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United States23745 Posts
On July 13 2013 13:58 FSKi wrote:Show nested quote +On July 13 2013 13:54 wei2coolman wrote:On July 13 2013 13:52 FSKi wrote:On July 13 2013 13:39 wei2coolman wrote:On July 13 2013 12:58 FSKi wrote:On July 13 2013 11:03 NeoIllusions wrote:On July 13 2013 09:56 FSKi wrote:
Riot is incentivizing their fans not to attend the event. Spending money on 3 weeks worth of hotel/food/transportation and airfare would cost around $4000-$5000 USD. On top of that, they hold their event when a lot of people have to be in school. I was really excited to go to this event, but the logistics of the event are so horrendous that I can't. Why on earth would anyone spend so much money when the online broadcast would probably be a better experience? Can't tell if serious... No one is expecting you to attend all three weeks. I live in California and I only attended the Finals last year. If anything, the three week window provides more flexibility for those who have to travel to compare costs, etc. I guess I'm just upset that it's not the all-inclusive experience I was looking for in such an event. I mean if it were a normal LAN tournament over one weekend, I'd gladly pay to see all the matches live. But if I'm only flying in to see the finals, I don't think its worth it, personally. Superbowl not worth it? You can't compare the two, really. The reason the Super Bowl is 2 weeks after the rest of the playoffs is to let players rest from a long grueling season of physical labor. This isn't really there in LoL, and I see no reason other than drawing in more stream viewers and ad revenue, for the extended playoff. But if I'm only flying in to see the finals, I don't think its worth it, personally. I'm saying such a sporting event does happen; only 1 final? But tons of people fly in just for it. If anything compared to any sports; it's extremely affordable to attend and watch all the playoffs and the final. Yeah that's a good point. It being centralized does reduce overall travel cost. However, if we want to do a direct comparison to something more relevant, as a consumer I'd much rather go to an event such as DotA's The International, where I would get much more value for the cost, in terms of number of games played.
I agree with this sentiment. If I go to anything it will probably be the finals, but I would love to be able to watch the entire thing in person.
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I think breaking it down into multiple weeks draws in a lot more attention; and helps really develop story lines. It also gives teams a lot more time to prep; Though I can understand the sentiment of not being to see more games; considering how much LoL content is being popped out per week; I think it's really nice for a slower pace for a playoff.
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I just want the LCS to come to the midwest...like ever.
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United States23745 Posts
For real. I want to go to a live tournament so badly ._.
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BRING A TOURNAMENT TO HAWAII THO
For real it's lonely down in paradise =//
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Tournament location request?
Sri lanka plox.
Or at least the UK when i go home :D
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On July 13 2013 17:29 ZERG_RUSSIAN wrote:
BRING A TOURNAMENT TO HAWAII THO
For real it's lonely down in paradise =//
Hilo plox. Edith Kanakaole Stadium.
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Ya rite hawaiian
try Hawaii Convention Center or the Blaisedell 
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On July 12 2013 17:18 Letmelose wrote:This is how I feel about it. If Riot is unable to judge accurately at which point a game is over (I'm suspecting this is the case), a re-game should be done every single time regardless of the circumstances. Once a re-game is decided, all teams should be given a clean slate to start-off with, and be given at least an extra day of preparation, so that they can recuperate from the mishap, and do their best to start-off from the cut-off point of the series.
While this is a perfectly reasonable suggestion, Riot only hires out these venues for a specific amount of time. The cost of getting an extra day would be astronomical and ruin months of planning and advertising on Riots part.
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Holy crap its been almost a year since last time already. So who am I seeing at this years finals?
Cant break the combo, gotta go to all the worlds 
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Pitcairn19291 Posts
On July 13 2013 14:14 cLutZ wrote:
I just want the LCS to come to the midwest...like ever.
Yes plz.
Are most of the games slated for the weekends? Or weekdays too? If one were to go watch live, what would be the best time to do so?
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On July 13 2013 11:23 Mensol wrote:
Wildcard tournament is all about Turkish and Brazil team imo. Dark Passage and paiN play some quality LoL. i think they can put a good fight against NA teams.
I thought the wildcard tournament was for all the regions not covered by the standard allocations (OCE, Turkey, Brazil, non-Gambit Russia).
I must have missed some...
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Just on the location, I would just like them to announce the logistics a bit earlier. It would be easier if it was a shorter length, but you can generally work out where and when you want to attend if you have enough notice and can prepare adequately. Not sure if this is feasible but it would certainly be helpful.
I'm planning a big trip next year for the finals. It's very difficult (and expensive) to book flights/accommodation/leave when you don't even know what country you will be flying to until 3 months prior.
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United States23745 Posts
On July 16 2013 11:54 Amarok wrote:Show nested quote +On July 13 2013 11:23 Mensol wrote:
Wildcard tournament is all about Turkish and Brazil team imo. Dark Passage and paiN play some quality LoL. i think they can put a good fight against NA teams.
I thought the wildcard tournament was for all the regions not covered by the standard allocations (OCE, Turkey, Brazil, non-Gambit Russia). I must have missed some...
I think he means those are the teams to watch in that tournament.
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On July 16 2013 11:58 onlywonderboy wrote:Show nested quote +On July 16 2013 11:54 Amarok wrote:On July 13 2013 11:23 Mensol wrote:
Wildcard tournament is all about Turkish and Brazil team imo. Dark Passage and paiN play some quality LoL. i think they can put a good fight against NA teams.
I thought the wildcard tournament was for all the regions not covered by the standard allocations (OCE, Turkey, Brazil, non-Gambit Russia). I must have missed some... I think he means those are the teams to watch in that tournament.
Ahhh...
I really hope Immunity make it. They're on another level down here and I'd love to see how they stack up against the rest of the world. Also, #strayapride.
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Okay, time for some predictions now that many of the qualification stages are set in motion.
1) North America: 3 entries
Method of entry: As far as I know, the first placed team in the play-offs for the LCS Summer Season gains a direct bye into the round of eight, while I presume the second, and third placed teams in the play-offs will each be placed in different groups.
Predictions: Cloud9 seems to have some of the most fluid decision making and team-fighting ability in the region, and are my pick to gain the direct seed into the round of eight. Team Vulcun has decent laning, and team fighting ability, but lacks smart game managament, however it's hard to argue against them gaining one of the remaining two spots. The last remaining spot is really hard to predict for me, but I'm going with Counter Logic Gaming due to their distinct style of play becoming more and more refined as time passes by. Hoping for some of the residents here to put forth their own predictions.
2) Europe: 3 entries
Method of entry: I believe it's pretty much the same format as the one for North America. However, the major difference is that all three representatives of this region will have to start off from the group stages. Perhaps the first placed team will be separated from the rest of the European representatives, in a two to one split, but it's all guesswork.
Predictions: I'm really struggling to grasp the hierachy between the teams in this region, even more so than North America. However, if I were to choose, I'll pick Ninjas in Pyjamas first. I'm not impressed at all by MYM, Evil Geniuses (although the team re-organization may change things), and SK Gaming, and don't think any of them will qualify. I'm really struggling to gauge the potential of Lemondogs, and Team Alternate without their starting AD carry. Which is why I'll go with the boring, uninspired route picking Gambit Gaming, and Fnatic as the remaining European participants.
3) Taiwan: 1 entry
Method of entry: The qualifications has already begun, and the sole representative will gain a bye into the round of eight.
http://leaguepedia.com/wiki/Season_3_Taiwan_Regional_Finals
Predictions: AHQ e-Sports Club, and Gamania Bears have performed better than I imagined so far, while the new team for Azubu Taipei Assassins looks completely underwhelming. I have watched maybe ten minutes of this region's qualifiers in total, so my predictions are basically worthless, but I'm still going with Azubu Taipei Snipers for my final pick.
4) South East Asia: 1 entry
Method of entry: I have no idea how the tournament will be set-up, and what its scheduling will be like.
Predictions: Singapore Sentinels? They looked fairly solid in the GPL, but Saigon Jokers seems to be a team capable of creating upsets, which will make things interesting.
5) China: 2 entries
Method of entry: Could anyone clarify the situation for me? As far as I know, it's two teams who placed top two in the regular season for the LPL Spring Season (Invictus Gaming and OMG), and then the top two teams for the regular season of the LPL Summer Season (excluding the placements of Invictus Gaming, and OMG perhaps?), that will be included in a final qualification tournament. So it's four teams battling it out for two spots? Then the finals of that tournament will decide who gets to be seeded into the round of eight. If this is so, it doesn't quite make sense to me, since the play-offs are redundant from a competitive point of view, and teams battling for two final two spots are at an advantage since there are only six teams (assuming they don't reward Invictus Gaming, and OMG if they finish two top again), compared to the eight teams who competed for two spots in the spring season.
Predictions: OMG looked to be a cut above the rest in terms of decision making, and overall game management. However, the scene is quite hard to predict since it has progressed from the days when World Elite, and Invictus Gaming had monopoly over everyone else. If I were to choose, I'd pick OMG for the first place, and I have a gut feeling that Team WE will still somehow persevere.
6) Korea: 3 entries
Method of qualification: The first placed team in terms of cumulative circuit points starting from the winter season from last year will be seeded directly into the round of eight, while the second placed team will be introduced to the group stages. The final spot will be decided by a separately run play-offs round, in which the sixth placed team and the fifth placed team will start off the tournament, with the eventual finalist of this tournament duking it out against the third placed team, who gets a bye into the finals.
http://www.inven.co.kr/board/powerbbs.php?come_idx=2744&l=1988
Predictions: I'm expecting one of Najin Black Sword, or MVP Ozone to gain the most circuit points by the end of the summer season. MVP Ozone might take the first placed spot, and Najin Black Sword will most likely place in the top two due to their current lead in terms of circuit points. I have a feeling that CJ Entus Blaze will suffer another heart-break two years in a row at the hands of SK Telecom T1 in the wildcard rounds.
7) International Wildcard: 1 entry
Method of entry: If what I read from Leaguepedia is to be trusted, one team each from Brazil, Russia, Latin America, Turkey, and Oceania will battle it out at Gamescom for a single spot.
Predictions: I only know of paiN Gaming due to their IEM appearances, and I think it's best to leave the predictions for this to the experts.
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I was watching one of the Brazilian tournaments earlier; they actually looked pretty competent. They got my vote in grabbing international wildcard.
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Australia18228 Posts
On July 16 2013 13:00 Amarok wrote:Show nested quote +On July 16 2013 11:58 onlywonderboy wrote:On July 16 2013 11:54 Amarok wrote:On July 13 2013 11:23 Mensol wrote:
Wildcard tournament is all about Turkish and Brazil team imo. Dark Passage and paiN play some quality LoL. i think they can put a good fight against NA teams.
I thought the wildcard tournament was for all the regions not covered by the standard allocations (OCE, Turkey, Brazil, non-Gambit Russia). I must have missed some... I think he means those are the teams to watch in that tournament. Ahhh... I really hope Immunity make it. They're on another level down here and I'd love to see how they stack up against the rest of the world. Also, #strayapride.
Even though Immunity's the best team in Australia/Oceania, they are still nowhere near the rest of the world. Their team coordination isn't that good and their strategies are predictable... they're just a team with 5 of the best players in AU.
I don't think they could even compete against challenger NA teams.
edit: Immunity might not even make it to Gamescom, Exile5 Eclipse has a good shot of knocking them out.
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+ Show Spoiler +On July 16 2013 19:42 Letmelose wrote:Okay, time for some predictions now that many of the qualification stages are set in motion. 1) North America: 3 entries Method of entry: As far as I know, the first placed team in the play-offs for the LCS Summer Season gains a direct bye into the round of eight, while I presume the second, and third placed teams in the play-offs will each be placed in different groups. Predictions: Cloud9 seems to have some of the most fluid decision making and team-fighting ability in the region, and are my pick to gain the direct seed into the round of eight. Team Vulcun has decent laning, and team fighting ability, but lacks smart game managament, however it's hard to argue against them gaining one of the remaining two spots. The last remaining spot is really hard to predict for me, but I'm going with Counter Logic Gaming due to their distinct style of play becoming more and more refined as time passes by. Hoping for some of the residents here to put forth their own predictions. 2) Europe: 3 entries Method of entry: I believe it's pretty much the same format as the one for North America. However, the major difference is that all three representatives of this region will have to start off from the group stages. Perhaps the first placed team will be separated from the rest of the European representatives, in a two to one split, but it's all guesswork. Predictions: I'm really struggling to grasp the hierachy between the teams in this region, even more so than North America. However, if I were to choose, I'll pick Ninjas in Pyjamas first. I'm not impressed at all by MYM, Evil Geniuses (although the team re-organization may change things), and SK Gaming, and don't think any of them will qualify. I'm really struggling to gauge the potential of Lemondogs, and Team Alternate without their starting AD carry. Which is why I'll go with the boring, uninspired route picking Gambit Gaming, and Fnatic as the remaining European participants. 3) Taiwan: 1 entry Method of entry: The qualifications has already begun, and the sole representative will gain a bye into the round of eight. http://leaguepedia.com/wiki/Season_3_Taiwan_Regional_FinalsPredictions: AHQ e-Sports Club, and Gamania Bears have performed better than I imagined so far, while the new team for Azubu Taipei Assassins looks completely underwhelming. I have watched maybe ten minutes of this region's qualifiers in total, so my predictions are basically worthless, but I'm still going with Azubu Taipei Snipers for my final pick. 4) South East Asia: 1 entry Method of entry: I have no idea how the tournament will be set-up, and what its scheduling will be like. Predictions: Singapore Sentinels? They looked fairly solid in the GPL, but Saigon Jokers seems to be a team capable of creating upsets, which will make things interesting. 5) China: 2 entries Method of entry: Could anyone clarify the situation for me? As far as I know, it's two teams who placed top two in the regular season for the LPL Spring Season (Invictus Gaming and OMG), and then the top two teams for the regular season of the LPL Summer Season (excluding the placements of Invictus Gaming, and OMG perhaps?), that will be included in a final qualification tournament. So it's four teams battling it out for two spots? Then the finals of that tournament will decide who gets to be seeded into the round of eight. If this is so, it doesn't quite make sense to me, since the play-offs are redundant from a competitive point of view, and teams battling for two final two spots are at an advantage since there are only six teams (assuming they don't reward Invictus Gaming, and OMG if they finish two top again), compared to the eight teams who competed for two spots in the spring season. Predictions: OMG looked to be a cut above the rest in terms of decision making, and overall game management. However, the scene is quite hard to predict since it has progressed from the days when World Elite, and Invictus Gaming had monopoly over everyone else. If I were to choose, I'd pick OMG for the first place, and I have a gut feeling that Team WE will still somehow persevere. 6) Korea: 3 entries Method of qualification: The first placed team in terms of cumulative circuit points starting from the winter season from last year will be seeded directly into the round of eight, while the second placed team will be introduced to the group stages. The final spot will be decided by a separately run play-offs round, in which the sixth placed team and the fifth placed team will start off the tournament, with the eventual finalist of this tournament duking it out against the third placed team, who gets a bye into the finals. http://www.inven.co.kr/board/powerbbs.php?come_idx=2744&l=1988Predictions: I'm expecting one of Najin Black Sword, or MVP Ozone to gain the most circuit points by the end of the summer season. MVP Ozone might take the first placed spot, and Najin Black Sword will most likely place in the top two due to their current lead in terms of circuit points. I have a feeling that CJ Entus Blaze will suffer another heart-break two years in a row at the hands of SK Telecom T1 in the wildcard rounds. 7) International Wildcard: 1 entry Method of entry: If what I read from Leaguepedia is to be trusted, one team each from Brazil, Russia, Latin America, Turkey, and Oceania will battle it out at Gamescom for a single spot. Predictions: I only know of paiN Gaming due to their IEM appearances, and I think it's best to leave the predictions for this to the experts.
1) North America
As much as I dont want to see them in there I am pretty sure TSM will manage to grab a spot. Of course I also assume they wont be doing any more major roster changes or anything similar to shake themselves out of order now that worlds are closing in. Cloud 9, will most likely go as well, if they can keep their 1st place remains to be seen as more teams figure them out (or looks to the koreans and counters them with their own old-korean meta). As for the 3rd spot it is hard, as it looks atm the competitors for this would be Vulcun and CLG, and I think when it comes down to it CLG just manages to pull through under stress. Vulcun could do it as well, but Im giving it to CLG.
3: C9, TSM, CLG
2) Europe
This region is really odd atm, the previous split champion in Fnatic just had a roster change, and that could affect their regular season into just narrowly not making worlds again. Alternate is weird in that they lose to Fnatic (although with alternate having a sub), they have good days and bad days. Alternate will make it through based on having a really good day or not. Gambit, actually looks like a real candidate again, overall strong, although they get shat on by super aggressive strats. Will people figure that out after watching them play Lemondogs? I dont know, It would not surprise me if people decided to just keep playing passive strats like EU loves to do. Problem with calling EU teams, in my opinion, is that there are a load of teams now that could make it if they had a good day. (rulling out SK, MyM and EG, they are all close to each other in w/l so not sure which one makes it to playoffs in the end). NiP looks surprisingly strong, and so does Lemondogs, although LD seems to not be solid, and NiP looks the strongest of the 2 and Id have to give it to them in the end.
3: Gambit, NiP, Fnatic (Alternate, LD and Fnatic can all make it based on a good or bad day, but I think Fnatic comes out on top in terms of experience)
3) Taiwan
From looking at some of the matches in the region recently and seeing AHQ primarily looking like a team that relies way to much on Westdoor and GT to carry them Id have to give the region to TPS. They look solid enough to beat anyone else going into the tourney. Gmania could potentially be good, but TPS wins in terms of experience and solidity (?)
1: Taipei Snipers
4) SEA
I havent been following this scene to much in a while now (since Digibet stopped having bets on GPL and other SEA tournies QQ) but looking at the general rankings SGS is the clear favorite, followed by SJ. Jokers could make an upset again this year, as for the other teams in the region: gonna be totally honest when I say that they are major disappointmens. BKT hasnt been first in the Thailand "LCS" in its 2 first months and while they stay #2 overall, they arent doing good in the 3rd month either. KLH has crazy cheesy tactics from time to time and Id love to see them make it beyond their own region, but lets be frank, they are horrible.
1. SGS or SJ (just cause I want the Viet Pres to come out to S3 worlds)
5) China
Watching OMGs dominating performance in the first split of the China's LPL I am going to say that they make it through the qualifiers for worlds. Behind that there are a lot of good teams now that could make it, old glory in WE and IG, newer teams like LMQ and Royal (personally love to see Uzi and Tabe make it to worlds), but when it comes down to the qualifying matches I am kinda moving towards WE making it. Equal to CLG they seem to do well in stress situations, they will have to adapt their tactics abit though as their strats have been "figured out" in by the other Chinese teams. If they can do that, and still look solid under pressure they will make it.
2. OMG, WE
6) Korea
MVP Ozone, they are looking strong this OGN round allready, while Im not convinced that New Najin B is strong enough to take the 1st spot. And if they cant do that they will have to play against the likes of Frost (now with a roster to play whatever they want to beat teams) and Blaze (who seems to have gotten some of their mojo back) and everyone else, We know that Korea is probably the scariest scene in terms of total numbers of teams that could compete at a top level world wide. Im going to put it down to experience coming out on top in the end and give it to Blaze and SKT T1 going through. Frost is and always have been a strong and scary team that looks good under pressure, but they havent impressed anyone as of yet. The wildcard from Korea would be SKT T1, I believe they can make it if they repeat their success from the last round of OGN. and they seem to be strong already (basing of the 2 games they have had might be to little info atm, but they didnt look any weaker so far at least).
3. MVP, SKT T1, Blaze
7) Wildcard
No Idea, would be cool to see Immunity make it (or whoever qualifes from the down-under Western server) so they could be the American hope when the American teams losses but PaiN could take it, they arent bad iirc. Other than that I have no clue (although the Turkish teams didnt look to strong and I have no idea who would be coming from Russia, Empire?)
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