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[PSA]: Challenging the status quo...
kongoline
Profile Joined February 2012
6318 Posts
September 01 2013 20:26 GMT
#2741
On September 02 2013 04:02 Alaric wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 02 2013 03:58 jcarlsoniv wrote:
Any major changes in anything that would influence the meta while I was MIA for the summer?

You can't just pick Kha'Zix and faceroll anymore. :3

actualy u still can, u just build tiamat instead of manamune, every khazix i played against no matter how bad he did in lane still snowballed in team fights and could 1shot squishes later
sylverfyre
Profile Joined May 2010
United States8298 Posts
September 01 2013 20:29 GMT
#2742
Also evolve q and never w
Simberto
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Germany11507 Posts
September 01 2013 20:29 GMT
#2743
On September 02 2013 04:35 Audemed wrote:
Got in a really bad queue last night, and after all the morons shut up and the dust settled, I ended up as jungleona. Oddly enough, it was fun as hell and quite effective, to the point where I did it 3 more times afterward. Is this a "lolsilver" thing or is it legit?


I guess with the current style of junglers barely farming anything and always ganking stuff, it can work. But the question you should ask yourself in that situation is "Why am i not playing J4 instead?"
Audemed
Profile Joined November 2010
United States893 Posts
September 01 2013 20:30 GMT
#2744
On September 02 2013 05:29 Simberto wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 02 2013 04:35 Audemed wrote:
Got in a really bad queue last night, and after all the morons shut up and the dust settled, I ended up as jungleona. Oddly enough, it was fun as hell and quite effective, to the point where I did it 3 more times afterward. Is this a "lolsilver" thing or is it legit?


I guess with the current style of junglers barely farming anything and always ganking stuff, it can work. But the question you should ask yourself in that situation is "Why am i not playing J4 instead?"


Cause I don't have J4! Yeah he's probably better though lol. Leona is way cooler, however...
"People sleep peaceably in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf." -George Orwell
Seuss
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States10536 Posts
September 01 2013 20:55 GMT
#2745
On September 02 2013 04:35 Audemed wrote:
Got in a really bad queue last night, and after all the morons shut up and the dust settled, I ended up as jungleona. Oddly enough, it was fun as hell and quite effective, to the point where I did it 3 more times afterward. Is this a "lolsilver" thing or is it legit?


Leona jungle works, but it has a few issues. Her clear speed drops off very quickly because all her abilities are balanced around her passive, and she's a fairly bad duelist for similar reasons. However, her ganks are scary as hell.

You basically have to play her like Shaco. Gank constantly and only take camps on your way to ganking somewhere else.
"I am not able to carry all this people alone, for they are too heavy for me." -Moses (Numbers 11:14)
smOOthMayDie
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
United States997 Posts
September 01 2013 21:01 GMT
#2746
Are farming junglers still effective in the "always gank, never farm" jungle meta?
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cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
September 01 2013 21:04 GMT
#2747
On September 02 2013 06:01 smOOthMayDie wrote:
Are farming junglers still effective in the "always gank, never farm" jungle meta?


Ask Meteos.

The trick seems to be to play a ganking jungler then don't gank, but have your lanes always pretend you are ganking.
Freeeeeeedom
ExoFun
Profile Joined August 2010
Netherlands2041 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-01 21:05:25
September 01 2013 21:04 GMT
#2748
Sick fizz guide @ champion guides
smOOthMayDie
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
United States997 Posts
September 01 2013 21:05 GMT
#2749
On September 02 2013 06:04 cLutZ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 02 2013 06:01 smOOthMayDie wrote:
Are farming junglers still effective in the "always gank, never farm" jungle meta?


Ask Meteos.

The trick seems to be to play a ganking jungler then don't gank, but have your lanes always pretend you are ganking.


Mind games?
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Diamond
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States10796 Posts
September 01 2013 21:06 GMT
#2750
On September 02 2013 06:01 smOOthMayDie wrote:
Are farming junglers still effective in the "always gank, never farm" jungle meta?


Actually it seems like the "always gank, never farm" thing is a bit out the window. Pretty common to see junglers racking up A LOT more cs than before. I know when I play Shyv I normally get gold near on par with lanes with minimal ganking.

I think the best thing now is someone that can powerfarm AND gank heavily, and modify what % of each for each game.

I play weird shit in the jungle however.
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Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-01 21:12:40
September 01 2013 21:07 GMT
#2751
On September 02 2013 06:01 smOOthMayDie wrote:
Are farming junglers still effective in the "always gank, never farm" jungle meta?


I wouldn't say that's the meta at all. It seems it's more the farm then if you see a 100% kill go for that otherwise farm some more. Instead of trying to force the gank it's about looking for the opening while maximising farm.
XenOmega
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada2822 Posts
September 01 2013 21:19 GMT
#2752
Having a farmed jungler can mean another threat in teamfight. I love Xin Zhao for his ganks, but his dmg does fall off a bit. Someone like udyr has insane clear speed pretty much all game long. His gank is kind of weaker though.

Having a jungler with terrible clear time but insane ganks can work, but if you fail to snowball, you usually will be far behind your opponents when come the time of teamfights.
Seuss
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States10536 Posts
September 01 2013 21:34 GMT
#2753
The jungle meta isn't so much "always gank, never not gank" as it is "always be useful". Popular junglers can gank early, counter-gank, farm, and fulfill a useful role late game even if they don't do well. Ward bypass and dive potential are big pluses.
"I am not able to carry all this people alone, for they are too heavy for me." -Moses (Numbers 11:14)
GoSuChicken
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Germany1726 Posts
September 01 2013 21:34 GMT
#2754
why is NA and SEA given a quarterfinal spot for world but not EU?
AsnSensation
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany24009 Posts
September 01 2013 21:35 GMT
#2755
eu placed last in allstars
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31494 Posts
September 01 2013 22:40 GMT
#2756
Alright so I know there's already a thread for this, but to be completely honest I'd rather give to people I know to some degree than one of 200 5-count posters in the giveaway thread.
SOOOOO

Thanks to GhandiEagle I have a Riot Blitz and Arcade Hec skin to give away for any region except EUNE/NA/OCE as I gave those away to TLer friends of mine (and KR apparently doesn't work). I'm just going to post them here so first come first serve. At least let the thread know if you got them, ok?
Entirely up to you guys if you want to take both for a region or not; I got them in a package and gave them away as a package so the choice is yours.
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Blitz - WWGUT2PYXFGET7
Hec - WWU74QEEDY43XM

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Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
September 01 2013 22:45 GMT
#2757
I used them both on EUW, thanks Wave. Going to remove myself from Ghandi's giveaway since it wouldn't be fair.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31494 Posts
September 01 2013 22:55 GMT
#2758
On September 02 2013 07:45 Alaric wrote:
I used them both on EUW, thanks Wave. Going to remove myself from Ghandi's giveaway since it wouldn't be fair.

Congrats, buddy. Glad you got 'em!
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
TheRabidDeer
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
United States3806 Posts
September 01 2013 22:56 GMT
#2759
Are there any kind of cs benchmarks to go by for say, solo mid? Like 90 cs by 10 minutes or something? I know it will probably vary by champion and by game, but just curious to see how much I need to improve in general. Or maybe how many creeps spawn by 10 minutes?
HazMat
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States17077 Posts
September 01 2013 22:59 GMT
#2760
On September 02 2013 07:56 TheRabidDeer wrote:
Are there any kind of cs benchmarks to go by for say, solo mid? Like 90 cs by 10 minutes or something? I know it will probably vary by champion and by game, but just curious to see how much I need to improve in general. Or maybe how many creeps spawn by 10 minutes?

100 by 12 is pretty standard.
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