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ShaLLoW[baY]
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Canada12499 Posts
September 20 2013 08:19 GMT
#4101
does vi just get unkillable if she gets a few kills through ganks?
ALEXISONFIRE ARE FUCKING BACK (sAviOr for life)
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35152 Posts
September 20 2013 08:39 GMT
#4102
On September 20 2013 17:19 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote:
does vi just get unkillable if she gets a few kills through ganks?

Yes. Vi punches you in the face and takes your ward money.
FinestHour
Profile Joined August 2010
United States18466 Posts
September 20 2013 08:39 GMT
#4103
no not really
thug life.                                                       MVP/ex-
JonGalt
Profile Joined February 2013
Pootie too good!4331 Posts
September 20 2013 09:34 GMT
#4104
What do you guys max on Lissandra? I see everyone on probuild.net go QWE.
LiquidLegends StaffWho is Jon Galt?
Dandel Ion
Profile Joined November 2010
Austria17960 Posts
September 20 2013 09:38 GMT
#4105
On September 20 2013 18:34 JonGalt wrote:
What do you guys max on Lissandra? I see everyone on probuild.net go QWE.

QWE is best

Q for the CD and dmg, W cuz it increases the root duration.
It's also good for making the most out of liss' passive
A backwards poet writes inverse.
AsnSensation
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany24009 Posts
September 20 2013 09:40 GMT
#4106
E reduces its cooldown significantly compared to W but it also increases the manacosts. I also prefer W for the rootduration and dmg increase because the E dmg is rather unreliable and you usually only need one E in use your whole rotation and then you either flash out or you're dead anyway.
cascades
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Singapore6122 Posts
September 20 2013 09:41 GMT
#4107
On September 20 2013 16:13 Kiett wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 20 2013 14:07 Ketara wrote:
On September 20 2013 13:15 Kiett wrote:
...+45 what the fuck

i dont think i've ever seen gains that high except for the first few games after the new season reset :c


How many games did you play in Plat before you got to Plat 1, and how much of a winstreak were you on going into it?

I know it's possible to not get clamped and it seems like the number of games played you have is what matters. That's just a best guess.

And you can do it Kiett. Believe in the TL that believes in you etc etc etc. I'm sure Requizen will jump in with a motivational picture.

I've played like... 1000 games in plat now LOL

i'll prob be stuck here forever ;~;

i was on a pretty decent streak getting into p1, won 9 games out of my last 10 i think? guess that's not good enough


Just grind your way into d5 like some of my friends are doing. You slowly end up with more lp.
HS: cascades#1595 || LoL: stoppin
JonGalt
Profile Joined February 2013
Pootie too good!4331 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-20 09:51:25
September 20 2013 09:48 GMT
#4108
On September 20 2013 18:38 Dandel Ion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 20 2013 18:34 JonGalt wrote:
What do you guys max on Lissandra? I see everyone on probuild.net go QWE.

QWE is best

Q for the CD and dmg, W cuz it increases the root duration.
It's also good for making the most out of liss' passive


I understand Q first, but why not E second? I feel like the cooldown of 24 -> 12 is so much better than adding .1 sec to the root duration. it also does more damage than W, but I know most people use it for mobility, not damage. even still I feel it could be explored. especially if you get cdr in your build, you could zoom around.

maybe athenes, cdr boots, zhonas, dcap, void, GA with e max second. you can use it every 7 seconds.

just a thought.

edit: the mana cost does increase, but if you used your passive well, you could negate that.
LiquidLegends StaffWho is Jon Galt?
Itsmedudeman
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States19229 Posts
September 20 2013 10:14 GMT
#4109


Faker's reaction time and hand speed is pretty unreal. Basically have to understand the only way you could escape that situation if you level up off 1 creep, level up your ult, and ult out immediately all in 1 second.
Navi
Profile Joined November 2009
5286 Posts
September 20 2013 10:32 GMT
#4110
the concept is fairly simple, but the execution is near perfect.
Hey! Listen!
The_Unseen
Profile Joined March 2011
France1923 Posts
September 20 2013 10:38 GMT
#4111
I mean, if I had two pros running at my face when I'm so overextended, my brain wouldn't compute "oh i can just kill a minion and trollult away ezpz" imo
I got five reasons for you to shut up
AsnSensation
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany24009 Posts
September 20 2013 10:44 GMT
#4112
no comment lol... Sjokz is extremely hot in that video though
aurawashere
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada454 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-20 10:57:03
September 20 2013 10:54 GMT
#4113
On September 20 2013 18:48 JonGalt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 20 2013 18:38 Dandel Ion wrote:
On September 20 2013 18:34 JonGalt wrote:
What do you guys max on Lissandra? I see everyone on probuild.net go QWE.

QWE is best

Q for the CD and dmg, W cuz it increases the root duration.
It's also good for making the most out of liss' passive


I understand Q first, but why not E second? I feel like the cooldown of 24 -> 12 is so much better than adding .1 sec to the root duration. it also does more damage than W, but I know most people use it for mobility, not damage. even still I feel it could be explored. especially if you get cdr in your build, you could zoom around.

maybe athenes, cdr boots, zhonas, dcap, void, GA with e max second. you can use it every 7 seconds.

just a thought.

edit: the mana cost does increase, but if you used your passive well, you could negate that.


Obviously having a lower CD on your spells is nice but your damage suffers too much. You cannot rely on E as a damage source as majority of the time you are using it to gap close and it is easy to avoid being directly being hit by it not to mention it really hinders your ability to 1vs1 someone. On top of that there are so many things that can disrupt your E if you mistime it [knockups, silences, etc.] making it useless. Maxing W second is just so much more reliable it lets you clear waves faster because of its shorter CD[dmg is equal to E but significantly lower CD]. As soon as you walk into a lane just pop Q then W and E away and just keep on moving. Once you hit x2Drings mana really isn't an issue as long as you have decent mana management between utilizing your passive intelligently and not being wasteful.
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-20 11:07:33
September 20 2013 11:01 GMT
#4114
On September 20 2013 17:19 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote:
does vi just get unkillable if she gets a few kills through ganks?

Not any more than Jarvan, Amumu, Nautilus, Lee, etc. getting a few kills through ganks.
She gets harder to kill at later levels if she builds super tanky because her passive's cd decreases so it's 120% or even 130% of her HP in a fight instead of 110%.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
SnK-Arcbound
Profile Joined March 2005
United States4423 Posts
September 20 2013 11:04 GMT
#4115
The real danger of a fed vi is that she'll kill you before you kill her. Also with any cdr her q is getting down to 5 or 6 second cd and it's just impossible to follow her.
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
September 20 2013 11:07 GMT
#4116
She has to charge it and it makes her a bit slower. If you have a root/stun/etc. she can't start charging her Q until you use it, otherwise it'll be put on a 3s cd so it's around 4s of free damage. If she's in a situation where she has to run from you she's probably low (also you can position in front of her while she's cc'd/waiting for the cd, or just click as close to her as possible, Q's hitbox is fucked and it's rather easy to stop it even when standing behind her).

But if she gets out of reach once it'll be very hard to catch up, yeah.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51456 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-20 11:18:14
September 20 2013 11:16 GMT
#4117
On September 20 2013 19:44 AsnSensation wrote:
no comment lol... Sjokz is extremely hot in that video though
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HpA0vlXGMEU&feature=youtu.be


taking a lesson from mc i see
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Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
September 20 2013 13:35 GMT
#4118
I thought I'd feel content hitting Gold, but I really want to keep climbing...
It's your boy Guzma!
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
September 20 2013 13:37 GMT
#4119
Well you get clamped so once you're promoted to a new tier you might as well keep playing to see where you end up (was Gold I for me).
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
September 20 2013 13:51 GMT
#4120
I didn't get that after promos, actually. Been getting ~17+ since I got out of Silver, been meaning to beat Guitar to Gold 4.
It's your boy Guzma!
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