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PrinceXizor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States17713 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-30 09:50:49
July 30 2013 09:49 GMT
#6581
On July 30 2013 18:42 Don_Julio wrote:

This is relevant for your Skarner discussion and your grudge with Guitar.

If someone isn't understanding what i'm saying i will tell them that they aren't understanding. I'm sorry if that offends people. i even tried to clarify beforehand in case it was me, turns out it was not. as for guitar, if he wants to bring up a game he played long ago against me which clearly we are the two best people to decide what works for top lane based solely on our match. then i can bring up his team's laughable LCS run. He knows his team isn't performing well, So if he wants to talk about a 1v1 he beat me in to try to shame me, i can discuss the shame his team is feeling. besides he hasn't shown one thing in the year i've been reading lol GD to make me respect him, other than his policy toward recruitment, which is quite admirable.
Badboyrune
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Sweden2247 Posts
July 30 2013 09:52 GMT
#6582
Man I wish there was some way for me to aquire popcorn at work
"If yellow does start SC2, I should start handsomenerd diaper busniess and become a rich man" - John the Translator
FSKi
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United States901 Posts
July 30 2013 09:55 GMT
#6583
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De4ngus
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States6533 Posts
July 30 2013 09:56 GMT
#6584
this forum is the best
GANDHISAUCE
vvSiegvv
Profile Joined March 2010
United States364 Posts
July 30 2013 09:56 GMT
#6585
Real quick while I'm heating up my popcorn, does anybody use the TL teamspeak here? I've popped in a few times but haven't seen too many people on, so wasn't sure how active it is.
gtrsrs
Profile Joined June 2010
United States9109 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-30 09:59:43
July 30 2013 09:57 GMT
#6586
this forum IS the best
i play ... hearthstone =\^.^/= Winterfox
Lysteria
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
France2280 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-30 10:01:33
July 30 2013 10:00 GMT
#6587
I'll bet all my salty bucks on Skarner, sorry gtrsrs
edit: Skarner the discussion bringer.
PrinceXizor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States17713 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-30 10:01:28
July 30 2013 10:01 GMT
#6588
On July 30 2013 19:00 Lysteria wrote:
I'll bet all my salty bucks on Skarner, sorry gtrsrs

I mean ones a giant crystal scorpion, the others just a dude with no powers whatsoever, gotta take the scorpion man.
FSKi
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United States901 Posts
July 30 2013 10:12 GMT
#6589
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schmutttt
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Australia3856 Posts
July 30 2013 10:14 GMT
#6590
Xizor pls it was nicer here without your rubbish posts
ShloobeR
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Korea (South)3828 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-30 10:22:50
July 30 2013 10:22 GMT
#6591
On July 30 2013 19:12 FSKi wrote:
Maru raped innovation so fast that I can get a 2-3 hour head start on leveling my Latin America North smurf. They really should rename it to the US east server though. It's in Miami, and I get 15 ping. This compared to their LA server where I average 100+. I just wish there were more English speakers. Whenever I type anything in English, all 4 people on my team call me a gringo.


So they should re-name it US east despite the fact that people call you gringo for using English.

wat

Edit: Admittedly that is kind of US eastish but if you go to the latin american server this is probably expected :[
: o )
FSKi
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United States901 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-30 10:23:30
July 30 2013 10:22 GMT
#6592
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Capricious_LoL
Profile Joined December 2012
United States222 Posts
July 30 2013 10:30 GMT
#6593
On July 30 2013 17:55 XilDarkz wrote:
I play mid or jungle, and if I'm not let solo mid, I go duo mid. I have a decent win-rate when going duo mid. Now that I'm Gold5 though, I might start trying Elise/Rengar top so that I can go top as well--but I feel that mid and jungle allow me to do far more in a game.

My viewpoint is still the same--I have the goal of getting Diamond 1 -> Challenger. Settle for nothing less--however, my approach has changed significantly. I have learned how much the League community stresses solo queue and the drastic difference in the way that League players improve compared to how Dota players improve. I feel that League's ecosystem is far worse to improve in rapidly, but, as an NA based player and League's position as the easiest of the games, I have the best chance of being a pro gamer here. (This is the same general thinking I posted earlier in this thread with.)

I have been constantly examining how I play my heroes (specifically Syndra of course) and adjusted my play significantly since I started posting here, and as a result, have started my steady progression that I will commit and continue until I reach Diamond 1.


Regardless of it being true or not, don't you think it's tactless to come to a League forum and pronounce it as the easiest of the games? (out of what games?)

I used to play wc3 Dota, and regarded LoL as an easy game with cartoonish graphics... I now realize how hard this game is and how much there is to think about even though there's less pure mechanics. No matter the game, going pro is hard.

Solo queue is not stressed, it is a bare minimum that you should demonstrate if you want to be a progamer. Teams like The Salad Bar didn't play solo queue and were/are competitive.

We are now advanced enough into Season 3 that you can divide everyone into 2 categories:

1. People who have never reached challenger and are incapable of doing so.

You should not have progamer aspirations here.

2. People who have reached challenger or its equivalent before removal of visible Elo or who are capable of doing so.

Basically everyone on an LCS team is here. If you see some pros who appear to be stuck in Diamond, most of the time, it is because they don't care. Out of the old guard teams like CLG/TSM, everyone was at one point or another at the very top of the ladder. They have nothing to prove in solo queue, they treat solo queue games like I treat my double jungle normal games with friends. If everyone tried equally hard in solo queue, the ladder would look very different.

When you think about it, reaching challenger is not very impressive. This pool of players is actually quite large. Even as a middling Diamond 1, through variance and luck, or your best champions get buffed, or whatever, you could conceivably hit challenger. Having progaming aspirations without reaching challenger is like going to Korea to compete in SC2 when you aren't even GM in NA.

...

Playing support or playing all the roles is a great way to improve your understanding of the game. Don't do anymore of that Duo mid shit.
NA LoL: Capriciøus
chinstrap
Profile Joined April 2011
United Kingdom253 Posts
July 30 2013 10:44 GMT
#6594
I am having some serious success recently with Darius top purple side.

I just hit gold 5 and basically every game I can wait for them to facecheck the brush en route to lane after covering blue. Auto > auto > W > auto auto basically forces every other top laner out of lane, sometimes including a blown flash. If they stand and trade they just die (only maybe riven can match the dmg at lvl 1). Then I have like a 2 level advantage where i can just flash hook for a free fb when they come back to lane. People seriously underestimate the darius early level deeps!

Also i am yet to find a truly rough matchup when i start reju + 5 hp pots + 1 mana pot + ward. You can even bully teemo post lvl 3.

I imagine as i get higher elo people will see this sort of cheese coming more and will stop trying to trade with me in melee range... Oh well, abusing it while i can!
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-30 10:48:34
July 30 2013 10:48 GMT
#6595
Be careful of relying on that facecheck. Later on people never go through that brush unless they see their opposite laner appear. Don't think it's ever healthy to rely on cheese to climb up
Amui
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada10567 Posts
July 30 2013 10:52 GMT
#6596
On July 30 2013 19:48 Numy wrote:
Be careful of relying on that facecheck. Later on people never go through that brush unless they see their opposite laner appear. Don't think it's ever healthy to rely on cheese to climb up


Later on people don't go through that bush if they can't win the fight at level 1*

Generally once you get higher, people know power levels well enough to make a judgement call on whether or not to go into that bush.
Porouscloud - NA LoL
sob3k
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States7572 Posts
July 30 2013 10:53 GMT
#6597
The sheer amount of people playing Leagues make it not the easiest game. If it was indeed easy and 32million people play it a month you have basically no chance whatsoever to distinguish yourself and become pro. You should hope it is instead very hard.
In Hungry Hungry Hippos there are no such constraints—one can constantly attempt to collect marbles with one’s hippo, limited only by one’s hippo-levering capabilities.
schmutttt
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Australia3856 Posts
July 30 2013 10:55 GMT
#6598
On July 30 2013 19:44 chinstrap wrote:
I am having some serious success recently with Darius top purple side.

I just hit gold 5 and basically every game I can wait for them to facecheck the brush en route to lane after covering blue. Auto > auto > W > auto auto basically forces every other top laner out of lane, sometimes including a blown flash. If they stand and trade they just die (only maybe riven can match the dmg at lvl 1). Then I have like a 2 level advantage where i can just flash hook for a free fb when they come back to lane. People seriously underestimate the darius early level deeps!

Also i am yet to find a truly rough matchup when i start reju + 5 hp pots + 1 mana pot + ward. You can even bully teemo post lvl 3.

I imagine as i get higher elo people will see this sort of cheese coming more and will stop trying to trade with me in melee range... Oh well, abusing it while i can!


Have you versed an udyr yet?
Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23335 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-30 10:55:49
July 30 2013 10:55 GMT
#6599
skarner was strong when you could abuse R wasting flashes and shurelyas was really strong, so flash ulting was super obnoxious and had very little counterplay.

now that both of those are fixed they need to revert nerfs like the w and q nerfs and make his e useful and he'll be strong again
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
July 30 2013 10:59 GMT
#6600
On July 30 2013 19:52 Amui wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 30 2013 19:48 Numy wrote:
Be careful of relying on that facecheck. Later on people never go through that brush unless they see their opposite laner appear. Don't think it's ever healthy to rely on cheese to climb up


Later on people don't go through that bush if they can't win the fight at level 1*

Generally once you get higher, people know power levels well enough to make a judgement call on whether or not to go into that bush.


Yea I meant if you can't win the 1v1 but you see the laner then you can go through the brush fine.
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