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JazzVortical
Australia1825 Posts
On August 14 2013 18:30 IMoperator wrote: Also, I wanted to ask what's the point of playing a champ like Leblanc since ahri is a far more versatile and useful assassin? Knowing you are playing a harder to play champion  This is a question with a lot of champs though. Why play 90% of the junglers when you can play Zac? | ||
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IMoperator
4476 Posts
On August 14 2013 18:42 JazzVortical wrote: Knowing you are playing a harder to play champion This is a question with a lot of champs though. Why play 90% of the junglers when you can play Zac? yeah same with talon + zed too. it does really seem like power creep is starting to become a problem in LoL. | ||
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IMoperator
4476 Posts
On August 14 2013 18:42 ETisME wrote: I think riot is looking into lebanc according to a red post. personally I think Lebanc is better in terms of offering both a slow and a stun but I am only a low league player :p the problem is that the E has to last the full duration to snare the opponent, compared to ahri whose charm is basically instant cc if it hits. | ||
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ZERG_RUSSIAN
10417 Posts
On August 14 2013 18:30 IMoperator wrote: Also, I wanted to ask what's the point of playing a champ like Leblanc since ahri is a far more versatile and useful assassin? Leblanc USED TO counter some matchups really hard but I'm not sure after her rework if that's still the case | ||
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PrinceXizor
United States17713 Posts
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ZERG_RUSSIAN
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IMoperator
4476 Posts
On August 14 2013 19:02 PrinceXizor wrote: Do any of you have preference for older champions that may or may not even be good or relevant anymore because they feel better than new ones? I feel like thats my main experience with league. i play a few characters only because they feel better to play and are more fun, regardless of fotm status. i also feel this mentality lead to my absolute disappointment with how riot manages their game well I asked my question about ahri/lb earlier because I really like leblanc's playstyle, and her skills and she has a high skill ceiling. Ahri's just flat out better though, there's like nothing about her that isn't as good or better than LB, other than her ult cd. I like ahri I guess, but her character is a lot more generic I guess than leblanc's and I'd much rather play LB than ahri, but there's literally no point in doing that anymore. Same thing with like Jayce and Elise, they're ridiculously strong champs but I just dont fight them as interesting as some of the older champs like wukong. | ||
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mr_tolkien
France8631 Posts
On August 14 2013 18:30 IMoperator wrote: Also, I wanted to ask what's the point of playing a champ like Leblanc since ahri is a far more versatile and useful assassin? Being not ult-dependant. Being a better ganker. Having bigger balls. | ||
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sob3k
United States7572 Posts
So you play LB to pick someone and fucking explode them instantly. | ||
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Numy
South Africa35471 Posts
On August 14 2013 19:09 IMoperator wrote: well I asked my question about ahri/lb earlier because I really like leblanc's playstyle, and her skills and she has a high skill ceiling. Ahri's just flat out better though, there's like nothing about her that isn't as good or better than LB, other than her ult cd. I like ahri I guess, but her character is a lot more generic I guess than leblanc's and I'd much rather play LB than ahri, but there's literally no point in doing that anymore. Same thing with like Jayce and Elise, they're ridiculously strong champs but I just dont fight them as interesting as some of the older champs like wukong. It really doesn't matter if one hero is slightly better than another if you enjoy the first more you play that one. The minute differences are only really noticed at the highest level of play and even then it's only if you desperately want to win more than enjoy yourself. The problem a lot of people have is that they enjoy winning and feel some fotm hero will give them the best chance so they hop around when really it doesn't matter. You can carry with pretty much anything at lower level of play if you just play it well enough. If you aren't playing to enjoy yourself then you will just get frustrated with the game. It's actually similar to the league division system. People that only care about the win get impatient and don't enjoy themselves since there is no instant success in anything. Fluctuations are natural so it takes time to graphically show improvement but if you playing heroes you enjoy you can intuitively feel when you are doing things better(Setting goals within reasonable time frames help) | ||
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Osmoses
Sweden5302 Posts
On August 14 2013 19:02 PrinceXizor wrote: Do any of you have preference for older champions that may or may not even be good or relevant anymore because they feel better than new ones? I feel like thats my main experience with league. i play a few characters only because they feel better to play and are more fun, regardless of fotm status. i also feel this mentality lead to my absolute disappointment with how riot manages their game Hipster mentality is half the choice when picking a champ. Mordekaiser, Tristana, Riven, all my favorite champs were first picked mostly because it's fun to be different. Also they are never banned. Actually starting to worry whether I'm gonna start seeing Riven bans if the pbe broken wings changes stick. | ||
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LaNague
Germany9118 Posts
Funny thing is a lot of people cant deal with her anymore. | ||
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Alaric
France45622 Posts
As far as older champs go... Pantheon, Talon, Orianna, I'd say Cassiopeia but she doesn't really have a "newer" version, Irelia. Amongst the champs I hate most, most of them are old champs too I think (Anivia/Lux/TF/Yorick vs Elise/Jayce, I don't hate Zed/Kha/Zac/Tryndamere enough for them to make the list). I love Maokai and Nautilus too but there's no point in picking them anymore (Maokai still has super strong early ganks but he's a poor duelist and clears like shit in the current jungle so it's obnoxiously dependent on snowballing successful ganks, and Nautilus... they gutted his damage from midgame onward by 25%, his Q is still bugged as hell because of the way the champion/terrain distinction is handled by the hitbox, his early is still pretty weak, and reworked Sejuani and Zac are in the game). ;_;7 On August 14 2013 13:30 Slusher wrote: It also favors Zac top, and a host of cc junglers like Naut and J4 I'll take a reset on J4's healthbar that comes with a 110 armor buff when your carry is trapped in the crater with him. shit is situational. Sadly you can drop Naut off that list, on another note the 3s armour buff on top of a heal is also rather good when Zed decides to ult somebody, it reduces the damage from his whole combo (except his passive and stuff like ignite/red buff). | ||
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mr_tolkien
France8631 Posts
 Anybody here having a forgotten smurf of doom ? | ||
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TomatoShark
United States288 Posts
On August 14 2013 18:42 JazzVortical wrote: Knowing you are playing a harder to play champion This is a question with a lot of champs though. Why play 90% of the junglers when you can play Zac? Nautilus | ||
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Alaric
France45622 Posts
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Sufficiency
Canada23833 Posts
leblonk does have an edge over ahri in some matchups, I feel. | ||
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Gahlo
United States35091 Posts
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sylverfyre
United States8298 Posts
On August 14 2013 21:44 Alaric wrote: Sadly you can drop Naut off that list, on another note the 3s armour buff on top of a heal is also rather good when Zed decides to ult somebody, it reduces the damage from his whole combo (except his passive and stuff like ignite/red buff). Problem is, most of the time you want to 'burst heal' someone (like the guy getting zed ulted) they have ignite on them. I'd much rather just be lulu, not be cutting myself all day due to how boring my champion is to play while also providing even better anti-assassination via poly+shield+wildgrowth (CC the assassin AND give a huge hp buffer that ignores ignite?) I actually LIKE playing Soraka in ARAM, where you can build a bit tanky and spam starcall on 3+ people constantly while also providing heals. | ||
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Sponkz
Denmark4564 Posts
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