[Patch 3.10a: Worlds Balance] General Discussion - Page 80

On August 28 2013 04:24 Ryuu314 wrote:
I think Aatrox is a high pick in EU because people tend to build him a lot tankier. He has great natural steroids with passive, W, and ult so you honestly don't need to build much damage if at all. Then he has a pretty good knockup on a relatively low cd with Q and his E slow isn't shabby either.

On August 28 2013 04:14 kongoline wrote:
funny how atm half++ of EUW recommended games has aatrox in it , i still think he sucks in team fights (like every other melee adc), i can end laning 5-0 and still not be able to do much in team fights while if i do this as for example rumble i can pretty win the game alone with slight help of the team, i check dmg dealt to champions every game and even when i get fed its never that impressive, wonder if he will get to pick/ban status and eventually be nerfed or people will drop him when they realize hes not that great outside of 1v1/small skirmishes

On August 28 2013 04:26 ArchAngelSC wrote:

The problem is if you use the damage on W then you die so fast in team fights (like all melee carries) but if you use the heal then you have no damage building tanky.

On August 28 2013 04:40 kongoline wrote:

this, also that talk about knockup on low cd is annoying its 12sec on max level (u max it last), it can be easily interrupted and has shitty range, zac and jarvan have knock ups with more range and similar cd, plus as a pure tank u do no dmg and as utility pure tank i feel he is outclassed .by zac, j4, malph, shen.

On August 28 2013 04:39 Ketara wrote:
I feel like burst mages are a lot stronger since the Aegis change.

Since junglers aren't getting it so much anymore, supports get it a lot slower and it provides less MR than bulwark did, and since carries typically don't build the new MR items, it's a lot easier to 100-0 enemy carries in the mid game it seems.

On August 28 2013 04:50 kongoline wrote:
well guess we just have to wait till worlds to see if korea will still play their usual zac/shen or we will see aatrox pick /ban every game

On August 28 2013 04:52 Alaric wrote:
Don't be silly, even post-nerf Zac is way too broken not to be a priority pick, you won't ever see an Aatrox unless Zac is banned/already picked.

On August 28 2013 05:15 kongoline wrote:

i agree with u and i find it silly wickd and darien picked aatrox over zac in their latest lcs matches

On August 28 2013 05:24 SnK-Arcbound wrote:
That describes KT vs CJ, Zac vs shen all 3 games, and the zac just dumpstered the shen in lane. I'm not sure if someone said in in these threads, or just someone in one of my games, but they said zac is just way better top then in the jungle, and they were right.

On August 28 2013 05:44 Ryuu314 wrote:
I always felt Zac's jungle ganks are kinda bleh. He can easily ignore wards, but his early game damage isn't very good since you have to max E from the jungle. Zac's cc is also pretty bad with low level Q and no ult.

In lane, you can afford to max Q for more damage/harass and get E maxed out second since you probably won't be needed to teamfight until around level 11 or later. You also get a ton more exp and Zac scales extremely well with just levels.