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Nick!
Profile Joined March 2011
Scotland701 Posts
July 20 2013 18:23 GMT
#3301
On July 21 2013 01:21 johnnywup wrote:
So I'm at comic con and yesterday I met a few riot employees and got some riot graves and full metal rammus skins. :D also got a signed Zyra print and today there's going to be signed SGU prints. Pretty cool.


That's sweet, free stuff is the best. I hate that there's no cool event's like that in the UK
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35145 Posts
July 20 2013 18:51 GMT
#3302
On July 21 2013 01:12 canikizu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 20 2013 21:55 overt wrote:
On July 20 2013 21:53 nafta wrote:
On July 20 2013 21:51 overt wrote:
I feel like the Crs Academy changes are likely due to a few things. Their results haven't been super stellar lately. FXO and Complexity both look stronger than Crs Academy and personally I think Aware is better than them too. Not that it matters because Altec and Pobelter are both too young to compete in LCS so the team can't even qualify. The changes are likely designed to make them more competitive while giving them a roster that can attempt to qualify at relegations.


But since crs is in lcs they can't have 2 teams in lcs and I really doubt they would lose in relegation.Seems kinda pointless imo.


Didn't stop TSM from basically having two teams. Not to mention there's no guarantee Curse's main line up will stay in the LCS and they have enough money to support two teams.

From their website,
With this new roster Curse Academy will become a strong contender for a spot in LCS, and a threat to win any event. We at Curse are saddened that this will mean the departure from Curse of long time players Pobelter, and Altec. They are both amazing players, and we are confident they will have continued success wherever their competitive careers take them. The new lineup is a work in progress, but will be 100% committed to qualifying for the LCS in Season 4 and winning every amateur circuit event along the way. Curse Academy will be playing the MOBAFire Challenger Series, where they are already 2-1, and will compete in the online LCS Qualifier tournament for PAX Prime.

http://www.teamcurse.net/

So is it really that TSM and C9 are sister teams? Their result seems vastly different that it's hard to think TSM is the one that practice with C9.


They scrim each other a lot, but they aren't sister teams.
onlywonderboy
Profile Joined August 2012
United States23745 Posts
July 20 2013 19:08 GMT
#3303
On July 21 2013 03:18 AsmodeusXI wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 21 2013 03:08 Alaric wrote:
On July 21 2013 02:23 onlywonderboy wrote:
On July 21 2013 01:30 TheYango wrote:
It took me like 3 days to realize SGU stood for Spirit Guard Udyr.

It also took him a while to realize "owb" was short hand for my handle. Yango is bad at acronyms

You were "that Bjergsen fangirl" to me for awhile before Asmo addressing you this way took root.


You can still call him that. It's acceptable.

Yep, still true.
RIP Ryan Davis / TL or Die / @onlywonderboy
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
July 20 2013 19:11 GMT
#3304
On July 21 2013 01:12 canikizu wrote:
So is it really that TSM and C9 are sister teams? Their result seems vastly different that it's hard to think TSM is the one that practice with C9.

The best comparison would be the EG/Alliance relationship in DotA.

Also teams with similarly different results.
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wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-20 19:26:44
July 20 2013 19:25 GMT
#3305
On July 21 2013 04:08 onlywonderboy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 21 2013 03:18 AsmodeusXI wrote:
On July 21 2013 03:08 Alaric wrote:
On July 21 2013 02:23 onlywonderboy wrote:
On July 21 2013 01:30 TheYango wrote:
It took me like 3 days to realize SGU stood for Spirit Guard Udyr.

It also took him a while to realize "owb" was short hand for my handle. Yango is bad at acronyms

You were "that Bjergsen fangirl" to me for awhile before Asmo addressing you this way took root.


You can still call him that. It's acceptable.

Yep, still true.

You'll always be my fellow curse fanboi. Curse or die!

On July 21 2013 04:11 TheYango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 21 2013 01:12 canikizu wrote:
So is it really that TSM and C9 are sister teams? Their result seems vastly different that it's hard to think TSM is the one that practice with C9.

The best comparison would be the EG/Alliance relationship in DotA.

Also teams with similarly different results.

That's a more obscure Dota pro scene reference than what was originally explained for c9 and tsm. Lol.
liftlift > tsm
overt
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States9006 Posts
July 20 2013 19:48 GMT
#3306
On July 21 2013 01:12 canikizu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 20 2013 21:55 overt wrote:
On July 20 2013 21:53 nafta wrote:
On July 20 2013 21:51 overt wrote:
I feel like the Crs Academy changes are likely due to a few things. Their results haven't been super stellar lately. FXO and Complexity both look stronger than Crs Academy and personally I think Aware is better than them too. Not that it matters because Altec and Pobelter are both too young to compete in LCS so the team can't even qualify. The changes are likely designed to make them more competitive while giving them a roster that can attempt to qualify at relegations.


But since crs is in lcs they can't have 2 teams in lcs and I really doubt they would lose in relegation.Seems kinda pointless imo.


Didn't stop TSM from basically having two teams. Not to mention there's no guarantee Curse's main line up will stay in the LCS and they have enough money to support two teams.

From their website,
With this new roster Curse Academy will become a strong contender for a spot in LCS, and a threat to win any event. We at Curse are saddened that this will mean the departure from Curse of long time players Pobelter, and Altec. They are both amazing players, and we are confident they will have continued success wherever their competitive careers take them. The new lineup is a work in progress, but will be 100% committed to qualifying for the LCS in Season 4 and winning every amateur circuit event along the way. Curse Academy will be playing the MOBAFire Challenger Series, where they are already 2-1, and will compete in the online LCS Qualifier tournament for PAX Prime.

http://www.teamcurse.net/

So is it really that TSM and C9 are sister teams? Their result seems vastly different that it's hard to think TSM is the one that practice with C9.


A lot, if not most, of the Koreans have two teams with drastically different results. TSM is pretty average in the NA scene. Look at CJ Entus last season. Blaze dominated all season long until the finals whereas Frost looked pretty average in the Korean scene. You could find even more ridiculous examples with the two MVPs or Najin rosters.
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
July 20 2013 19:51 GMT
#3307
On July 21 2013 04:48 overt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 21 2013 01:12 canikizu wrote:
On July 20 2013 21:55 overt wrote:
On July 20 2013 21:53 nafta wrote:
On July 20 2013 21:51 overt wrote:
I feel like the Crs Academy changes are likely due to a few things. Their results haven't been super stellar lately. FXO and Complexity both look stronger than Crs Academy and personally I think Aware is better than them too. Not that it matters because Altec and Pobelter are both too young to compete in LCS so the team can't even qualify. The changes are likely designed to make them more competitive while giving them a roster that can attempt to qualify at relegations.


But since crs is in lcs they can't have 2 teams in lcs and I really doubt they would lose in relegation.Seems kinda pointless imo.


Didn't stop TSM from basically having two teams. Not to mention there's no guarantee Curse's main line up will stay in the LCS and they have enough money to support two teams.

From their website,
With this new roster Curse Academy will become a strong contender for a spot in LCS, and a threat to win any event. We at Curse are saddened that this will mean the departure from Curse of long time players Pobelter, and Altec. They are both amazing players, and we are confident they will have continued success wherever their competitive careers take them. The new lineup is a work in progress, but will be 100% committed to qualifying for the LCS in Season 4 and winning every amateur circuit event along the way. Curse Academy will be playing the MOBAFire Challenger Series, where they are already 2-1, and will compete in the online LCS Qualifier tournament for PAX Prime.

http://www.teamcurse.net/

So is it really that TSM and C9 are sister teams? Their result seems vastly different that it's hard to think TSM is the one that practice with C9.


A lot, if not most, of the Koreans have two teams with drastically different results. TSM is pretty average in the NA scene. Look at CJ Entus last season. Blaze dominated all season long until the finals whereas Frost looked pretty average in the Korean scene. You could find even more ridiculous examples with the two MVPs or Najin rosters.

The LG IM teams. hue.
liftlift > tsm
Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
July 20 2013 20:45 GMT
#3308
On July 21 2013 04:51 wei2coolman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 21 2013 04:48 overt wrote:
On July 21 2013 01:12 canikizu wrote:
On July 20 2013 21:55 overt wrote:
On July 20 2013 21:53 nafta wrote:
On July 20 2013 21:51 overt wrote:
I feel like the Crs Academy changes are likely due to a few things. Their results haven't been super stellar lately. FXO and Complexity both look stronger than Crs Academy and personally I think Aware is better than them too. Not that it matters because Altec and Pobelter are both too young to compete in LCS so the team can't even qualify. The changes are likely designed to make them more competitive while giving them a roster that can attempt to qualify at relegations.


But since crs is in lcs they can't have 2 teams in lcs and I really doubt they would lose in relegation.Seems kinda pointless imo.


Didn't stop TSM from basically having two teams. Not to mention there's no guarantee Curse's main line up will stay in the LCS and they have enough money to support two teams.

From their website,
With this new roster Curse Academy will become a strong contender for a spot in LCS, and a threat to win any event. We at Curse are saddened that this will mean the departure from Curse of long time players Pobelter, and Altec. They are both amazing players, and we are confident they will have continued success wherever their competitive careers take them. The new lineup is a work in progress, but will be 100% committed to qualifying for the LCS in Season 4 and winning every amateur circuit event along the way. Curse Academy will be playing the MOBAFire Challenger Series, where they are already 2-1, and will compete in the online LCS Qualifier tournament for PAX Prime.

http://www.teamcurse.net/

So is it really that TSM and C9 are sister teams? Their result seems vastly different that it's hard to think TSM is the one that practice with C9.


A lot, if not most, of the Koreans have two teams with drastically different results. TSM is pretty average in the NA scene. Look at CJ Entus last season. Blaze dominated all season long until the finals whereas Frost looked pretty average in the Korean scene. You could find even more ridiculous examples with the two MVPs or Najin rosters.

The LG IM teams. hue.


you mean MVP? Neither LG IM team is particularly notable although I guess you could say #2 doesn't have a mid laner that was 1v1'd by an Orianna as Ezreal.....
Carrilord has arrived.
canikizu
Profile Joined September 2010
4860 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-20 20:50:09
July 20 2013 20:47 GMT
#3309
On July 21 2013 04:11 TheYango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 21 2013 01:12 canikizu wrote:
So is it really that TSM and C9 are sister teams? Their result seems vastly different that it's hard to think TSM is the one that practice with C9.

The best comparison would be the EG/Alliance relationship in DotA.

Also teams with similarly different results.

EG and Alliance are 2 separate identities, and they're like FXO Korea and FXO, which have nothing to do with each other I think.

I was wondering about TSM and C9 because it was speculated that C9 was meant to be a sister team of TSM and was gonna move in TSM house. They are only in different proxy organizations because of LCS's rules.

And btw, does Altec stream? I've never seen the kid play before. People say he is good, but how good is he compared to current LCS NA adcs?
overt
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States9006 Posts
July 20 2013 20:50 GMT
#3310
I would not be surprised if the rules might change anyway. Especially if Curse tries to do exactly what TSM did. It still confuses me why Riot doesn't let NA/EU have two active teams under the same organization but is perfectly fine with Korea doing it.
kongoline
Profile Joined February 2012
6318 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-20 21:14:14
July 20 2013 21:07 GMT
#3311
is it me or jungle eve is completely retarded, i swear to god she can out duel me 1v1 as lee sin
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
July 20 2013 21:08 GMT
#3312
On July 21 2013 05:45 Slusher wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 21 2013 04:51 wei2coolman wrote:
On July 21 2013 04:48 overt wrote:
On July 21 2013 01:12 canikizu wrote:
On July 20 2013 21:55 overt wrote:
On July 20 2013 21:53 nafta wrote:
On July 20 2013 21:51 overt wrote:
I feel like the Crs Academy changes are likely due to a few things. Their results haven't been super stellar lately. FXO and Complexity both look stronger than Crs Academy and personally I think Aware is better than them too. Not that it matters because Altec and Pobelter are both too young to compete in LCS so the team can't even qualify. The changes are likely designed to make them more competitive while giving them a roster that can attempt to qualify at relegations.


But since crs is in lcs they can't have 2 teams in lcs and I really doubt they would lose in relegation.Seems kinda pointless imo.


Didn't stop TSM from basically having two teams. Not to mention there's no guarantee Curse's main line up will stay in the LCS and they have enough money to support two teams.

From their website,
With this new roster Curse Academy will become a strong contender for a spot in LCS, and a threat to win any event. We at Curse are saddened that this will mean the departure from Curse of long time players Pobelter, and Altec. They are both amazing players, and we are confident they will have continued success wherever their competitive careers take them. The new lineup is a work in progress, but will be 100% committed to qualifying for the LCS in Season 4 and winning every amateur circuit event along the way. Curse Academy will be playing the MOBAFire Challenger Series, where they are already 2-1, and will compete in the online LCS Qualifier tournament for PAX Prime.

http://www.teamcurse.net/

So is it really that TSM and C9 are sister teams? Their result seems vastly different that it's hard to think TSM is the one that practice with C9.


A lot, if not most, of the Koreans have two teams with drastically different results. TSM is pretty average in the NA scene. Look at CJ Entus last season. Blaze dominated all season long until the finals whereas Frost looked pretty average in the Korean scene. You could find even more ridiculous examples with the two MVPs or Najin rosters.

The LG IM teams. hue.


you mean MVP? Neither LG IM team is particularly notable although I guess you could say #2 doesn't have a mid laner that was 1v1'd by an Orianna as Ezreal.....

that was the joke. With that being said. Lg im2 should have been able to 2:0 mvp blue.
liftlift > tsm
ketchup
Profile Joined August 2010
14521 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-20 21:11:00
July 20 2013 21:10 GMT
#3313
On July 21 2013 05:50 overt wrote:
I would not be surprised if the rules might change anyway. Especially if Curse tries to do exactly what TSM did. It still confuses me why Riot doesn't let NA/EU have two active teams under the same organization but is perfectly fine with Korea doing it.


Different productions/studios behind the decisions. In Korea, it's essentially Kespa/OGN in charge, and they don't really care about certain brands having an overwhelming show/force.

Riot NA had this thing where they attempted to force brands to have a singular product so the scene isn't just the same brands. It backfired on them as it seems to have killed a lot of the amateur scene. If there was a mistake they'll take back, you can be sure that will be the first one.

From seeing reports that hotshotgg is interested in creating an amateur team, CRS Academy aiming for season 4, Dan Dinh looking to create an amateur team as well, I think the decision might be changing soon.
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
July 20 2013 21:13 GMT
#3314
Would love to see a 16 team lcs, with similar group format as ogn tourney. I really like how prepped each match feels in ogn.
liftlift > tsm
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35145 Posts
July 20 2013 21:20 GMT
#3315
On July 21 2013 06:13 wei2coolman wrote:
Would love to see a 16 team lcs, with similar group format as ogn tourney. I really like how prepped each match feels in ogn.

I think the biggest thing holding this back is Riot being the ones putting out the money. Maybe what they make off of this season will give incentive to expanding.
canikizu
Profile Joined September 2010
4860 Posts
July 20 2013 21:24 GMT
#3316
Changes are good, but I think there still should be a limit number of teams an organization can own though. 5 or 10 teams under one single organization doesn't seem either healthy or productive at all.
overt
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States9006 Posts
July 20 2013 21:28 GMT
#3317
On July 21 2013 06:24 canikizu wrote:
Changes are good, but I think there still should be a limit number of teams an organization can own though. 5 or 10 teams under one single organization doesn't seem either healthy or productive at all.


I can't imagine that happening unless like Coca-Cola and shit get into eSports.

Just having two teams means you're supporting at least 14-16 players not to mention coaching staff, managers, etc.
onlywonderboy
Profile Joined August 2012
United States23745 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-20 21:30:27
July 20 2013 21:29 GMT
#3318
On July 21 2013 06:24 canikizu wrote:
Changes are good, but I think there still should be a limit number of teams an organization can own though. 5 or 10 teams under one single organization doesn't seem either healthy or productive at all.

I doubt we would see something that crazy, but at least allowing sister teams would be nice.

Edit: Also LCS needs more teams in general. Right now too many teams make it into the playoffs, makes the regular season feel pretty meaningless.
RIP Ryan Davis / TL or Die / @onlywonderboy
nojitosunrise
Profile Joined August 2011
United States6188 Posts
July 20 2013 21:30 GMT
#3319
On July 21 2013 06:10 ketchup wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 21 2013 05:50 overt wrote:
I would not be surprised if the rules might change anyway. Especially if Curse tries to do exactly what TSM did. It still confuses me why Riot doesn't let NA/EU have two active teams under the same organization but is perfectly fine with Korea doing it.


Different productions/studios behind the decisions. In Korea, it's essentially Kespa/OGN in charge, and they don't really care about certain brands having an overwhelming show/force.

Riot NA had this thing where they attempted to force brands to have a singular product so the scene isn't just the same brands. It backfired on them as it seems to have killed a lot of the amateur scene. If there was a mistake they'll take back, you can be sure that will be the first one.

From seeing reports that hotshotgg is interested in creating an amateur team, CRS Academy aiming for season 4, Dan Dinh looking to create an amateur team as well, I think the decision might be changing soon.


They probably know Riot's S4 amateur team plans already.
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
July 20 2013 21:31 GMT
#3320
Oh yeah so I had a dream about League last night like wtf Rito plez
It's your boy Guzma!
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