EPT(I max W second for the cooldown decrease and cc duration increase, so E quickly becomes a "tag X so I can still slow him with my 2nd Q if he uses his escape move in the next 5s" or "screw you Vayne" button more than a shield.)
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Alaric
France45622 Posts
(I max W second for the cooldown decrease and cc duration increase, so E quickly becomes a "tag X so I can still slow him with my 2nd Q if he uses his escape move in the next 5s" or "screw you Vayne" button more than a shield.) | ||
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Slayer91
Ireland23468 Posts
mine always cs and do nothing cept a single harass shot now and then unless you hand them a kill on a platter huehue janna does that job better anyway in terms of trading anyway a shielded adc still loses vs a support+adc combined hits and if you get in range you dont have shield or pix the battery tactic of being able to fire everything you have on another target (W friendly, R friendly, E friendly, pix autos+q from E'd target) works much better later when your individual contriubtion is neglible while in lane ur autos are like a free bf sword alaric get off that dope sona is massively stronger in lane than lulu, much easier animations for harass and also has a heal and auras and stuff lulu is one of the best later on though i like to max E 2nd and then spam it non stop with like chalice morellos and cdr boots for max cdr and you can just battery people hard | ||
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RagequitBM
Canada2270 Posts
On August 22 2013 02:41 remedium wrote: I think Rengar is one of the best "let's hope our opponent's don't know how to play against this idiocy" supports. Huge gap closer, CC, heal, burst, pokemon, zoning and brush control... LeBlanc is pretty good too. So true about Rengar. First time I played against Rengar support I got owned so hard. Never lost to one again after learning what he actually does. Real cheese. | ||
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Conroe64
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Yes, he is a worse Leona, but it's still something fun to try once in a while. | ||
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SagaZ
France3460 Posts
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nyxnyxnyx
Indonesia2978 Posts
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Mikau
Netherlands1446 Posts
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SagaZ
France3460 Posts
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wei2coolman
United States60033 Posts
On August 22 2013 05:05 Mikau wrote: I can't believe Zyra isn't seeing more play. She's like a safe Leona. Has brush control, can zone, and can harass from a safe distance. And her all in doesn't demand you commit nearly as much as Leona's, while only being marginally weaker. Oh and stranglethorns is the shiet. C9 been playing zyra a fuckkkton. dunno what you talking about "seeing more play". | ||
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SwizzY
United States1549 Posts
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Mikau
Netherlands1446 Posts
On August 22 2013 05:08 wei2coolman wrote: C9 been playing zyra a fuckkkton. dunno what you talking about "seeing more play". I probably should have specified I wasn't talking about LCS specifically, but more about my own games. Not only that, but competetively (C9 and whenever one of the other team decides to copy them) she only gets played with Twitch or Ashe. I don't see why she isn't more of a 'stick this with pretty much any team comp' support, like Sona, Thresh and Nami seem to be. | ||
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wei2coolman
United States60033 Posts
On August 22 2013 05:11 Mikau wrote: I probably should have specified I wasn't talking about LCS specifically, but more about my own games. Not only that, but competetively (C9 and whenever one of the other team decides to copy them) she only gets played with Twitch or Ashe. I don't see why she isn't more of a 'stick this with pretty much any team comp' support, like Sona, Thresh and Nami seem to be. Zyra can get caught out pretty hard, every time I play her, I feel more vulnerable to getting caught out than any other support. | ||
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Nos-
Canada12016 Posts
On August 22 2013 05:03 nyxnyxnyx wrote: Lee Sin support is where it's at guys I've been saying this for like at least 3 pages | ||
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Mikau
Netherlands1446 Posts
On August 22 2013 05:14 wei2coolman wrote: Zyra can get caught out pretty hard, every time I play her, I feel more vulnerable to getting caught out than any other support. I can see how Nami would be safer, but I don't see how she would be more vulnerable than Sona or Lulu. Not trying to argue by the way, I'm legitimately curious why you feel that way, and what I'm missing here. | ||
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AsnSensation
Germany24009 Posts
http://www.youtube.com/user/LoLChampSeries?feature=watch | ||
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RagequitBM
Canada2270 Posts
On August 22 2013 05:11 Mikau wrote: I probably should have specified I wasn't talking about LCS specifically, but more about my own games. Not only that, but competetively (C9 and whenever one of the other team decides to copy them) she only gets played with Twitch or Ashe. I don't see why she isn't more of a 'stick this with pretty much any team comp' support, like Sona, Thresh and Nami seem to be. The passed 3 times I've picked Ashe in Solo Queue someone offered to play Zyra support. <3 C9 I kinda agree. Zyra could go with many more ADC I think. She's so good. | ||
NeoIllusions
United States37500 Posts
On August 22 2013 05:15 Nos- wrote: I've been saying this for like at least 3 pages Out of non-traditional supports, I'd probably back this the most. Lee Singa has so much utility with his seven skills, all of which scales well and he actually does better with the more wards that are placed? What's not to like? | ||
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mr_tolkien
France8631 Posts
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ComaDose
Canada10357 Posts
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wei2coolman
United States60033 Posts
On August 22 2013 05:18 Mikau wrote: I can see how Nami would be safer, but I don't see how she would be more vulnerable than Sona or Lulu. Not trying to argue by the way, I'm legitimately curious why you feel that way, and what I'm missing here. Lulu's Q, polymorph, + ulti makes it very hard to get caught. Sona has her E, not to mention her W keeps her very tanky, also her ulti is an awesome disengage. Zyra has a root, but that alone isn't enough, especially if opponents flank from an angle. | ||
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