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Scip
Czech Republic11293 Posts
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Capped
United Kingdom7236 Posts
On July 20 2013 07:49 Kenpark wrote: Strong duelist/great early + Lizard is pretty good on him. You are obv the expert jungler here, but I think Panth has some potential. Idk, i see where scip is coming from, if your looking for a duelist then lee / J4 pretty much beat panth jungle wise. But neither of those have his ulti  New discussion. Wards. I feel like wards should have a global limit like the sightstone. Like normal wards (green/pink) can only be placed up to a limit of 5 per team (+ sightstone + wriggles wards) to prevent mass ward spam and bring a little more diversity to games. So, it would convert to like 1/2 bot, 1 mid, 1 top, 1/2 spare. If someone places a ward after 5, it acts like sightstones do, the first disappears. Thoughts? Im too tired to actually type out my thoughts on WHY i think its a good idea but i like it (4:30am T.T) | ||
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Ethelis
United States2400 Posts
On July 20 2013 07:39 Frudgey wrote: Hey guys I need your help: I can't decide whether or not I want Jax or Mordekaiser next. They both seem fun, but I don't know who'll be more fun. Fun time is serous business. Gotta maximize that fun time. + Show Spoiler + Utility Mordekaiser is tons of fun. Always huehue, outrun pesky ganks, faster levels for dat max E. | ||
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Slusher
United States19143 Posts
+ Show Spoiler + hue | ||
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Scip
Czech Republic11293 Posts
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Alaric
France45622 Posts
On July 20 2013 07:29 Scip wrote: Support Panth is a Malunoo-soloQ-Scip-took-my-jungle-again thing. Don't think it's actually legitimate though. Now I'm picturing you with a huge grin everytime queue pops and you notice you're ahead of Malunoo during picks. | ||
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Numy
South Africa35471 Posts
On July 20 2013 08:02 Scip wrote: The proposed idea is naturally pretty silly (Lee Sin did a sick play, good thing we have no vision over baron now) etc. As for limiting it in a more reasonable way, like DotA does, I don't see the need. It's not like lack of wards leads to cool prediction or mindgames, more like glorified guesswork. Actually creates some cool mindgames but that's also a function of the bigger map. Small map kind of removes all those cool options. edit: What's up with league people and their obsession with griefing potential. | ||
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Badboyrune
Sweden2247 Posts
On July 20 2013 07:56 Capped wrote: Idk, i see where scip is coming from, if your looking for a duelist then lee / J4 pretty much beat panth jungle wise. But neither of those have his ulti New discussion. Wards. I feel like wards should have a global limit like the sightstone. Like normal wards (green/pink) can only be placed up to a limit of 5 per team (+ sightstone + wriggles wards) to prevent mass ward spam and bring a little more diversity to games. So, it would convert to like 1/2 bot, 1 mid, 1 top, 1/2 spare. If someone places a ward after 5, it acts like sightstones do, the first disappears. Thoughts? Im too tired to actually type out my thoughts on WHY i think its a good idea but i like it (4:30am T.T) I feel like limiting wards is the only realistic way of letting supports actually by real items. Vision is just that strong. It would likely also make watching pro games a lot more entertaining. I really hope riot makes this happen at some point, but I'm not very hopeful. There would likely be a massive outcry from players that they can't ward all gank paths. | ||
XenOmega
Canada2822 Posts
Riot pls  | ||
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Slusher
United States19143 Posts
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Numy
South Africa35471 Posts
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Slusher
United States19143 Posts
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TheYango
United States47024 Posts
On July 20 2013 08:15 Slusher wrote: well yea but I mean for wards aren't sight wards unlimited? ( I don't know) No, Sight Wards are limited, Vision Wards are unlimited but have 1 vision range so they need to be paired with vision of some form to be useful (DotA uses BW/WC3/SC2 vision mechanics where detection range can use the shared vision from other units). | ||
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Numy
South Africa35471 Posts
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TheYango
United States47024 Posts
On July 20 2013 08:16 Numy wrote: Yes sentries(Sight wards) are unlimited. They cost a bit more(50g) and don't give any vision. You got Sight and Vision Wards screwed up. Sight = no detection, Vision = detection. DW I did too till I checked. | ||
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Slusher
United States19143 Posts
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TheYango
United States47024 Posts
On July 20 2013 08:02 Scip wrote: The proposed idea is naturally pretty silly (Lee Sin did a sick play, good thing we have no vision over baron now) etc. As for limiting it in a more reasonable way, like DotA does, I don't see the need. It's not like lack of wards leads to cool prediction or mindgames, more like glorified guesswork. It's not so much prediction/mindgames more than it simply enables map movement to pay off at times where with current vision mechanics it's simply not practical to do so given that the enemy is likely to have vision anyway. In particular it enables the jungler to gank at different times through more routes, while also enabling laners better aggressive options between lanes without necessarily being seen along the way (in particular, it increases the probability of success of a support roaming, or, say, a 1v2 laner ditching the lane to gank mid and get FB). Of course, without TPs being in the game, this is actually a pretty iffy proposal, because, say, if the enemy mid leaves, and the map is dark, you can't follow him, but you also can't TP-countergank like you could in DotA. | ||
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Scip
Czech Republic11293 Posts
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Simberto
Germany12028 Posts
Though i fell like that would be pretty limiting to the game, it might also open new options. Now you either have really limited vision, or people who are not the support also need to be warding, even lategame. | ||
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Scip
Czech Republic11293 Posts
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