• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 19:47
CEST 01:47
KST 08:47
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
[ASL21] Ro16 Preview Pt2: All Star10Team Liquid Map Contest #22 - The Finalists16[ASL21] Ro16 Preview Pt1: Fresh Flow9[ASL21] Ro24 Preview Pt2: News Flash10[ASL21] Ro24 Preview Pt1: New Chaos0
Community News
2026 GSL Season 1 Qualifiers19Maestros of the Game 2 announced92026 GSL Tour plans announced15Weekly Cups (April 6-12): herO doubles, "Villains" prevail1MaNa leaves Team Liquid25
StarCraft 2
General
MaNa leaves Team Liquid Maestros of the Game 2 announced 2026 GSL Tour plans announced Team Liquid Map Contest #22 - The Finalists Blizzard Classic Cup @ BlizzCon 2026 - $100k prize pool
Tourneys
2026 GSL Season 1 Qualifiers INu's Battles#14 <BO.9 2Matches> Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament GSL CK: More events planned pending crowdfunding RSL Revival: Season 5 - Qualifiers and Main Event
Strategy
Custom Maps
[D]RTS in all its shapes and glory <3 [A] Nemrods 1/4 players [M] (2) Frigid Storage
External Content
Mutation # 522 Flip My Base The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 521 Memorable Boss Mutation # 520 Moving Fees
Brood War
General
Leta's ASL S21 Ro.16 review BW General Discussion ASL21 General Discussion BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ Data needed
Tourneys
[Megathread] Daily Proleagues Escore Tournament StarCraft Season 2 [ASL21] Ro16 Group C [ASL21] Ro16 Group D
Strategy
Simple Questions, Simple Answers What's the deal with APM & what's its true value Any training maps people recommend? Fighting Spirit mining rates
Other Games
General Games
Nintendo Switch Thread Dawn of War IV Diablo IV Total Annihilation Server - TAForever Starcraft Tabletop Miniature Game
Dota 2
The Story of Wings Gaming
League of Legends
G2 just beat GenG in First stand
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Vanilla Mini Mafia Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas TL Mafia Community Thread Five o'clock TL Mafia
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Canadian Politics Mega-thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine Russo-Ukrainian War Thread YouTube Thread
Fan Clubs
The IdrA Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
[Manga] One Piece Anime Discussion Thread [Req][Books] Good Fantasy/SciFi books Movie Discussion!
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion McBoner: A hockey love story Cricket [SPORT]
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Strange computer issues (software) [G] How to Block Livestream Ads
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Sexual Health Of Gamers
TrAiDoS
lurker extra damage testi…
StaticNine
Broowar part 2
qwaykee
Funny Nicknames
LUCKY_NOOB
Iranian anarchists: organize…
XenOsky
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1676 users

[Patch 3.09: Spirit Guard Udyr Patch] General Discussion -…

Forum Index > LoL General
Post a Reply
Prev 1 128 129 130 131 132 339 Next
UniversalSnip
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
9871 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-18 04:23:49
July 18 2013 04:22 GMT
#2581
On July 18 2013 12:51 Craton wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 18 2013 12:35 wei2coolman wrote:
But that free ward! The main issue is if you do go madreds, there's no incentive to go wriggles.

It needs to build into something useful. All the other jungler items have a 'big' final item, while wriggles stops at low/mid size.


that's why they increased the slot efficiency. still it's sitting in the same camp as botrk, which is an item so astoundingly stupid it competes with phantom dancer, bloodthirster, wriggles and tiamat all at once. additionally the stats are just terrible so it doesn't appeal to these hypothetical jungling melee carries it should go on. plus for some reason they made the ward terrible as well. having to use it every 90 seconds to avoid losing uptime is just awful.
"How fucking dare you defile the sanctity of DotA with your fucking casual plebian terminology? May the curse of Gaben and Volvo be upon you. le filthy casual."
AsmodeusXI
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States15536 Posts
July 18 2013 04:41 GMT
#2582
GALT FORCES OWB AND I INTO A 4V5 RUDE.
WriterTL > RL. BNet: Asmodeus#1187 - LoL: DJForeclosure - Steam: asmodeusxi | www.n3rddimension.com
kainzero
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States5211 Posts
July 18 2013 04:41 GMT
#2583
First time I saw DBlade Elise was in the LPL finals, OMGLovelin did it in game 4.

I used to go Boots/3 on her because her spiderlings are very effective at tanking buffs. You used to be able to smite blue and still do red, but I think it requires some more finesse now.
onlywonderboy
Profile Joined August 2012
United States23745 Posts
July 18 2013 04:42 GMT
#2584
On July 18 2013 13:41 AsmodeusXI wrote:
GALT FORCES OWB AND I INTO A 4V5 RUDE.

Reported.
RIP Ryan Davis / TL or Die / @onlywonderboy
Seuss
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States10536 Posts
July 18 2013 04:48 GMT
#2585
Imma stream their next misadventure.
"I am not able to carry all this people alone, for they are too heavy for me." -Moses (Numbers 11:14)
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
July 18 2013 04:49 GMT
#2586
On July 18 2013 13:42 onlywonderboy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 18 2013 13:41 AsmodeusXI wrote:
GALT FORCES OWB AND I INTO A 4V5 RUDE.

Reported.

I blame comcast.
liftlift > tsm
AsmodeusXI
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States15536 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-18 04:52:12
July 18 2013 04:51 GMT
#2587
On July 18 2013 13:49 wei2coolman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 18 2013 13:42 onlywonderboy wrote:
On July 18 2013 13:41 AsmodeusXI wrote:
GALT FORCES OWB AND I INTO A 4V5 RUDE.

Reported.

I blame comcast.


So did he.

Edit:

On July 18 2013 13:48 Seuss wrote:
Imma stream their next misadventure.


OURS. o no pls
WriterTL > RL. BNet: Asmodeus#1187 - LoL: DJForeclosure - Steam: asmodeusxi | www.n3rddimension.com
onlywonderboy
Profile Joined August 2012
United States23745 Posts
July 18 2013 04:52 GMT
#2588
On July 18 2013 13:48 Seuss wrote:
Imma stream their next misadventure.

Too much pressure. Our Thresh lead with "I'm terrible at this champ." So expect great things.
RIP Ryan Davis / TL or Die / @onlywonderboy
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
July 18 2013 04:54 GMT
#2589
On July 18 2013 13:52 onlywonderboy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 18 2013 13:48 Seuss wrote:
Imma stream their next misadventure.

Too much pressure. Our Thresh lead with "I'm terrible at this champ." So expect great things.

Better ride dat Lissandra train all the way to Challengers.
liftlift > tsm
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
July 18 2013 05:04 GMT
#2590
I'm watching Monte talk through the equivalent of ripping his hair out at Varus misplays.
I MISS CASTING
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
fantasticoranges
Profile Joined July 2011
1327 Posts
July 18 2013 05:13 GMT
#2591
You really don't need to start machete anymore, I start boots on a few champs such as voli, I don't do utility spec, but the boots still help out quite a bit considering no one else starts boots.

Idk, boots might not work in lcs level games or anything like that, but in solo queue / normal premades they let me make plays early game and that tends to be enough to buy a spirit stone first back and then it's just me going even / ahead item wise, and whatever lane I went to is also ahead.

I do agreed with trick on the fact that you have to be comfortable with a champ if you're going to do boots / utility though, machete is much safer, so on champs I'm still learning like hecarim, I do machete, but now that I've gotten a few games down with him, I might start boots.

On that note, opinions on hec after the Q mana cost increase?
I just tend to take the 2nd blue now to keep up my mana.
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
July 18 2013 05:16 GMT
#2592
OWB channeling his inner nyjacky.
liftlift > tsm
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
July 18 2013 05:16 GMT
#2593
On July 18 2013 13:48 Seuss wrote:
Imma stream their next misadventure.

I'd like to take this moment to declare how OP the catalyst nami is
Glorious SEA doto
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
July 18 2013 05:19 GMT
#2594
On July 18 2013 14:16 Fusilero wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 18 2013 13:48 Seuss wrote:
Imma stream their next misadventure.

I'd like to take this moment to declare how OP the catalyst nami is

RoA; she's moving up in the world; her "op'd" ratios; amirite?
I love that the varus sold his zeal for bildgewater. LOL.
liftlift > tsm
onlywonderboy
Profile Joined August 2012
United States23745 Posts
July 18 2013 05:26 GMT
#2595
Well I've certainly played worse.
RIP Ryan Davis / TL or Die / @onlywonderboy
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-18 05:26:47
July 18 2013 05:26 GMT
#2596
On July 18 2013 14:26 onlywonderboy wrote:
Well I've certainly played worse.

Why are you such a feeder?
I think Monte has died of cancer watching that game.
liftlift > tsm
JonGalt
Profile Joined February 2013
Pootie too good!4331 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-18 05:28:40
July 18 2013 05:26 GMT
#2597
On July 18 2013 13:51 AsmodeusXI wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 18 2013 13:49 wei2coolman wrote:
On July 18 2013 13:42 onlywonderboy wrote:
On July 18 2013 13:41 AsmodeusXI wrote:
GALT FORCES OWB AND I INTO A 4V5 RUDE.

Reported.

I blame comcast.


So did he.

Edit:

Show nested quote +
On July 18 2013 13:48 Seuss wrote:
Imma stream their next misadventure.


OURS. o no pls


CAN'T WAIT.
So cool to watch TLers btdubs.

On July 17 2013 01:00 TheYango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 17 2013 00:53 Slayer91 wrote:
apple juice is just as good as orange juice

wtf no


This times the largest number imaginable. I love orange juice a seemingly unhealthy amount. I even enjoy it after brushing my teeth. Real talk.
LiquidLegends StaffWho is Jon Galt?
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
July 18 2013 05:28 GMT
#2598
Orange Juice > Apple Juice.
liftlift > tsm
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
July 18 2013 05:29 GMT
#2599
HOW COULD THE ZEALIBEAR FAILED. TEAMS TOO HEAVY
Glorious SEA doto
onlywonderboy
Profile Joined August 2012
United States23745 Posts
July 18 2013 05:31 GMT
#2600
On July 18 2013 14:29 Fusilero wrote:
HOW COULD THE ZEALIBEAR FAILED. TEAMS TOO HEAVY

That's not too far off of how the real chat was.
RIP Ryan Davis / TL or Die / @onlywonderboy
Prev 1 128 129 130 131 132 339 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
BSL
19:00
RO16 TieBreaker - Group A
ZZZero.O268
LiquipediaDiscussion
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
Ketroc 140
StarCraft: Brood War
ZZZero.O 268
League of Legends
Doublelift4238
JimRising 267
Super Smash Bros
C9.Mang0551
AZ_Axe220
Heroes of the Storm
Khaldor300
Other Games
gofns20576
summit1g12046
tarik_tv10659
FrodaN1346
ViBE65
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick1763
BasetradeTV118
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
[ Show 20 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Hupsaiya 90
• poizon28 43
• davetesta37
• musti20045 32
• mYiSmile126
• Airneanach6
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• sooper7s
• Migwel
StarCraft: Brood War
• RayReign 13
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
• BSLYoutube
Other Games
• imaqtpie1310
• Scarra818
• tFFMrPink 10
Upcoming Events
Sparkling Tuna Cup
10h 13m
WardiTV Map Contest Tou…
11h 13m
MaxPax vs SHIN
Clem vs Classic
Ladder Legends
15h 13m
Solar vs GgMaChine
Bunny vs Cham
ByuN vs MaxPax
BSL
19h 13m
CranKy Ducklings
1d
Replay Cast
1d 9h
Wardi Open
1d 10h
Afreeca Starleague
1d 10h
Soma vs hero
Monday Night Weeklies
1d 16h
Replay Cast
2 days
[ Show More ]
Replay Cast
2 days
Afreeca Starleague
2 days
Leta vs YSC
Replay Cast
4 days
The PondCast
4 days
KCM Race Survival
4 days
Replay Cast
5 days
Replay Cast
5 days
Escore
5 days
Replay Cast
6 days
Replay Cast
6 days
IPSL
6 days
Ret vs Art_Of_Turtle
Radley vs TBD
BSL
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Escore Tournament S2: W4
RSL Revival: Season 4
NationLESS Cup

Ongoing

BSL Season 22
ASL Season 21
CSL 2026 SPRING (S20)
IPSL Spring 2026
KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 2
StarCraft2 Community Team League 2026 Spring
WardiTV TLMC #16
Nations Cup 2026
IEM Rio 2026
PGL Bucharest 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 1
BLAST Open Spring 2026
ESL Pro League S23 Finals
ESL Pro League S23 Stage 1&2
PGL Cluj-Napoca 2026

Upcoming

Escore Tournament S2: W5
Acropolis #4
BSL 22 Non-Korean Championship
CSLAN 4
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
HSC XXIX
uThermal 2v2 2026 Main Event
Maestros of the Game 2
2026 GSL S2
RSL Revival: Season 5
2026 GSL S1
XSE Pro League 2026
IEM Cologne Major 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 2
CS Asia Championships 2026
IEM Atlanta 2026
Asian Champions League 2026
PGL Astana 2026
BLAST Rivals Spring 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.