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[PSA]: Challenging the status quo...
thenexusp
Profile Joined May 2009
United States3721 Posts
August 26 2013 05:08 GMT
#1201
Yeah, the difference is Sheen is bonus damage, while Lucian is a second attack.
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-26 05:10:49
August 26 2013 05:10 GMT
#1202
Oh yes, the attack procs Hurricane.

For some reason I thought people meant Hurricane would proc the extra attack (i.e. 3 passive procs off 1 Hurricane AA).
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wussleeQ
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States3130 Posts
August 26 2013 05:11 GMT
#1203
speaking of sheen, i recently found out that the bonus damage from sheen comes from your BASE damage. so if you have 90 ad with a longsword with no runes + masteries you get +80 from your sheen proc. just a neat thing that i never knew loool
BW -> League -> CSGO
Ryuu314
Profile Joined October 2009
United States12679 Posts
August 26 2013 05:25 GMT
#1204
On August 26 2013 14:11 wussleeQ wrote:
speaking of sheen, i recently found out that the bonus damage from sheen comes from your BASE damage. so if you have 90 ad with a longsword with no runes + masteries you get +80 from your sheen proc. just a neat thing that i never knew loool

it'd be pretty nutso if it was total AD not base.
Seuss
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States10536 Posts
August 26 2013 05:28 GMT
#1205
On August 26 2013 14:25 Ryuu314 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 26 2013 14:11 wussleeQ wrote:
speaking of sheen, i recently found out that the bonus damage from sheen comes from your BASE damage. so if you have 90 ad with a longsword with no runes + masteries you get +80 from your sheen proc. just a neat thing that i never knew loool

it'd be pretty nutso if it was total AD not base.


AD Lichbane OP.
"I am not able to carry all this people alone, for they are too heavy for me." -Moses (Numbers 11:14)
Kenpachi
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States9908 Posts
August 26 2013 05:29 GMT
#1206
Cheesing my way up with soloqueue with Rengar now lol. gotta do it before he gets nerfworked
Nada's body is South Korea's greatest weapon.
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35162 Posts
August 26 2013 05:40 GMT
#1207
On August 26 2013 14:00 Ryuu314 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 26 2013 13:58 Gahlo wrote:
Fun fact: Lucian's passive shot triggers tidecaller's blessing twice but only uses 1 charge.

Well, multiple instances of Tidecaller's Blessing doesn't stack and just refreshes the duration. Since Lucian's passive hits both shots in less than half a second, this may be a fun fact, but not a very game changing/influential one.

Tidecaller's Blessing adds magic damage in addition to the slow.

Make your abusive trades even tradier!
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
August 26 2013 05:41 GMT
#1208
On August 26 2013 14:25 Ryuu314 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 26 2013 14:11 wussleeQ wrote:
speaking of sheen, i recently found out that the bonus damage from sheen comes from your BASE damage. so if you have 90 ad with a longsword with no runes + masteries you get +80 from your sheen proc. just a neat thing that i never knew loool

it'd be pretty nutso if it was total AD not base.

Well it depends what the ratio was. It's just to make it balanced the ratio would have to be low enough to fundamentally change the item.
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SagaZ
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
France3460 Posts
August 26 2013 05:54 GMT
#1209
XilDarkz carrying wave's second promo
http://www.twitch.tv/waveofshadow
Be nice, buy wards and don't feed double buff.
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
August 26 2013 06:05 GMT
#1210
On August 26 2013 14:54 SagaZ wrote:
XilDarkz carrying wave's second promo
http://www.twitch.tv/waveofshadow

Fiora too low skill cap, no way its xildarkz.
liftlift > tsm
Koenig99
Profile Joined July 2011
Canada904 Posts
August 26 2013 06:20 GMT
#1211
So yeah, AP corki is kinda trollish right now.
XilDarkz
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States563 Posts
August 26 2013 06:43 GMT
#1212
On August 26 2013 14:54 SagaZ wrote:
XilDarkz carrying wave's second promo
http://www.twitch.tv/waveofshadow


uh? why am I mentioned here
aka Mathies! twitch.tv/Mathies if you want to watch me fail. esfiworld.com/author/mathies/
ketchup
Profile Joined August 2010
14521 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-26 07:02:07
August 26 2013 06:49 GMT
#1213
On August 26 2013 13:34 Seuss wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 26 2013 12:40 phyvo wrote:
It's surreal reading through RiotScruffy's posts on the skarner rework. He mentions a problem and my brain goes "ooooh yeaaaahh I remember complaining about this and yelling pointlessly on GD that they've just been reworking champs for being too binary and that this very thing makes skarner a binary design."

I should get a pipe to go with my glorious game design armchair.


Want to buy PTR* account.

*PTR =/= PBE


PTR as far as I know, does not exist anymore. See comments in this post:

http://www.surrenderat20.net/2012/07/tenative-heimerdinger-rework-leaked.html

There's also the fact that Riot hires playtesters now so there's really no role for it anymore.

If they actually have a PTR, I would enjoy being part of it too. one can dream
Ame
Profile Joined October 2009
United States246 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-26 07:58:31
August 26 2013 07:00 GMT
#1214
This poll is starting to look grossly misworded, but I'll leave it in spoiler for history -_-
+ Show Spoiler [bad poll] +
Poll: Have late game team comp vs enemy early-mid game>lost lanes>whatdo?

Other (explanation please~ as short or long as you feel like) (1)
 
50%

Play Safe (1)
 
50%

Play Aggressive (0)
 
0%

2 total votes

Your vote: Have late game team comp vs enemy early-mid game>lost lanes>whatdo?

(Vote): Play Aggressive
(Vote): Play Safe
(Vote): Other (explanation please~ as short or long as you feel like)



Have late game team comp vs enemy early-mid game>lost lanes>whatdo?
Play aggressive: force encounters initiate, hope enemy makes mistakes and loses fights so that late game can be reached
Play safe: avoid encounters let enemy initiate, hope enemy doesn't end the game before relevant power curves kick in

(Lost lanes: lost outer towers, down in cs and kills... another choice would be to SURRENDER-AT-20 I guess, but if you reallllly wanted to try and win. Though, I guess playing late game vs enemy early/mid, losing lanes is kind of expected.)

(Is this better off in Strategy>SimpleQuestionAnswer... or is it also 'use the search bar' material?)

~~~

Other (gathered from replies): maintain morale, contest objectives with numbers advantage (or trade targets to get something out of it), let enemy initiate, mass wards, deny wards, pick off overextended enemies
SagaZ
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
France3460 Posts
August 26 2013 07:09 GMT
#1215
Say something completly meanning less in the soloqueue chat to raise morale
"Don't worry guys, we have better lategame."
Be nice, buy wards and don't feed double buff.
Ame
Profile Joined October 2009
United States246 Posts
August 26 2013 07:13 GMT
#1216
No worries there, Silver(trololol) ranked 5s of IRL friends. 'Better lategame' already brought up on skype in morale raising attempts. Question being which method will have more success reaching said lategame. :p
ketchup
Profile Joined August 2010
14521 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-26 07:17:36
August 26 2013 07:15 GMT
#1217
On August 26 2013 16:00 Ame wrote:
Play aggressive: force encounters, hope enemy makes mistakes and loses fights so that late game can be reached
Play safe: avoid encounters, hope enemy doesn't end the game before relevant power curves kick in

(Lost lanes: lost outer towers, down in cs and kills... another choice would be to SURRENDER-AT-20 I guess, but if you reallllly wanted to try and win. Though, I guess playing late game vs enemy early/mid, losing lanes is kind of expected.)

(Is this better off in Strategy>SimpleQuestionAnswer... or is it also 'use the search bar' material?)


I think you have to attempt to pause/stall the game. Try to farm, but this doesn't mean to play safe. You have to take objectives still. Sometimes, the enemy will over commit, and this is why you see so many comebacks happen around baron/dragon. You can also attempt to pick off over-extended enemies. Of course, it's a difficult balance to maintain. For team fighting, you have to wait for the enemy to initiate, and counter engage at a proper time.


Also, just to be clear, your gold deficit might not be as bad as you may think.
silencefc
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
United States875 Posts
August 26 2013 07:23 GMT
#1218
Just win the vision war.
Slice like a goddamn hammer.
SagaZ
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
France3460 Posts
August 26 2013 07:27 GMT
#1219
I'd say play defensively but ward agressively. You just need a pick to turn it around.
Be nice, buy wards and don't feed double buff.
Ame
Profile Joined October 2009
United States246 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-26 07:35:09
August 26 2013 07:28 GMT
#1220
Ah, perhaps poor/naive wording on my part. Don't give free objectives for sure, but say both teams are gathered around the objective.

Does waiting for the enemy to initiate extend to let the enemy begin the objective? Or should we be doing our best to reach the objective first so that they'll essentially have to 'initiate' on us to contest it? And... I realize there is always the "too many variables to generalize" stuff, but here's to my ignorance.

Thanks for the reply(ies) though. o/
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