Next
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-27 16:53:21
September 27 2013 16:50 GMT
#5881
On September 28 2013 01:45 wei2coolman wrote:
Does Hydra's AoE crit?

Hydra's Cleave does a fixed % of your AD, so no.

On September 28 2013 01:49 Requizen wrote:
Old Tiamat would, not new one.

Mechanically they're different. Old Tiamat splashed % of physical damage dealt, so it would also splash physical damage modifiers like the base damage on GP's Parley.

New Tiamat splashes % of AD, which means irrespective of other additions to your damage, the splash damage is always determined by your AD.
Moderator
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-27 16:53:14
September 27 2013 16:53 GMT
#5882
edit: double
Moderator
JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
September 27 2013 16:55 GMT
#5883
--- Nuked ---
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
September 27 2013 17:16 GMT
#5884
On September 28 2013 01:50 TheYango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 28 2013 01:45 wei2coolman wrote:
Does Hydra's AoE crit?

Hydra's Cleave does a fixed % of your AD, so no.

Show nested quote +
On September 28 2013 01:49 Requizen wrote:
Old Tiamat would, not new one.

Mechanically they're different. Old Tiamat splashed % of physical damage dealt, so it would also splash physical damage modifiers like the base damage on GP's Parley.

New Tiamat splashes % of AD, which means irrespective of other additions to your damage, the splash damage is always determined by your AD.

Hmm okay, that's what I thought. They should totally let Hydra allow crit, Melee ADC's plz.
liftlift > tsm
Carnivorous Sheep
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Baa?21245 Posts
September 27 2013 17:19 GMT
#5885
On September 28 2013 01:28 TheYango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 28 2013 01:14 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:
"in general people have not considered this when choosing supports" definitely implies that people -should- be considernig it.

What, no. That statement doesn't have to carry that implication at all.


Should have a poll.
TranslatorBaa!
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
September 27 2013 17:21 GMT
#5886
On September 28 2013 02:19 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 28 2013 01:28 TheYango wrote:
On September 28 2013 01:14 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:
"in general people have not considered this when choosing supports" definitely implies that people -should- be considernig it.

What, no. That statement doesn't have to carry that implication at all.


Should have a poll.

Should have a 1v1 jungle game.
It's your boy Guzma!
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
September 27 2013 17:23 GMT
#5887
On September 28 2013 02:19 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 28 2013 01:28 TheYango wrote:
On September 28 2013 01:14 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:
"in general people have not considered this when choosing supports" definitely implies that people -should- be considernig it.

What, no. That statement doesn't have to carry that implication at all.


Should have a poll.

I'm actually with Cheep on this. When I originally read it, it definitely had that implication, but I seriously doubt Yango really meant people should look into drafting late game supports, when the average games ends at like 30 minutes.
liftlift > tsm
Haiq343
Profile Joined August 2011
United States2548 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-27 17:33:08
September 27 2013 17:32 GMT
#5888
It comes into play a bit more in Dota where when behind a team can be forced to funnel farm imperfectly due to map pressure/safety concerns.
Worrying about your 6item support's farm is silly, but including some means to get your jungler sufficient farm early-ish that they could pick up the off-lane farm later would probably be pretty powerful. Ofc it's so far down the priority list that teams would have to be really good, and really evenly matched for it to hold any real significance in Lol.
I am enough of an artist to draw freely upon my imagination. Imagination is more important than knowledge. For knowledge is limited, whereas imagination encircles the world. -Einstein
JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-27 17:33:56
September 27 2013 17:32 GMT
#5889
--- Nuked ---
remedium
Profile Joined July 2011
United States939 Posts
September 27 2013 17:34 GMT
#5890
The dog did not bark.
Stay positive!
Carnivorous Sheep
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Baa?21245 Posts
September 27 2013 17:34 GMT
#5891
On September 28 2013 02:32 JimmiC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 28 2013 02:23 wei2coolman wrote:
On September 28 2013 02:19 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:
On September 28 2013 01:28 TheYango wrote:
On September 28 2013 01:14 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:
"in general people have not considered this when choosing supports" definitely implies that people -should- be considernig it.

What, no. That statement doesn't have to carry that implication at all.


Should have a poll.

I'm actually with Cheep on this. When I originally read it, it definitely had that implication, but I seriously doubt Yango really meant people should look into drafting late game supports, when the average games ends at like 30 minutes.


I'm the opposite. Saying that people don't do something doesn't imply that they should be doing it. A lot of people make that assumption, but it's not implied in the statement.

"in General people have not considered if the Tshirt they wore was manufactured on a Tuesday"

That in no way implies you should consider if it was on a Tuesday. If you take it as such you are reading into the statement and making assumtions. The statement it self is just a fact statement on what people consider when making a decision.


taking the statement in isolation is a bit silly and i only did it cause i was too lazy to copypasta his whole post

when taken in context, it definitely had the sense of "maybe people should consider this" for me
TranslatorBaa!
Carnivorous Sheep
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Baa?21245 Posts
September 27 2013 17:34 GMT
#5892
On September 28 2013 02:34 remedium wrote:
The dog did not bark.


The dog did nothing?
TranslatorBaa!
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
September 27 2013 17:40 GMT
#5893
On September 28 2013 02:34 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 28 2013 02:32 JimmiC wrote:
On September 28 2013 02:23 wei2coolman wrote:
On September 28 2013 02:19 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:
On September 28 2013 01:28 TheYango wrote:
On September 28 2013 01:14 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:
"in general people have not considered this when choosing supports" definitely implies that people -should- be considernig it.

What, no. That statement doesn't have to carry that implication at all.


Should have a poll.

I'm actually with Cheep on this. When I originally read it, it definitely had that implication, but I seriously doubt Yango really meant people should look into drafting late game supports, when the average games ends at like 30 minutes.


I'm the opposite. Saying that people don't do something doesn't imply that they should be doing it. A lot of people make that assumption, but it's not implied in the statement.

"in General people have not considered if the Tshirt they wore was manufactured on a Tuesday"

That in no way implies you should consider if it was on a Tuesday. If you take it as such you are reading into the statement and making assumtions. The statement it self is just a fact statement on what people consider when making a decision.


taking the statement in isolation is a bit silly and i only did it cause i was too lazy to copypasta his whole post

when taken in context, it definitely had the sense of "maybe people should consider this" for me


Are you sure you don't see that implication because if you were the one writing it you would have wanted such implication? Feel that's often the case when reading text from another person.
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
September 27 2013 17:43 GMT
#5894
On September 28 2013 02:40 Numy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 28 2013 02:34 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:
On September 28 2013 02:32 JimmiC wrote:
On September 28 2013 02:23 wei2coolman wrote:
On September 28 2013 02:19 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:
On September 28 2013 01:28 TheYango wrote:
On September 28 2013 01:14 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:
"in general people have not considered this when choosing supports" definitely implies that people -should- be considernig it.

What, no. That statement doesn't have to carry that implication at all.


Should have a poll.

I'm actually with Cheep on this. When I originally read it, it definitely had that implication, but I seriously doubt Yango really meant people should look into drafting late game supports, when the average games ends at like 30 minutes.


I'm the opposite. Saying that people don't do something doesn't imply that they should be doing it. A lot of people make that assumption, but it's not implied in the statement.

"in General people have not considered if the Tshirt they wore was manufactured on a Tuesday"

That in no way implies you should consider if it was on a Tuesday. If you take it as such you are reading into the statement and making assumtions. The statement it self is just a fact statement on what people consider when making a decision.


taking the statement in isolation is a bit silly and i only did it cause i was too lazy to copypasta his whole post

when taken in context, it definitely had the sense of "maybe people should consider this" for me


Are you sure you don't see that implication because if you were the one writing it you would have wanted such implication? Feel that's often the case when reading text from another person.

I dunno, we often see the question "how come xyz isn't drafted anymore?"
It sort of implies to everyone else that the person still thinks "xyz" is still viable.
liftlift > tsm
Amui
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada10567 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-27 17:45:18
September 27 2013 17:44 GMT
#5895
I don't think it's much different than the romanians(&sarcasm). Some things would be easy to understand when speaking, but without tonal context, it suddenly is much more ambiguous.
Porouscloud - NA LoL
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
September 27 2013 17:46 GMT
#5896
On September 28 2013 02:43 wei2coolman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 28 2013 02:40 Numy wrote:
On September 28 2013 02:34 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:
On September 28 2013 02:32 JimmiC wrote:
On September 28 2013 02:23 wei2coolman wrote:
On September 28 2013 02:19 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:
On September 28 2013 01:28 TheYango wrote:
On September 28 2013 01:14 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:
"in general people have not considered this when choosing supports" definitely implies that people -should- be considernig it.

What, no. That statement doesn't have to carry that implication at all.


Should have a poll.

I'm actually with Cheep on this. When I originally read it, it definitely had that implication, but I seriously doubt Yango really meant people should look into drafting late game supports, when the average games ends at like 30 minutes.


I'm the opposite. Saying that people don't do something doesn't imply that they should be doing it. A lot of people make that assumption, but it's not implied in the statement.

"in General people have not considered if the Tshirt they wore was manufactured on a Tuesday"

That in no way implies you should consider if it was on a Tuesday. If you take it as such you are reading into the statement and making assumtions. The statement it self is just a fact statement on what people consider when making a decision.


taking the statement in isolation is a bit silly and i only did it cause i was too lazy to copypasta his whole post

when taken in context, it definitely had the sense of "maybe people should consider this" for me


Are you sure you don't see that implication because if you were the one writing it you would have wanted such implication? Feel that's often the case when reading text from another person.

I dunno, we often see the question "how come xyz isn't drafted anymore?"
It sort of implies to everyone else that the person still thinks "xyz" is still viable.

Or it's just Shikyo playing a new champion.
It's your boy Guzma!
JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
September 27 2013 17:49 GMT
#5897
--- Nuked ---
chalice
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1945 Posts
September 27 2013 17:50 GMT
#5898
about jinx, they should obviously switch her Q and W right? Q is not the right key to put a toggle on.
FinestHour
Profile Joined August 2010
United States18466 Posts
September 27 2013 17:50 GMT
#5899
so ive noticed that the quality of games has definitely decreased as the season has come to an end, so many silvers queing with gold and plat trying to have their friend carry them to an elise skin and the games are just horrible

does this always happen at the end of a season
thug life.                                                       MVP/ex-
Carnivorous Sheep
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Baa?21245 Posts
September 27 2013 17:51 GMT
#5900
On September 28 2013 02:50 FinestHour wrote:

does this always happen at the end of a season


ya

you should start trolling games to crush some dreams
TranslatorBaa!
Prev 1 293 294 295 296 297 331 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
SC Evo League
12:00
SEL S3 Ladder Invitational
ByuN vs Classic
Cure vs Solar
IntoTheiNu 1034
LiquipediaDiscussion
CranKy Ducklings
10:00
Sea Duckling Open #147
CranKy Ducklings104
LiquipediaDiscussion
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
Ryung 837
Rex 158
MindelVK 34
StarCraft: Brood War
Britney 25478
Bisu 2490
Shuttle 988
Hyuk 963
Mini 751
Horang2 563
Jaedong 506
BeSt 427
Stork 211
Last 160
[ Show more ]
Soma 131
Dewaltoss 128
ggaemo 125
Larva 106
soO 49
ToSsGirL 27
sorry 27
sSak 21
Sexy 18
IntoTheRainbow 13
GoRush 13
Icarus 7
Rock 4
Dota 2
Gorgc8460
Dendi821
XaKoH 468
XcaliburYe154
Counter-Strike
zeus350
Other Games
gofns13815
FrodaN3538
singsing2157
DeMusliM601
Lowko408
Pyrionflax293
KnowMe105
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick28047
StarCraft: Brood War
lovetv 14
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
[ Show 12 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• CranKy Ducklings SOOP19
• Response 6
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Upcoming Events
IPSL
2h 49m
Dragon vs Ret
Patches Events
2h 49m
RSL Revival
19h 49m
Solar vs Rogue
Maru vs NightMare
Sparkling Tuna Cup
20h 49m
IPSL
1d 2h
Bonyth vs Hawk
GSL
1d 21h
Replay Cast
2 days
WardiTV Weekly
2 days
The PondCast
3 days
Replay Cast
4 days
[ Show More ]
CrankTV Team League
4 days
Replay Cast
5 days
CrankTV Team League
5 days
Replay Cast
6 days
RSL Revival
6 days
Clem vs Lambo
Scarlett vs Cure
CranKy Ducklings
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Escore Tournament S3: W2
HSC XXIX
Eternal Conflict S2 E1

Ongoing

IPSL Spring 2026
Acropolis #4
YSL S3
CSL 2026 Summer (S21)
ASL Season 22: Wild Card Qualifier
RSL Revival: Season 6
CranK Gathers Season 4: BW vs SC2 Team League
SCTL 2026 Spring
XSE Pro League 2026
IEM Cologne Major 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 2
CS Asia Championships 2026
Asian Champions League 2026
IEM Atlanta 2026
PGL Astana 2026
BLAST Rivals Spring 2026

Upcoming

CSLAN 4
Blizzard Classic Cup 2026
SC4ALL II: StarCraft II
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
Light Tournament 2026
Eternal Conflict S2 Finale
Eternal Conflict S2 E3
Eternal Conflict S2 E2
Logitech G Connect 2026
StarSeries Fall 2026
FISSURE Playground #5
BLAST Open Fall 2026
Esports World Cup 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer Qual
Stake Ranked Episode 3
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.