EPT[Patch 3.09: Spirit Guard Udyr Patch] General Discussion -…
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nafta
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upperbound
United States2300 Posts
On July 18 2013 11:21 nafta wrote: Phoenix would make more sense for pushing imo.Don't really understand why max tiger if you are going standart tank.It's a lot more likely people to get armor over mr most of the time too. He's clearly not going tank if you also see my edit, his current runes are 9-0-21. I don't really understand what he's doing. | ||
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nafta
Bulgaria18893 Posts
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NeoIllusions
United States37500 Posts
On July 18 2013 11:20 upperbound wrote: Meteos maxing Q>E>W on jungle Udyr (with 2nd early point in Turtle for sustain) -- has anyone tried this? It seems good for Meteos' style where he constantly pushes every lane on the map, but does this have any merit in games where you get flamed for last hitting under tower? Also could watch Spirit Guard Udyr all day errday, so pretty. EDIT: He's also running 9-0-21, what is this He's building full tank on Jungle Tigerdyr, so there's no point in maxing Turtle too. He's Bear 2nd because he can use the speed increase per level in ganks. | ||
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upperbound
United States2300 Posts
On July 18 2013 11:23 nafta wrote: How is getting golem>bulwark not tank/utility oriented lolz. Sorry my post should have read "standard tank," because he has no defensive masteries. Huge priority on movespeed it seems, and also emphasis on damage with max Tiger. | ||
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wei2coolman
United States60033 Posts
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upperbound
United States2300 Posts
On July 18 2013 11:24 NeoIllusions wrote: He's building full tank on Jungle Tigerdyr, so there's no point in maxing Turtle too. He's Bear 2nd because he can use the speed increase per level in ganks. I just don't understand what the flat AD, havoc, and biscuit are getting him that getting at least 9 defense wouldn't be better. The masteries are the most confusing part. EDIT: I understand the Tiger first now that I see he's running a lifesteal quint and the 3% lifesteal, who needs Tiger when you can do more damage and clear faster at the same time. I do something similar on jungle Jax. I still don't understand some of the other mastery choices though. | ||
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NeoIllusions
United States37500 Posts
This Diamondprox's current Tigerdyr build. zz | ||
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Amui
Canada10567 Posts
On July 18 2013 11:28 upperbound wrote: I just don't understand what the flat AD, havoc, and biscuit are getting him that getting at least 9 defense wouldn't be better. The masteries are the most confusing part. EDIT: I understand the Tiger first now that I see he's running a lifesteal quint and the 3% lifesteal, who needs Tiger when you can do more damage and clear faster at the same time. I do something similar on jungle Jax. I still don't understand some of the other mastery choices though. He wants to move faster. An udyr without defensive tree, but full defense items is still fairly tanky due to turtle and CDR. As tiger, you need the 8% arpen and AD per level. It makes sense, although it is unconventional. | ||
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nafta
Bulgaria18893 Posts
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upperbound
United States2300 Posts
On July 18 2013 11:30 NeoIllusions wrote: He's using 14 3 13 masteries, AD Marks/Quints + 1 Lifesteal Quint, Armor, Flat MR. This Diamondprox's current Tigerdyr build. zz LOL his mastery page name is "Diamondprox have my babys" Still he's just getting blown up now. He's also explaining now that it lets you start Doran's blade and abuse the aspd from Q to get even more flat lifesteal. I see where the build is coming from to clear faster, let you gank more, etc. But it seems like it's sacrificing a lot of teamfight utility. My interest is piqued, though, and I'm gonna try it I think. EDIT: Just to clear up confusion, I'm really just trying to understand this, not question it. Meteos is someone I look up to and I want to understand his thought process (even though this one is stolen from Diamond rofl) | ||
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NeoIllusions
United States37500 Posts
On July 18 2013 11:33 upperbound wrote: LOL his mastery page name is "Diamondprox have my babys" Still he's just getting blown up now. He's also explaining now that it lets you start Doran's blade and abuse the aspd from Q to get even more flat lifesteal. I see where the build is coming from to clear faster, let you gank more, etc. But it seems like it's sacrificing a lot of teamfight utility. My interest is piqued, though, and I'm gonna try it I think. EDIT: Just to clear up confusion, I'm really just trying to understand this, not question it. Meteos is someone I look up to and I want to understand his thought process (even though this one is stolen from Diamond rofl) He's not getting blown up by any means. Diving in 1v4 after two teammates are dead and tanking a turret until 100 hp, it's just yolo queue. His Udyr Rune page is named "Diamond prox hnnng" Overall, Tigerdyr is just taking advantage of stronger ganks and duels and sacrificing a little clear speed. For what C9 needs from Meteos in srs games, this is pretty much perfect mix of tankiness and pressing Udyr's ganking and initiation to the max. Edit: I definitely think he should be taking Wanderer instead of Meditation in the utility tree. But that's just min/max talk. | ||
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upperbound
United States2300 Posts
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cLutZ
United States19573 Posts
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Fusilero
United Kingdom50293 Posts
I guess that liquid wanted crs academy to try for LCS and he's not gonna wait ages for pobelter and altec to come of age. Also eternity dropped their roster so spontexx and kujaa are now teamless (So are haydal and two other guys but who cares) | ||
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ticklishmusic
United States15977 Posts
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Fusilero
United Kingdom50293 Posts
On July 18 2013 11:57 ticklishmusic wrote: Man, can you guys believe that machete felt almost required on most junglers at the beginning of season 3? We've come a long way since then. Fiddlesticks no longer feels so lonely, my friend has been switching up fiddlesticks openings like a mad man at one point he went with full flat AP and a doran's ring (A hilarious highlight was a zed trying to counter jungle him and being 100/0 by life drain due to over whelming AP), atm though he's got a more balanced set up with wards + boots to ensure his safety. | ||
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wei2coolman
United States60033 Posts
On July 18 2013 11:57 ticklishmusic wrote: Man, can you guys believe that machete felt almost required on most junglers at the beginning of season 3? We've come a long way since then. It still is mandatory on almost every jungler | ||
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caelym
United States6421 Posts
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sung_moon
United States10110 Posts
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