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On June 17 2013 10:00 Gahlo wrote:Show nested quote +On June 17 2013 09:29 AsmodeusXI wrote:On June 17 2013 09:25 Gahlo wrote:On June 17 2013 09:16 AsmodeusXI wrote:Most important part of that thread is there's a Diana skin in the pipeline and as long as it's better than DV Diana then it's a Day One buy and I don't even play her. I was really worried that the ultimate skin would be Diana. Pale e Cascade and all. I wanted to stop at Woad King this patch. When I was at PAX East, I told IronStylus that if I had a dream skin it would be a theme-swapped Diana/Leona skin set. Something like "Lunar Exile Leona/Redeemed Solari Diana." He said, "We might be able to do something about that," and grinned. My body... is so ready. This fanart has been posted on the forums numerous times, and each time it seems to get Stylus hot and bothered: + Show Spoiler +http://fc03.deviantart.net/fs70/f/2013/164/2/5/eclipse_leona_by_sunnykoda-d60dj2t.jpg Also, no fair, I want to meet Rioters. =[
That leona pic looks like some medieval S&M shit
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On June 17 2013 11:07 iCanada wrote:Show nested quote +On June 17 2013 10:59 OLMantis wrote:
As the LCS started a lot of nunu players are just playing aggressively in the early phase and doing stuff like warding bush near red buff and running with q/smite to ensure the steal. My question is what jungle champ has the best chance deflecting this style of play? Also, where is it best to put the early ward. at the entrance? or near the close bush?
Thanks ahead for the help!! Udyr doesn't really care. Dude is a brick wall in the jungle. Can't 1v1 him cuz he just stronger if you fight him, can't steal his shit because he just kill it faster.
Or Lee. He can just go wherever anyways, plus you can start red.
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Oh my gawd, i want to only play quinn for the next forever... most fun champ in the game imo. She has huge steroids, think she better than Vayne mid-late game in terms of "short range hyper carry".
brb tanking my rating many many games. <_<
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Mm?
Quinn deals far less damage than Vayne, it's not even close.
I guess if you can Valor in without getting blown up
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what champion beats diana the hardest?
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On June 17 2013 06:58 overt wrote:Show nested quote +On June 17 2013 06:50 NeoIllusions wrote:On June 17 2013 06:45 Ketara wrote:On June 17 2013 06:43 Osmoses wrote:On June 17 2013 06:33 ZERG_RUSSIAN wrote:On June 17 2013 06:29 Ketara wrote:
I think I'm done playing League for a while.
I can't handle all the trashtalk in the games. It's gotten so much worse since summer started. I do not enjoy playing anymore. It's just stressful and rarely fun.
Maybe I'll start actually watching LCS instead. I did this. Ranked is seriously hell for your psyche to have to deal with all of the raging idiots and if normals are becoming that too then you should definitely take a break. Theres always ignore. Assholes like you are the reason why I don't want to play anymore. Just FYI. l0l? I don't see how trashtalk should be a breaking point in this game. It's something you can entirely ignore (figuratively and literally). Shit play, ok fine, you have to carry bads but that's the nature of solo queue. But trashtalk? Either thick skin or remove chat. I honestly don't see why chat has to have a negative impact on anyone in this game. It's not even the nature of solo queue. It's online gaming period. If you can't ignore it, laugh it off, or troll the kids who rage at you then you should probably be playing with friends and with friends only.
That's me in a nutshell. Shit, I can even receive infinite trashtalk from friends and be relatively ok, but trashtalk from strangers bothers me a lot more. I'll disable allchat at the slightest smack talk from the opposing team, I rarely soloqueue (I had less than 20 soloqueue games played from beginning season1 to end season2.) and even cringe at queueing with 4 instead of 5.
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Even if Quinn had better raw damage, her ability to stay in the fight just doesn't deliver compared to Vayne. 25 range is really prohibitive to lategame teamfighting, and Vault doesn't deliver as a mobility skill compared to Tumble/Night Hunter/Final Hour.
She's a great gank-oriented hero, but her teamfighting really is not all that good.
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On June 17 2013 12:45 Parametric wrote:
what champion beats diana the hardest?
If we're not counting the post lane phase, Morde has given me the most troubles.
On June 17 2013 10:01 NeoIllusions wrote:Attend conventions and tournaments, Gahlo. 
Cross country flights 'spensive. Maybe S3 champs, maybe...
Moar IPL3 god location of Atlantic City pls.
On June 17 2013 11:11 Nos- wrote:Show nested quote +On June 17 2013 10:00 Gahlo wrote:On June 17 2013 09:29 AsmodeusXI wrote:On June 17 2013 09:25 Gahlo wrote:On June 17 2013 09:16 AsmodeusXI wrote:Most important part of that thread is there's a Diana skin in the pipeline and as long as it's better than DV Diana then it's a Day One buy and I don't even play her. I was really worried that the ultimate skin would be Diana. Pale e Cascade and all. I wanted to stop at Woad King this patch. When I was at PAX East, I told IronStylus that if I had a dream skin it would be a theme-swapped Diana/Leona skin set. Something like "Lunar Exile Leona/Redeemed Solari Diana." He said, "We might be able to do something about that," and grinned. My body... is so ready. This fanart has been posted on the forums numerous times, and each time it seems to get Stylus hot and bothered: + Show Spoiler +Also, no fair, I want to meet Rioters. =[ That leona pic looks like some medieval S&M shit
As I said, hot and bothered.
EDIT: Aaand I derped and forgot to put it in an img tag. Time to edit a bunch of crap.
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On June 17 2013 12:36 Shikyo wrote:
Mm?
Quinn deals far less damage than Vayne, it's not even close.
I guess if you can Valor in without getting blown up
With full item build (IE, BT, PD, LW, boots, Defensive item) you have 210 AD from items, 331 AD at level 18. Her passive does 175+(.50*210)=280 extra damage. Thats two autos guaranteed to do 610 damage before penetration instantly with an auto attack reset and the E damage (160+(0.2*210)=202. Thats an instant 1422 damage at the start of the fight, and then another 235+(.6*210)=361 from Q, as well as 440+(1.0*210)=650.
Quinn can Q->passive auto->E->Passive auto ->RRexecute for 2433 damage before the opponent can even respond. Thats Zed level burst.
Vaynes combo that is similar with the same items: Auto->Q->E does: 393+(1.5*393)+(185+(.5*265)= 1300+8% targets maximum HP. Only time Vaynes Combo does more damage is if opponent has 14162 maximum HP.... which sorry doesn't exactly happen.
Quinns 1v1 is better, and then Quinn has significantly better attack speed at level 18.
Vayne does better sustained damage, sure, but to say their damage output isn't even close is just absolutely false. Quinns kit scales monstrously well. Although I'd agree that Vayne is a much better teamfighter.
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On June 17 2013 12:45 Parametric wrote:
what champion beats diana the hardest?
Dunno about hardest, but Kayle is pretty nice. The changes to Nashors Tooth and minions doing less damage were some nice indirect buffs.
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On June 17 2013 13:04 iCanada wrote:Show nested quote +On June 17 2013 12:36 Shikyo wrote:
Mm?
Quinn deals far less damage than Vayne, it's not even close.
I guess if you can Valor in without getting blown up With full item build (IE, BT, PD, LW, boots, Defensive item) you have 210 AD from items, 331 AD at level 18. Her passive does 175+(.50*210)=280 extra damage. Thats two autos guaranteed to do 610 damage before penetration instantly with an auto attack reset and the E damage (160+(0.2*210)=202. Thats an instant 1422 damage at the start of the fight, and then another 235+(.6*210)=361 from Q, as well as 440+(1.0*210)=650. Quinn can Q->passive auto->E->Passive auto ->RRexecute for 2433 damage before the opponent can even respond. Thats Zed level burst. Vaynes combo that is similar with the same items: Auto->Q->E does: 393+(1.5*393)+(185+(.5*265)= 1300+8% targets maximum HP. Only time Vaynes Combo does more damage is if opponent has 14162 maximum HP.... which sorry doesn't exactly happen. Quinns 1v1 is better, and then Quinn has significantly better attack speed at level 18. Vayne does better sustained damage, sure, but to say their damage output isn't even close is just absolutely false. Quinns kit scales monstrously well. Although I'd agree that Vayne is a much better teamfighter.
Yeah but you kind of get in melee range 2 times which as an ad you can't really afford.Quinn is a really good duelist I agree but saying she is good in teamfights is just flat out wrong.
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As a heads up:
ggCMonteCristo: .@ggDoA and I will be casting the OGN Champions Summer qualifiers from the studio in 5.5 hours. Champions will have 16 teams this season!
(30min ago)
So 09:00 GMT (+00:00) (I believe :p )
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On June 17 2013 13:06 nafta wrote:Show nested quote +On June 17 2013 13:04 iCanada wrote:On June 17 2013 12:36 Shikyo wrote:
Mm?
Quinn deals far less damage than Vayne, it's not even close.
I guess if you can Valor in without getting blown up With full item build (IE, BT, PD, LW, boots, Defensive item) you have 210 AD from items, 331 AD at level 18. Her passive does 175+(.50*210)=280 extra damage. Thats two autos guaranteed to do 610 damage before penetration instantly with an auto attack reset and the E damage (160+(0.2*210)=202. Thats an instant 1422 damage at the start of the fight, and then another 235+(.6*210)=361 from Q, as well as 440+(1.0*210)=650. Quinn can Q->passive auto->E->Passive auto ->RRexecute for 2433 damage before the opponent can even respond. Thats Zed level burst. Vaynes combo that is similar with the same items: Auto->Q->E does: 393+(1.5*393)+(185+(.5*265)= 1300+8% targets maximum HP. Only time Vaynes Combo does more damage is if opponent has 14162 maximum HP.... which sorry doesn't exactly happen. Quinns 1v1 is better, and then Quinn has significantly better attack speed at level 18. Vayne does better sustained damage, sure, but to say their damage output isn't even close is just absolutely false. Quinns kit scales monstrously well. Although I'd agree that Vayne is a much better teamfighter. Yeah but you kind of get in melee range 2 times which as an ad you can't really afford.Quinn is a really good duelist I agree but saying she is good in teamfights is just flat out wrong.
I never said she was good in teamfights... also, range on her R execute is 700, so she only needs to get in melee range once for less than a fraction of a second. Just because people are dumb and try to use her ult as a steroid in teamfights doesn't mean that her kit is bad.
I think people write her off without giving her a chance. I not saying she the best AD in the game, but I am saying she is a lot better than people give her credit for. Imo only buff she could really use is chnaging her E to make her untargetable while in melee range.
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I'm really enjoying the power spike I'm feeling when I get my zypher on aatrox.
nomnomnom
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nunu is a fucking cancer champion, even pros complain how gay he is, im completely ok with riot nerfing him to the ground so we wont see him ever again
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On June 17 2013 13:07 emperorchampion wrote:As a heads up: Show nested quote +ggCMonteCristo: .@ggDoA and I will be casting the OGN Champions Summer qualifiers from the studio in 5.5 hours. Champions will have 16 teams this season! (30min ago) So 09:00 GMT (+00:00) (I believe :p )
Wow, four more teams, that's pretty cool.
Four more teams, still no Maknoon /hue
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On June 17 2013 13:04 iCanada wrote:Show nested quote +On June 17 2013 12:36 Shikyo wrote:
Mm?
Quinn deals far less damage than Vayne, it's not even close.
I guess if you can Valor in without getting blown up With full item build (IE, BT, PD, LW, boots, Defensive item) you have 210 AD from items, 331 AD at level 18. Her passive does 175+(.50*210)=280 extra damage. Thats two autos guaranteed to do 610 damage before penetration instantly with an auto attack reset and the E damage (160+(0.2*210)=202. Thats an instant 1422 damage at the start of the fight, and then another 235+(.6*210)=361 from Q, as well as 440+(1.0*210)=650. Quinn can Q->passive auto->E->Passive auto ->RRexecute for 2433 damage before the opponent can even respond. Thats Zed level burst. Vaynes combo that is similar with the same items: Auto->Q->E does: 393+(1.5*393)+(185+(.5*265)= 1300+8% targets maximum HP. Only time Vaynes Combo does more damage is if opponent has 14162 maximum HP.... which sorry doesn't exactly happen. Quinns 1v1 is better, and then Quinn has significantly better attack speed at level 18. Vayne does better sustained damage, sure, but to say their damage output isn't even close is just absolutely false. Quinns kit scales monstrously well. Although I'd agree that Vayne is a much better teamfighter.
The important thing is time, not amount of autoattacks. First of all Quinn E animation takes forever and a half and has a long cooldown, second Vayne Q has 2s cd, resets attack animation and gives 50% bonus damage. Vayne ult also gives her a huge bonus amount of AD. Then there's of course her W bonus damage. Her tumble gives her the mobility and invisibility to actually be able to deal the damage whereas Quinn has absolutely nothing like that and her tumble even makes her vulnerable to melee.
I guess she deals more burst... Unless the target is against the wall.
Note if it's 1v1 or an advantageous fight and she can use Valor freely this changes, she's quite insane if she can use Valor without being destroyed
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On June 17 2013 13:14 kongoline wrote:
nunu is a fucking cancer champion, even pros complain about how gay he is, im completely ok with riot nerfing him to the ground so we wont see him ever again
You going to see so much more Nunu in 3.8.
hue
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On June 17 2013 13:14 kongoline wrote:
nunu is a fucking cancer champion, even pros complain about how gay he is, im completely ok with riot nerfing him to the ground so we wont see him ever again
He was never a problem when he was a dedicated support. 
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On June 17 2013 13:19 TheLink wrote:Show nested quote +On June 17 2013 13:14 kongoline wrote:
nunu is a fucking cancer champion, even pros complain about how gay he is, im completely ok with riot nerfing him to the ground so we wont see him ever again He was never a problem when he was a dedicated support.
Someone doesnt remember Nunu/Cait in early S3
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