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[PSA]: Challenging the status quo...
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
September 01 2013 00:53 GMT
#2561
I mean you're not supposed to say "0K I'm gonna kill this guy" as Ziggs and just drop him, the way Veigar/Lux/Ahri/etc. can, you tend to drop some Qs and then you go in for the kill, unless they're super nice people and feel obligated to walk over every mine when you give them a field.

The fucker definitely makes me want to bite something when he happily launches Qs at me from half a screen away and I'm a short-range champ tho. :<
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
Paljas
Profile Joined October 2011
Germany6926 Posts
September 01 2013 00:55 GMT
#2562
On September 01 2013 09:53 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 01 2013 09:51 Paljas wrote:
On September 01 2013 09:39 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:
On September 01 2013 08:56 Ketara wrote:
On September 01 2013 08:49 NeoIllusions wrote:
Can we stop with the PR shit? Ketara why? -_-


I'm not the ones making the conversation stupid, Neo


hahahahahahha
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On September 01 2013 09:00 Alaric wrote:
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[*]Ziggs: Weak burst, \.


pls

trying to replace roffles. nice


i'm much less vulgar than roffles

yes, sadly
TL+ Member
Carnivorous Sheep
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Baa?21244 Posts
September 01 2013 00:55 GMT
#2563
On September 01 2013 09:53 Alaric wrote:
I mean you're not supposed to say "0K I'm gonna kill this guy" as Ziggs and just drop him, the way Veigar/Lux/Ahri/etc. can, you tend to drop some Qs and then you go in for the kill, unless they're super nice people and feel obligated to walk over every mine when you give them a field.



i mean sure he's "weak" (and this is only relative) single target burst (even his single target burst is on the higher end), but his entire purpose is aoe burst, in terms of burst damage done to an entire team at once, ziggs is like top 3 easy...
TranslatorBaa!
Carnivorous Sheep
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Baa?21244 Posts
September 01 2013 00:56 GMT
#2564
On September 01 2013 09:55 Paljas wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 01 2013 09:53 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:
On September 01 2013 09:51 Paljas wrote:
On September 01 2013 09:39 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:
On September 01 2013 08:56 Ketara wrote:
On September 01 2013 08:49 NeoIllusions wrote:
Can we stop with the PR shit? Ketara why? -_-


I'm not the ones making the conversation stupid, Neo


hahahahahahha
+ Show Spoiler +
+ Show Spoiler +
+ Show Spoiler +
+ Show Spoiler +

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LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL



On September 01 2013 09:00 Alaric wrote:
\
[*]Ziggs: Weak burst, \.


pls

trying to replace roffles. nice


i'm much less vulgar than roffles

yes, sadly

i'm dignified and refined ok, show some class
TranslatorBaa!
GhandiEAGLE
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States20754 Posts
September 01 2013 00:59 GMT
#2565
OGN finals was actually amazing though, so glad I stayed up for it (even though I'm sleeping on my feet right now lol)
Oh, my achin' hands, from rakin' in grands, and breakin' in mic stands
Paljas
Profile Joined October 2011
Germany6926 Posts
September 01 2013 01:00 GMT
#2566
On September 01 2013 09:56 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 01 2013 09:55 Paljas wrote:
On September 01 2013 09:53 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:
On September 01 2013 09:51 Paljas wrote:
On September 01 2013 09:39 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:
On September 01 2013 08:56 Ketara wrote:
On September 01 2013 08:49 NeoIllusions wrote:
Can we stop with the PR shit? Ketara why? -_-


I'm not the ones making the conversation stupid, Neo


hahahahahahha
+ Show Spoiler +
+ Show Spoiler +
+ Show Spoiler +
+ Show Spoiler +

+ Show Spoiler +
LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL



On September 01 2013 09:00 Alaric wrote:
\
[*]Ziggs: Weak burst, \.


pls

trying to replace roffles. nice


i'm much less vulgar than roffles

yes, sadly

i'm dignified and refined ok, show some class

yes, but roffles is funnier.
fun>class
but both gets the job done, i guess
TL+ Member
nojitosunrise
Profile Joined August 2011
United States6188 Posts
September 01 2013 02:02 GMT
#2567
Finally tracked down the website where some guy made gold graphs for LCS matches
http://lolbuildtester.com/Charts/Week1/NA/Week1.php
NotSorry
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States6722 Posts
September 01 2013 02:06 GMT
#2568
On September 01 2013 09:31 Numy wrote:
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On September 01 2013 09:26 NotSorry wrote:
What's a realistic expected winrate in soloq?


50-55% generally is the mark. If you getting 60% you most likely not where you should be and eventually going to hit some ceiling where you even out. That is unless you are a pro at this game :D

OH cool, I was feeling bad that most my champs are around 50% but I got 2 70% ~150games
We have now sunk to a depth at which restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men. - Orwell
Lmui
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada6223 Posts
September 01 2013 02:09 GMT
#2569
http://www.surrenderat20.net/2013/08/pax-prime-relaunch-panel-sivir-relaunch.html

Sivir's looking pretty good, definitely a good change from her current iteration.
Navi
Profile Joined November 2009
5286 Posts
September 01 2013 02:23 GMT
#2570
On September 01 2013 08:44 obesechicken13 wrote:
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On September 01 2013 08:30 Amui wrote:
Just in case people haven't seen it WARNING SPOILERS FROM OGN FINALS.

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The single most ridiculous thing I have EVER seen in league. Maybe a couple people in the world that could've pulled this off given a lot of tries without pressure. To do it on this stage though, only Faker. Watching it live, my jaw literally dropped to the floor as I watched in stunned silence even at 7am in the morning. Dodged multiple auto attacks, dodged all the skillshots, and just played perfectly.



Full speed



I might just be jealous or something, but I can't believe that was all intentional. I can barely tell if Faker's E hit before the other Zed ulted, also the other Zed seemed to dodge back to a shadow unnecessarily and it's hard to dodge Q's unless you're predicting them. It feels like Faker tried to get away in the end but took his opportunity when he saw he could kill.


he dodged nearly every single one of ryu's autos (and the last shurikens)
Hey! Listen!
Nos-
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Canada12016 Posts
September 01 2013 02:26 GMT
#2571
On September 01 2013 11:23 Navi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 01 2013 08:44 obesechicken13 wrote:
On September 01 2013 08:30 Amui wrote:
Just in case people haven't seen it WARNING SPOILERS FROM OGN FINALS.

+ Show Spoiler +

The single most ridiculous thing I have EVER seen in league. Maybe a couple people in the world that could've pulled this off given a lot of tries without pressure. To do it on this stage though, only Faker. Watching it live, my jaw literally dropped to the floor as I watched in stunned silence even at 7am in the morning. Dodged multiple auto attacks, dodged all the skillshots, and just played perfectly.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5YvuTh9DRQQ

Full speed

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aiA5Tt1RHcg


I might just be jealous or something, but I can't believe that was all intentional. I can barely tell if Faker's E hit before the other Zed ulted, also the other Zed seemed to dodge back to a shadow unnecessarily and it's hard to dodge Q's unless you're predicting them. It feels like Faker tried to get away in the end but took his opportunity when he saw he could kill.


he dodged nearly every single one of ryu's autos (and the last shurikens)

It's ridiculous when you watch the slow-mo, then move onto the actual speed, just how amazing that fight was
Bronze player stuck in platinum
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-01 02:30:09
September 01 2013 02:26 GMT
#2572
How did he dodge the autos btw? By swapping before the actual damage was dealt, he cancelled the autos? I "often" get it that when I flash somebody's auto, even though the animation hasn't completed at the time, the enemy just finishes it and I take the damage.
Isn't Zed's aa animation awfully short too? Naut's is easy to cancel by moving away, but Zed's seems... o_o

Aw, that Sivir. Something I liked about the champ (and most of its current splash arts) was that you can easily pretend like she's in her 30s compared to most female champs who're juvenile and stuff. On the pics she looks younger than the current one.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
Kipsate
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands45349 Posts
September 01 2013 02:28 GMT
#2573
ur a ton more cute then Roffles tho Csheep.
WriterXiao8~~
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
September 01 2013 03:02 GMT
#2574
But my greatest fear is not that people will echo the opinions that I suck, that I'm washed up, or that my ego clouds my play. At any point, the hivemind's opinion changes with a single good play or bad game. My greatest fear is the day I stop being relevant as a pro - and not competing in Worlds is the first step in that direction.

-Doublelift.

Damn, those feels.
liftlift > tsm
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
September 01 2013 03:03 GMT
#2575
Now that playoffs are done for the day, I have to decide whether to play my final promotion match.
And stream.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
Amui
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada10567 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-01 03:47:03
September 01 2013 03:15 GMT
#2576
On September 01 2013 11:26 Alaric wrote:
How did he dodge the autos btw? By swapping before the actual damage was dealt, he cancelled the autos? I "often" get it that when I flash somebody's auto, even though the animation hasn't completed at the time, the enemy just finishes it and I take the damage.
Isn't Zed's aa animation awfully short too? Naut's is easy to cancel by moving away, but Zed's seems... o_o

Aw, that Sivir. Something I liked about the champ (and most of its current splash arts) was that you can easily pretend like she's in her 30s compared to most female champs who're juvenile and stuff. On the pics she looks younger than the current one.


Often times, because of latency, dodging on your end doesn't mean dodging on the servers end. But at sub 5ms, the server can react in time, and you get the canceled autos. I don't know what the timing is on botrk zed's auto attacks, but it's probably somewhere around 50-75ms where you can see the auto's, but they still can be canceled. If you own zed, get a botrk and level to level 18, and then right click a minion and press S to stop the auto. That window is how much time you have to dodge the auto.
Porouscloud - NA LoL
niukasu1990
Profile Joined July 2012
1007 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-01 03:46:15
September 01 2013 03:20 GMT
#2577
Sry about that, didn't notice that hot linking
GhandiEAGLE
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States20754 Posts
September 01 2013 03:23 GMT
#2578
I kinda forgot to post here after the TSM matches today seeing as I was doing victory laps around the crowd, but awesome games! The event has been pretty well-run so far, although there is not NEARLY enough space to house the hundreds of people forced to wait outside each match. Also I met Morello and he was really chill.

Oh and dont forget TSM TSM TSM TSM TSM TSM TSM TSM TSM
Oh, my achin' hands, from rakin' in grands, and breakin' in mic stands
Carnivorous Sheep
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Baa?21244 Posts
September 01 2013 03:24 GMT
#2579
anti hotlinking bro
TranslatorBaa!
Nos-
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Canada12016 Posts
September 01 2013 03:34 GMT
#2580
On September 01 2013 12:24 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:
anti hotlinking bro

i thought it was a spot the difference game
Bronze player stuck in platinum
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