• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 21:32
CEST 03:32
KST 10:32
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Team TLMC #5 - Finalists & Open Tournaments1[ASL20] Ro16 Preview Pt2: Turbulence10Classic Games #3: Rogue vs Serral at BlizzCon9[ASL20] Ro16 Preview Pt1: Ascent10Maestros of the Game: Week 1/Play-in Preview12
Community News
StarCraft II 5.0.15 PTR Patch Notes133BSL 2025 Warsaw LAN + Legends Showmatch2Weekly Cups (Sept 8-14): herO & MaxPax split cups4WardiTV TL Team Map Contest #5 Tournaments1SC4ALL $6,000 Open LAN in Philadelphia8
StarCraft 2
General
StarCraft II 5.0.15 PTR Patch Notes Team TLMC #5 - Finalists & Open Tournaments #1: Maru - Greatest Players of All Time Team Liquid Map Contest #21 - Presented by Monster Energy Weekly Cups (Sept 1-7): MaxPax rebounds & Clem saga continues
Tourneys
KSL Week 80 Stellar Fest StarCraft Evolution League (SC Evo Biweekly) RSL: Revival, a new crowdfunded tournament series SC2's Safe House 2 - October 18 & 19
Strategy
Custom Maps
External Content
Mutation # 491 Night Drive Mutation # 490 Masters of Midnight Mutation # 489 Bannable Offense Mutation # 488 What Goes Around
Brood War
General
ASL20 General Discussion BW General Discussion Diplomacy, Cosmonarchy Edition Soulkey on ASL S20 ASL TICKET LIVE help! :D
Tourneys
[ASL20] Ro16 Group D BSL 2025 Warsaw LAN + Legends Showmatch [ASL20] Ro16 Group C Small VOD Thread 2.0
Strategy
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Muta micro map competition Fighting Spirit mining rates [G] Mineral Boosting
Other Games
General Games
Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Borderlands 3 Path of Exile Nintendo Switch Thread General RTS Discussion Thread
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion LiquidDota to reintegrate into TL.net
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine The Big Programming Thread UK Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread
Fan Clubs
The Happy Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
Movie Discussion! [Manga] One Piece Anime Discussion Thread
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion MLB/Baseball 2023
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Linksys AE2500 USB WIFI keeps disconnecting Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread High temperatures on bridge(s)
TL Community
BarCraft in Tokyo Japan for ASL Season5 Final The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Too Many LANs? Tournament Ov…
TrAiDoS
i'm really bored guys
Peanutsc
I <=> 9
KrillinFromwales
A very expensive lesson on ma…
Garnet
hello world
radishsoup
Lemme tell you a thing o…
JoinTheRain
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1968 users

[Patch 3.10a: Worlds Balance] General Discussion - Page 61

Forum Index > LoL General
Post a Reply
Prev 1 59 60 61 62 63 156 Next
[PSA]: Challenging the status quo...
thenexusp
Profile Joined May 2009
United States3721 Posts
August 26 2013 05:08 GMT
#1201
Yeah, the difference is Sheen is bonus damage, while Lucian is a second attack.
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-26 05:10:49
August 26 2013 05:10 GMT
#1202
Oh yes, the attack procs Hurricane.

For some reason I thought people meant Hurricane would proc the extra attack (i.e. 3 passive procs off 1 Hurricane AA).
Moderator
wussleeQ
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States3130 Posts
August 26 2013 05:11 GMT
#1203
speaking of sheen, i recently found out that the bonus damage from sheen comes from your BASE damage. so if you have 90 ad with a longsword with no runes + masteries you get +80 from your sheen proc. just a neat thing that i never knew loool
BW -> League -> CSGO
Ryuu314
Profile Joined October 2009
United States12679 Posts
August 26 2013 05:25 GMT
#1204
On August 26 2013 14:11 wussleeQ wrote:
speaking of sheen, i recently found out that the bonus damage from sheen comes from your BASE damage. so if you have 90 ad with a longsword with no runes + masteries you get +80 from your sheen proc. just a neat thing that i never knew loool

it'd be pretty nutso if it was total AD not base.
Seuss
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States10536 Posts
August 26 2013 05:28 GMT
#1205
On August 26 2013 14:25 Ryuu314 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 26 2013 14:11 wussleeQ wrote:
speaking of sheen, i recently found out that the bonus damage from sheen comes from your BASE damage. so if you have 90 ad with a longsword with no runes + masteries you get +80 from your sheen proc. just a neat thing that i never knew loool

it'd be pretty nutso if it was total AD not base.


AD Lichbane OP.
"I am not able to carry all this people alone, for they are too heavy for me." -Moses (Numbers 11:14)
Kenpachi
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States9908 Posts
August 26 2013 05:29 GMT
#1206
Cheesing my way up with soloqueue with Rengar now lol. gotta do it before he gets nerfworked
Nada's body is South Korea's greatest weapon.
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35159 Posts
August 26 2013 05:40 GMT
#1207
On August 26 2013 14:00 Ryuu314 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 26 2013 13:58 Gahlo wrote:
Fun fact: Lucian's passive shot triggers tidecaller's blessing twice but only uses 1 charge.

Well, multiple instances of Tidecaller's Blessing doesn't stack and just refreshes the duration. Since Lucian's passive hits both shots in less than half a second, this may be a fun fact, but not a very game changing/influential one.

Tidecaller's Blessing adds magic damage in addition to the slow.

Make your abusive trades even tradier!
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
August 26 2013 05:41 GMT
#1208
On August 26 2013 14:25 Ryuu314 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 26 2013 14:11 wussleeQ wrote:
speaking of sheen, i recently found out that the bonus damage from sheen comes from your BASE damage. so if you have 90 ad with a longsword with no runes + masteries you get +80 from your sheen proc. just a neat thing that i never knew loool

it'd be pretty nutso if it was total AD not base.

Well it depends what the ratio was. It's just to make it balanced the ratio would have to be low enough to fundamentally change the item.
Moderator
SagaZ
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
France3460 Posts
August 26 2013 05:54 GMT
#1209
XilDarkz carrying wave's second promo
http://www.twitch.tv/waveofshadow
Be nice, buy wards and don't feed double buff.
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
August 26 2013 06:05 GMT
#1210
On August 26 2013 14:54 SagaZ wrote:
XilDarkz carrying wave's second promo
http://www.twitch.tv/waveofshadow

Fiora too low skill cap, no way its xildarkz.
liftlift > tsm
Koenig99
Profile Joined July 2011
Canada904 Posts
August 26 2013 06:20 GMT
#1211
So yeah, AP corki is kinda trollish right now.
XilDarkz
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States563 Posts
August 26 2013 06:43 GMT
#1212
On August 26 2013 14:54 SagaZ wrote:
XilDarkz carrying wave's second promo
http://www.twitch.tv/waveofshadow


uh? why am I mentioned here
aka Mathies! twitch.tv/Mathies if you want to watch me fail. esfiworld.com/author/mathies/
ketchup
Profile Joined August 2010
14521 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-26 07:02:07
August 26 2013 06:49 GMT
#1213
On August 26 2013 13:34 Seuss wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 26 2013 12:40 phyvo wrote:
It's surreal reading through RiotScruffy's posts on the skarner rework. He mentions a problem and my brain goes "ooooh yeaaaahh I remember complaining about this and yelling pointlessly on GD that they've just been reworking champs for being too binary and that this very thing makes skarner a binary design."

I should get a pipe to go with my glorious game design armchair.


Want to buy PTR* account.

*PTR =/= PBE


PTR as far as I know, does not exist anymore. See comments in this post:

http://www.surrenderat20.net/2012/07/tenative-heimerdinger-rework-leaked.html

There's also the fact that Riot hires playtesters now so there's really no role for it anymore.

If they actually have a PTR, I would enjoy being part of it too. one can dream
Ame
Profile Joined October 2009
United States246 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-26 07:58:31
August 26 2013 07:00 GMT
#1214
This poll is starting to look grossly misworded, but I'll leave it in spoiler for history -_-
+ Show Spoiler [bad poll] +
Poll: Have late game team comp vs enemy early-mid game>lost lanes>whatdo?

Other (explanation please~ as short or long as you feel like) (1)
 
50%

Play Safe (1)
 
50%

Play Aggressive (0)
 
0%

2 total votes

Your vote: Have late game team comp vs enemy early-mid game>lost lanes>whatdo?

(Vote): Play Aggressive
(Vote): Play Safe
(Vote): Other (explanation please~ as short or long as you feel like)



Have late game team comp vs enemy early-mid game>lost lanes>whatdo?
Play aggressive: force encounters initiate, hope enemy makes mistakes and loses fights so that late game can be reached
Play safe: avoid encounters let enemy initiate, hope enemy doesn't end the game before relevant power curves kick in

(Lost lanes: lost outer towers, down in cs and kills... another choice would be to SURRENDER-AT-20 I guess, but if you reallllly wanted to try and win. Though, I guess playing late game vs enemy early/mid, losing lanes is kind of expected.)

(Is this better off in Strategy>SimpleQuestionAnswer... or is it also 'use the search bar' material?)

~~~

Other (gathered from replies): maintain morale, contest objectives with numbers advantage (or trade targets to get something out of it), let enemy initiate, mass wards, deny wards, pick off overextended enemies
SagaZ
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
France3460 Posts
August 26 2013 07:09 GMT
#1215
Say something completly meanning less in the soloqueue chat to raise morale
"Don't worry guys, we have better lategame."
Be nice, buy wards and don't feed double buff.
Ame
Profile Joined October 2009
United States246 Posts
August 26 2013 07:13 GMT
#1216
No worries there, Silver(trololol) ranked 5s of IRL friends. 'Better lategame' already brought up on skype in morale raising attempts. Question being which method will have more success reaching said lategame. :p
ketchup
Profile Joined August 2010
14521 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-26 07:17:36
August 26 2013 07:15 GMT
#1217
On August 26 2013 16:00 Ame wrote:
Play aggressive: force encounters, hope enemy makes mistakes and loses fights so that late game can be reached
Play safe: avoid encounters, hope enemy doesn't end the game before relevant power curves kick in

(Lost lanes: lost outer towers, down in cs and kills... another choice would be to SURRENDER-AT-20 I guess, but if you reallllly wanted to try and win. Though, I guess playing late game vs enemy early/mid, losing lanes is kind of expected.)

(Is this better off in Strategy>SimpleQuestionAnswer... or is it also 'use the search bar' material?)


I think you have to attempt to pause/stall the game. Try to farm, but this doesn't mean to play safe. You have to take objectives still. Sometimes, the enemy will over commit, and this is why you see so many comebacks happen around baron/dragon. You can also attempt to pick off over-extended enemies. Of course, it's a difficult balance to maintain. For team fighting, you have to wait for the enemy to initiate, and counter engage at a proper time.


Also, just to be clear, your gold deficit might not be as bad as you may think.
silencefc
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
United States875 Posts
August 26 2013 07:23 GMT
#1218
Just win the vision war.
Slice like a goddamn hammer.
SagaZ
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
France3460 Posts
August 26 2013 07:27 GMT
#1219
I'd say play defensively but ward agressively. You just need a pick to turn it around.
Be nice, buy wards and don't feed double buff.
Ame
Profile Joined October 2009
United States246 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-26 07:35:09
August 26 2013 07:28 GMT
#1220
Ah, perhaps poor/naive wording on my part. Don't give free objectives for sure, but say both teams are gathered around the objective.

Does waiting for the enemy to initiate extend to let the enemy begin the objective? Or should we be doing our best to reach the objective first so that they'll essentially have to 'initiate' on us to contest it? And... I realize there is always the "too many variables to generalize" stuff, but here's to my ignorance.

Thanks for the reply(ies) though. o/
Prev 1 59 60 61 62 63 156 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 1h 28m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
NeuroSwarm 157
RuFF_SC2 112
Nathanias 112
SpeCial 81
StarCraft: Brood War
NaDa 55
ggaemo 35
Dota 2
monkeys_forever498
LuMiX0
League of Legends
JimRising 406
Cuddl3bear7
Counter-Strike
Coldzera 351
Other Games
summit1g8028
C9.Mang0293
Maynarde261
ToD191
ViBE160
XaKoH 137
Trikslyr63
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick861
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 13 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• davetesta31
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• RayReign 32
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Other Games
• Scarra1089
Upcoming Events
Korean StarCraft League
1h 28m
BSL Open LAN 2025 - War…
6h 28m
RSL Revival
8h 28m
Reynor vs Cure
TBD vs Zoun
OSC
19h 28m
BSL Open LAN 2025 - War…
1d 6h
RSL Revival
1d 8h
Classic vs TBD
Online Event
1d 14h
Wardi Open
2 days
Monday Night Weeklies
2 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
3 days
[ Show More ]
LiuLi Cup
4 days
The PondCast
5 days
CranKy Ducklings
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2025-09-10
Chzzk MurlocKing SC1 vs SC2 Cup #2
HCC Europe

Ongoing

BSL 20 Team Wars
KCM Race Survival 2025 Season 3
BSL 21 Points
ASL Season 20
CSL 2025 AUTUMN (S18)
LASL Season 20
2025 Chongqing Offline CUP
BSL World Championship of Poland 2025
RSL Revival: Season 2
Maestros of the Game
StarSeries Fall 2025
FISSURE Playground #2
BLAST Open Fall 2025
BLAST Open Fall Qual
Esports World Cup 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall Qual
IEM Cologne 2025
FISSURE Playground #1

Upcoming

IPSL Winter 2025-26
BSL Season 21
SC4ALL: Brood War
BSL 21 Team A
Stellar Fest
SC4ALL: StarCraft II
EC S1
ESL Impact League Season 8
SL Budapest Major 2025
BLAST Rivals Fall 2025
IEM Chengdu 2025
PGL Masters Bucharest 2025
Thunderpick World Champ.
CS Asia Championships 2025
ESL Pro League S22
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.