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[PSA]: Challenging the status quo...
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
September 02 2013 18:18 GMT
#2921
On September 03 2013 03:08 Slusher wrote:
the thing is Botrk 100-0s while being less damage so really what is the advantage to Hydra in the way he is played in the pro game? basically nothing.

but in your solo q games where your team lets themselves get engaged on whenever you try to push out a side lane I would recommend to anyone to give Hydra a try, it makes him quite a bit stronger in teamfights, his spells do more damage, he gets more lifesteal and of course the incidental damage from the passive if you happen to be able to sneak an auto in.

What you see in pro games isn't always what works best in your games, all I ask is that you consider this.

I was thinking about Ionian boots + Hydra, allows you 100-0, with much higher frequency if lane phase is a bit long, and you're no longer gated by BotRK CD.
liftlift > tsm
nafta
Profile Joined August 2010
Bulgaria18893 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-02 18:20:32
September 02 2013 18:19 GMT
#2922
On September 03 2013 03:16 jcarlsoniv wrote:
So I heard that they put the locket shield on aegis. I also heard that no one builds it. Is this true? And if so, is it because people are retarded and don't see how cost effective it is, or is it because riot made it not quite worth?

People still build it really often.Maybe not 2 every game but still a lot.

Without bork active zed is literally useless dunno why people still think he isn't.He is so hilariously easy to outplay without it.
Ketara
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States15065 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-02 18:21:17
September 02 2013 18:20 GMT
#2923
On September 03 2013 03:16 jcarlsoniv wrote:
So I heard that they put the locket shield on aegis. I also heard that no one builds it. Is this true? And if so, is it because people are retarded and don't see how cost effective it is, or is it because riot made it not quite worth?


The MR aura on aegis was nerfed and the other MR items were buffed, so instead of it being OMG MUST BUY ALL THE TIME it's now more like situational buy if the enemy team is a big AoE comp otherwise get SV/Banshee.

AoE comps are still popular though, I saw a lot of lockets at the LCS playoffs.
http://www.liquidlegends.net/forum/lol-general/502075-patch-61-league-of-legends-general-discussion?page=25#498
Ethelis
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States2400 Posts
September 02 2013 18:20 GMT
#2924
On September 03 2013 03:16 jcarlsoniv wrote:
So I heard that they put the locket shield on aegis. I also heard that no one builds it. Is this true? And if so, is it because people are retarded and don't see how cost effective it is, or is it because riot made it not quite worth?


Aegis is awful now, if you want Locket you don't sit on Aegis ever. Locket is still ok imo but it's hard to get it in a timely matter, it's not ridiculous anymore.
Disabled gamer - Diamond 3 (LoL) D+ Rank scrublord on BW. Bisu doesnt need DTs, He uses probes. just ask Flash.
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
September 02 2013 18:21 GMT
#2925
This is pretty random but I was wondering if there was a way to make Brusier Nid work again in top lane. I remember seeing Expression do some build with botrk but can't remember what else he got. My idea was something along the lines of chalice,botk,sv,randiuns and maybe new trinity. Reason I ask this is because I used to really enjoy top nid so wondering if she can still be played in solo q
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
September 02 2013 18:24 GMT
#2926
On September 03 2013 03:21 Numy wrote:
This is pretty random but I was wondering if there was a way to make Brusier Nid work again in top lane. I remember seeing Expression do some build with botrk but can't remember what else he got. My idea was something along the lines of chalice,botk,sv,randiuns and maybe new trinity. Reason I ask this is because I used to really enjoy top nid so wondering if she can still be played in solo q

Bruiser nid still works, there are just better picks at the moment that can do everything bruiser nid can do, except more.
liftlift > tsm
AsnSensation
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany24009 Posts
September 02 2013 18:28 GMT
#2927
this is kinda funny

-Zoda-
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
France3578 Posts
September 02 2013 18:29 GMT
#2928
I really love Iceborn Nidalee, gives her a lot of utility + good damage. I've had some good success with her, but I'm still a scrub so that doesn't mean a lot.
♪ 最初はi つなぐdo それ つまりlife 常に移動 ♪ - IGN: Uhryks
las91
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States5080 Posts
September 02 2013 18:30 GMT
#2929
I'm currently having difficulty carrying as an ADC. I think it's due to my relatively weak laning phase (I out cs opponents but generally lose tower/kills). I feel like my KDA is incredibly low and am not really sure how to improve my actual laning phase of the game (my teamfighting is usually fine unless my frontline is just too far behind). I stopped playing the role entirely because I was so disappointed in my own play and was wondering how to improve. I play custom games to do benchmark cs stuff but I have a sneaking suspicion I overextend for too many creeps. I tend to play Tristana/Ashe as my main two although I tried incorporating a bit of Twitch (subsequently losing a lot).

In other words, how do I improve my overall laning as an ADC (marksman, w/e)? It's a role that when I do well I really enjoy but when I don't it just stresses me out ~.~
In Inca we trust
Nos-
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Canada12016 Posts
September 02 2013 18:32 GMT
#2930
On September 03 2013 01:48 onlywonderboy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 03 2013 00:39 nojitosunrise wrote:

Uhg I wanna watch the vods so bad but OGN keeps telling me I'm not subscribed even though I totally am.
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]

log out then back in, happened to me too. The final's video is also only in 1080p for some reason, i had to stream that shit for ever
Bronze player stuck in platinum
nafta
Profile Joined August 2010
Bulgaria18893 Posts
September 02 2013 18:33 GMT
#2931
On September 03 2013 03:30 las91 wrote:
I'm currently having difficulty carrying as an ADC. I think it's due to my relatively weak laning phase (I out cs opponents but generally lose tower/kills). I feel like my KDA is incredibly low and am not really sure how to improve my actual laning phase of the game (my teamfighting is usually fine unless my frontline is just too far behind). I stopped playing the role entirely because I was so disappointed in my own play and was wondering how to improve. I play custom games to do benchmark cs stuff but I have a sneaking suspicion I overextend for too many creeps. I tend to play Tristana/Ashe as my main two although I tried incorporating a bit of Twitch (subsequently losing a lot).

In other words, how do I improve my overall laning as an ADC (marksman, w/e)? It's a role that when I do well I really enjoy but when I don't it just stresses me out ~.~

Without seeing your play really hard to say.But in general soloq the best style I have found is to play overagressive all the time.It actually works more often than not.
deth2munkies
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States4051 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-02 18:38:21
September 02 2013 18:36 GMT
#2932
Finally, finally I have succeeded in the series and gotten to Platinum. 2 hardest carries in existence have to be Ashe and Janna, both can make enormous plays and make even the worst team play better.

As far as other adcs go, Cait seems super popular lately, Vayne's always banned, Lucien is horrible, and Graves is making a comeback. Ezreal and Corki got a buff with Triforce, though I'm not sure it's better than blue build. Even so, I feel like Ashe is the best one in solo queue atm.
las91
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States5080 Posts
September 02 2013 18:37 GMT
#2933
On September 03 2013 03:33 nafta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 03 2013 03:30 las91 wrote:
I'm currently having difficulty carrying as an ADC. I think it's due to my relatively weak laning phase (I out cs opponents but generally lose tower/kills). I feel like my KDA is incredibly low and am not really sure how to improve my actual laning phase of the game (my teamfighting is usually fine unless my frontline is just too far behind). I stopped playing the role entirely because I was so disappointed in my own play and was wondering how to improve. I play custom games to do benchmark cs stuff but I have a sneaking suspicion I overextend for too many creeps. I tend to play Tristana/Ashe as my main two although I tried incorporating a bit of Twitch (subsequently losing a lot).

In other words, how do I improve my overall laning as an ADC (marksman, w/e)? It's a role that when I do well I really enjoy but when I don't it just stresses me out ~.~

Without seeing your play really hard to say.But in general soloq the best style I have found is to play overagressive all the time.It actually works more often than not.


Well I do play incredibly passively many games and focus on Csing over harassing... (unless on Trist in which I tend to rocket jump into things I shouldn't early game... works sometimes).
In Inca we trust
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
September 02 2013 18:37 GMT
#2934
On September 03 2013 03:16 jcarlsoniv wrote:
So I heard that they put the locket shield on aegis. I also heard that no one builds it. Is this true? And if so, is it because people are retarded and don't see how cost effective it is, or is it because riot made it not quite worth?

Aegis aura is MR+hp5 now, no more armour, and the self-stats have been nerfed, so even if the other MR items hadn't been buffed it wouldn't be interesting as a "selfish" item anymore, and the cases where the aura is interesting are much more limited.

Add to this that you go from the excellent build-up of Locket (it's a Kindlegem item!) to the shitty build-up of Aegis, and that you only get the shield and 10% CDR when you upgrade Aegis, at which point you've invested almost 700 more gold (which is something like 40% of the price of old-Locket, and a 35% price increase overall), delaying the shield timing for as much.

It's not that Aegis is that bad by itself, but it can't compete with anything unless your team really needs the MR aura, and the build-up is shit for a jungler, especially momentum/early-based ones who went to make efficient first buys.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
JonGalt
Profile Joined February 2013
Pootie too good!4331 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-02 18:47:48
September 02 2013 18:41 GMT
#2935
lol.gamepedia.com/Riot_League_Championship_Series/North_America/Season_3/Infographs/Summer_Season/End_of_Season

Pretty cool infographic. I thought the blue side vs red side was really interesting.
LiquidLegends StaffWho is Jon Galt?
las91
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States5080 Posts
September 02 2013 18:46 GMT
#2936
On September 03 2013 03:41 JonGalt wrote:
lol.gamepedia.com/Riot_League_Championship_Series/North_America/Season_3/Infographs/Summer_Season/End_of_Season

Pretty cool infographic. I though the blue side vs red side was really interesting.


All this tells me is that Meteos is in fact a god. It's also interesting to see that everything in EU happens a couple minutes later than on NA on average.
In Inca we trust
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-02 18:51:38
September 02 2013 18:50 GMT
#2937
On September 03 2013 03:46 las91 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 03 2013 03:41 JonGalt wrote:
lol.gamepedia.com/Riot_League_Championship_Series/North_America/Season_3/Infographs/Summer_Season/End_of_Season

Pretty cool infographic. I though the blue side vs red side was really interesting.


All this tells me is that Meteos is in fact a god. It's also interesting to see that everything in EU happens a couple minutes later than on NA on average.

Highest GPM is 397 for mancloud, faker with 495.
Faker is a god.
Also I think median game time would have been a better measurement of game time difference than average.
liftlift > tsm
gtrsrs
Profile Joined June 2010
United States9109 Posts
September 02 2013 18:53 GMT
#2938
the NA all-star team in season 4 is going to be so beast if they send blood, mancloud, meteos, balls, and dlift
holy cow
i play ... hearthstone =\^.^/= Winterfox
glzElectromaster
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
Japan2474 Posts
September 02 2013 18:54 GMT
#2939
On September 03 2013 03:50 wei2coolman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 03 2013 03:46 las91 wrote:
On September 03 2013 03:41 JonGalt wrote:
lol.gamepedia.com/Riot_League_Championship_Series/North_America/Season_3/Infographs/Summer_Season/End_of_Season

Pretty cool infographic. I though the blue side vs red side was really interesting.


All this tells me is that Meteos is in fact a god. It's also interesting to see that everything in EU happens a couple minutes later than on NA on average.

Highest GPM is 397 for mancloud, faker with 495.
Faker is a god.
Also I think median game time would have been a better measurement of game time difference than average.


Wasnt that 495 from the game when he got fuck tons of free farm as karthus?
RIP Kt. Violet | In solitude, where we are least alone
Seuss
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States10536 Posts
September 02 2013 18:56 GMT
#2940
On September 03 2013 03:53 gtrsrs wrote:
the NA all-star team in season 4 is going to be so beast if they send blood, mancloud, meteos, balls, and dlift
holy cow


That's a really big if.
"I am not able to carry all this people alone, for they are too heavy for me." -Moses (Numbers 11:14)
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