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LaNague
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Germany9118 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-12 16:06:47
July 12 2013 16:04 GMT
#81
see, this is why esports is not taken serious.

Making 14 team tournament just so certain teams can advance out of the groupstages.
Sure, it makes League of legends the one eyed ruling the kingdom of blind (esports viewership), but everyone else laughs at it.




I also personally hate it because i want to watch high quality plays and not NA teams noobing it up :p
AsnSensation
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany24009 Posts
July 12 2013 16:06 GMT
#82
Why not mention EU Teams noobing it up, too?
LaNague
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Germany9118 Posts
July 12 2013 16:09 GMT
#83
On July 13 2013 01:06 AsnSensation wrote:
Why not mention EU Teams noobing it up, too?


Im clearly racist


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Or i left Eu out as a joke, hence the ":p"
Dan HH
Profile Joined July 2012
Romania9194 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-12 16:29:12
July 12 2013 16:18 GMT
#84
On July 13 2013 00:59 Kupon3ss wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 12 2013 23:42 Dan HH wrote:
On July 12 2013 14:55 TheYango wrote:
Any "marketing" argument doesn't make sense to me because the places where Riot stands to gain the most from selling LoL harder are the places they're screwing over the most.

Riot isn't even the game publisher in China, they only indirectly benefit from LoL's growth there and I bet they'd take 1 new NA player over 10 new CN players in a heartbeat.

Now we can't really reach a conclusion without knowing the details of their deal but isn't it more plausible that their marketing team, which has all the data, is more likely to know what the hell they're doing rather than people speculating on forums based on no numbers?


riot is owned by tencent

That's besides the point. Riot are looking after themselves. If TGA was in charge of S3 globally they'd do the same thing, they'd give more spots to China than the rest.

To expand on this, Tencent is just the holding company, they don't micromanage Riot or LoL. The publisher in China is QQ Games which is also owned by them. So why would Riot give something up in favor of a sister company?
onlywonderboy
Profile Joined August 2012
United States23745 Posts
July 12 2013 16:30 GMT
#85
On July 13 2013 01:04 LaNague wrote:
see, this is why esports is not taken serious.

Making 14 team tournament just so certain teams can advance out of the groupstages.
Sure, it makes League of legends the one eyed ruling the kingdom of blind (esports viewership), but everyone else laughs at it.




I also personally hate it because i want to watch high quality plays and not NA teams noobing it up :p

Well there's only going to be one NA team after the group states so just skip that and then you get to enjoy the rest of the tournament
RIP Ryan Davis / TL or Die / @onlywonderboy
Kupon3ss
Profile Joined May 2008
時の回廊10066 Posts
July 12 2013 19:01 GMT
#86
It's spot allocation for audience pandering and ticket selling, which makes perfect sense and what riot's strong point historically. Obviously from a perspective from giving us good, competitive games its suboptimal but it does what it needs to on the marketing and business front.
When in doubt, just believe in yourself and press buttons
nojitosunrise
Profile Joined August 2011
United States6188 Posts
July 12 2013 20:00 GMT
#87
So US immigration offices now considers Riot + LoL to be a "sport" when giving out visas.

http://www.gamespot.com/league-of-legends/videos/riots-magus-and-nick-allen-talk-tournament-format-and-more-6411345/

This is freaking amazing
ketchup
Profile Joined August 2010
14521 Posts
July 12 2013 20:39 GMT
#88
On July 13 2013 05:00 nojitosunrise wrote:
So US immigration offices now considers Riot + LoL to be a "sport" when giving out visas.

http://www.gamespot.com/league-of-legends/videos/riots-magus-and-nick-allen-talk-tournament-format-and-more-6411345/

This is freaking amazing


Very much so. Good to see that those "visa" problems will decline as a reason for people not being able to get places.
FSKi
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United States901 Posts
July 13 2013 00:27 GMT
#89
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AsnSensation
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany24009 Posts
July 13 2013 00:33 GMT
#90
On July 13 2013 09:27 FSKi wrote:
So is October 4th the date of when the final tournament starts, or the final day of the tournament. I really need some more info before I book a plane ticket. Riot pls.


Staples 4th october is only the Grand Finals (assuming 1 Bo5)

Groupstages will be played at an unknown venue, Quarter+Semis at Galen Center (Last years finals venue for Frost vs TPA)

I think groupstages start on Sep 16th already.
BlueBird.
Profile Joined August 2008
United States3890 Posts
July 13 2013 00:44 GMT
#91
I wish the whole tournament was in one weekend, it would make travelling more appealing.
Currently Playing: Android Netrunner, Gwent, Gloomhaven, Board Games
FSKi
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United States901 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-13 00:56:20
July 13 2013 00:56 GMT
#92
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wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
July 13 2013 01:59 GMT
#93
On July 13 2013 09:56 FSKi wrote:
Riot is incentivizing their fans not to attend the event. Spending money on 3 weeks worth of hotel/food/transportation and airfare would cost around $4000-$5000 USD. On top of that, they hold their event when a lot of people have to be in school. I was really excited to go to this event, but the logistics of the event are so horrendous that I can't. Why on earth would anyone spend so much money when the online broadcast would probably be a better experience?

Sports works the same.
liftlift > tsm
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
July 13 2013 02:03 GMT
#94
On July 13 2013 09:56 FSKi wrote:
Riot is incentivizing their fans not to attend the event. Spending money on 3 weeks worth of hotel/food/transportation and airfare would cost around $4000-$5000 USD. On top of that, they hold their event when a lot of people have to be in school. I was really excited to go to this event, but the logistics of the event are so horrendous that I can't. Why on earth would anyone spend so much money when the online broadcast would probably be a better experience?

Can't tell if serious...

No one is expecting you to attend all three weeks. I live in California and I only attended the Finals last year. If anything, the three week window provides more flexibility for those who have to travel to compare costs, etc.
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Mensol
Profile Joined September 2012
14536 Posts
July 13 2013 02:23 GMT
#95
Wildcard tournament is all about Turkish and Brazil team imo. Dark Passage and paiN play some quality LoL. i think they can put a good fight against NA teams.
If you don't know what the fuck you are doing, how are your enemies supposed to know what the fuck you are doing. - imaqtpie on NA teams at Worlds.
FSKi
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United States901 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-13 04:01:08
July 13 2013 03:58 GMT
#96
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wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
July 13 2013 04:39 GMT
#97
On July 13 2013 12:58 FSKi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 13 2013 11:03 NeoIllusions wrote:
On July 13 2013 09:56 FSKi wrote:
Riot is incentivizing their fans not to attend the event. Spending money on 3 weeks worth of hotel/food/transportation and airfare would cost around $4000-$5000 USD. On top of that, they hold their event when a lot of people have to be in school. I was really excited to go to this event, but the logistics of the event are so horrendous that I can't. Why on earth would anyone spend so much money when the online broadcast would probably be a better experience?

Can't tell if serious...

No one is expecting you to attend all three weeks. I live in California and I only attended the Finals last year. If anything, the three week window provides more flexibility for those who have to travel to compare costs, etc.


I guess I'm just upset that it's not the all-inclusive experience I was looking for in such an event. I mean if it were a normal LAN tournament over one weekend, I'd gladly pay to see all the matches live. But if I'm only flying in to see the finals, I don't think its worth it, personally.

Superbowl not worth it?
liftlift > tsm
FSKi
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United States901 Posts
July 13 2013 04:52 GMT
#98
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wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
July 13 2013 04:54 GMT
#99
On July 13 2013 13:52 FSKi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 13 2013 13:39 wei2coolman wrote:
On July 13 2013 12:58 FSKi wrote:
On July 13 2013 11:03 NeoIllusions wrote:
On July 13 2013 09:56 FSKi wrote:
Riot is incentivizing their fans not to attend the event. Spending money on 3 weeks worth of hotel/food/transportation and airfare would cost around $4000-$5000 USD. On top of that, they hold their event when a lot of people have to be in school. I was really excited to go to this event, but the logistics of the event are so horrendous that I can't. Why on earth would anyone spend so much money when the online broadcast would probably be a better experience?

Can't tell if serious...

No one is expecting you to attend all three weeks. I live in California and I only attended the Finals last year. If anything, the three week window provides more flexibility for those who have to travel to compare costs, etc.


I guess I'm just upset that it's not the all-inclusive experience I was looking for in such an event. I mean if it were a normal LAN tournament over one weekend, I'd gladly pay to see all the matches live. But if I'm only flying in to see the finals, I don't think its worth it, personally.

Superbowl not worth it?


You can't compare the two, really. The reason the Super Bowl is 2 weeks after the rest of the playoffs is to let players rest from a long grueling season of physical labor. This isn't really there in LoL, and I see no reason other than drawing in more stream viewers and ad revenue, for the extended playoff.

But if I'm only flying in to see the finals, I don't think its worth it, personally.

I'm saying such a sporting event does happen; only 1 final? But tons of people fly in just for it.

If anything compared to any sports; it's extremely affordable to attend and watch all the playoffs and the final.
liftlift > tsm
FSKi
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United States901 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-13 04:59:32
July 13 2013 04:58 GMT
#100
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