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SagaZ
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
France3460 Posts
June 28 2013 15:44 GMT
#4681
idk, i used to play at consistent 200 ping, got used to it, was playable.
Now i play at 20 ping and omg the game is completly different.
Saying "it's playable at 200" while true is like saying you can enjoy clasic music with shitty earbuds. Yes you can listen to the thing somewhat, but change those for a true audio equipement and you can't go back anymore
Be nice, buy wards and don't feed double buff.
SidianTheBard
Profile Joined October 2010
United States2475 Posts
June 28 2013 16:03 GMT
#4682
On June 29 2013 00:36 jcarlsoniv wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 28 2013 23:46 SidianTheBard wrote:
On June 28 2013 18:24 Osmoses wrote:
On June 28 2013 16:26 Gahlo wrote:
So Riot, now that the Aussies have moved out...NAE please!

East is the worst (manner-wise) part of NA for sure.


Yeah, because we're pissed we have to play on these shitty west-coast servers. I mean, 80 ping is ridiculous. Can't play.


I play at ~95 regularly, and it's completely comfortable.

The problem isn't higher ping, it's unstable ping. Someone who plays at 150-200 consistently will have no trouble at all. However, if you give me a connection that ranges from 30-80 ping, I would hate it.

It's the fluctuations that kills play, not slightly higher ping.


Yeah, mine is usually constantly at 80 so it's not that bad. Gotta say it would be nice to have, I dunno, Chicago servers or something. I play CSGO quite a bit as well and it's amazing to get a Chicago server and I've got ~10 ping on it.
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Capped
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom7236 Posts
June 28 2013 16:21 GMT
#4683
I play at 220-250 ping and its stable, the delay is slight but it does effect my play, not to the point where its unplayable though, its completely manageable and you get used to it.

Saying 80 ping is terrible is ridiculous, i'd fucking kill for that, anything below 100 is unnoticable imo
Useless wet fish.
LaNague
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Germany9118 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-28 16:22:39
June 28 2013 16:22 GMT
#4684
there was a time where riot mixed in US server into EU game servers because they didnt have enough.
that was just terror. You play with 10ms one game and next game you have 140 plus huge lagspikes. I flat out refused to play those games later on and didnt even get banned.
Ecael
Profile Joined February 2008
United States6703 Posts
June 28 2013 16:24 GMT
#4685
On June 29 2013 00:44 SagaZ wrote:
idk, i used to play at consistent 200 ping, got used to it, was playable.
Now i play at 20 ping and omg the game is completly different.
Saying "it's playable at 200" while true is like saying you can enjoy clasic music with shitty earbuds. Yes you can listen to the thing somewhat, but change those for a true audio equipement and you can't go back anymore

Scumbag henfo ditching good buddies for the 20 ping, you'd better be challenger BR by now.
FSKi
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United States901 Posts
June 28 2013 16:30 GMT
#4686
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Lord Tolkien
Profile Joined November 2012
United States12083 Posts
June 28 2013 16:36 GMT
#4687
On June 29 2013 01:03 SidianTheBard wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 29 2013 00:36 jcarlsoniv wrote:
On June 28 2013 23:46 SidianTheBard wrote:
On June 28 2013 18:24 Osmoses wrote:
On June 28 2013 16:26 Gahlo wrote:
So Riot, now that the Aussies have moved out...NAE please!

East is the worst (manner-wise) part of NA for sure.


Yeah, because we're pissed we have to play on these shitty west-coast servers. I mean, 80 ping is ridiculous. Can't play.


I play at ~95 regularly, and it's completely comfortable.

The problem isn't higher ping, it's unstable ping. Someone who plays at 150-200 consistently will have no trouble at all. However, if you give me a connection that ranges from 30-80 ping, I would hate it.

It's the fluctuations that kills play, not slightly higher ping.


Yeah, mine is usually constantly at 80 so it's not that bad. Gotta say it would be nice to have, I dunno, Chicago servers or something. I play CSGO quite a bit as well and it's amazing to get a Chicago server and I've got ~10 ping on it.

More or less. I could care less about the ping so long as it was stable (previously on my old ISP/router back when LoL first began, I was somehow getting pings of 150-160 on the East Coast, yet was perfectly playable in comparison to random ping fluctuations from 80-110 that I've sometimes been getting recently; the fluctuation throws off my csing/AA cancelling so hard qq).

I for one eagerly await the rise of our new Aussie gaming overlords.
"His father is pretty juicy tbh." ~WaveofShadow
Mensol
Profile Joined September 2012
14536 Posts
June 28 2013 16:37 GMT
#4688
i got 60-80 ping on euw. i once tried to play on NA and my ping was 180-200. i'd say it was pretty unplayable T_T
If you don't know what the fuck you are doing, how are your enemies supposed to know what the fuck you are doing. - imaqtpie on NA teams at Worlds.
SagaZ
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
France3460 Posts
June 28 2013 16:46 GMT
#4689
On June 29 2013 01:24 Ecael wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 29 2013 00:44 SagaZ wrote:
idk, i used to play at consistent 200 ping, got used to it, was playable.
Now i play at 20 ping and omg the game is completly different.
Saying "it's playable at 200" while true is like saying you can enjoy clasic music with shitty earbuds. Yes you can listen to the thing somewhat, but change those for a true audio equipement and you can't go back anymore

Scumbag henfo ditching good buddies for the 20 ping, you'd better be challenger BR by now.

lol "good buddies"
the baggest of the scum and the scumiest of the bags that's what i ditched
Be nice, buy wards and don't feed double buff.
Drium
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States888 Posts
June 28 2013 16:49 GMT
#4690
Elophant tracks average ping by league and ping steadily decreases as league goes up.
http://www.elophant.com/league-of-legends/charts/tier?region=all&period=month
KwanROLLLLLLLED
Xenocide_Knight
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Korea (South)2625 Posts
June 28 2013 16:49 GMT
#4691
On June 29 2013 01:30 FSKi wrote:
Im sick and tired of playing with these shit fuck bads who ban the dumbest champs like amumu garen teemo. They let all "OP" champs through, and I can only pick one, while the other team gets the rest and we lose. This, along with leavers, has plagued me for the past week. I'm fucking mad, yet thankful this thread exists so I'm not yelling at my team mates and getting banned from league.

For real though, I've got a fairly decent understanding of this game and I'm looking for a duo partner or just someone to play normals with so I can gtfo bronze 2 and stop having to see these mindless picks/bans.

I'm honestly so tired of people who have some secret list of OP champions that guarantee a win as long as your # of OP champs is greater than the enemy # of OP champs.
Shine[Kal] #1 fan
FSKi
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United States901 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-28 16:58:34
June 28 2013 16:56 GMT
#4692
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Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
June 28 2013 16:58 GMT
#4693
Can't ban all of Jayce/Nunu/Kha'Zix/Elise unless the enemy first pick "helps" it so obnoxious stuff will slip through anyway.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
nafta
Profile Joined August 2010
Bulgaria18893 Posts
June 28 2013 16:58 GMT
#4694
On June 29 2013 01:56 FSKi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 29 2013 01:49 Xenocide_Knight wrote:
On June 29 2013 01:30 FSKi wrote:
Im sick and tired of playing with these shit fuck bads who ban the dumbest champs like amumu garen teemo. They let all "OP" champs through, and I can only pick one, while the other team gets the rest and we lose. This, along with leavers, has plagued me for the past week. I'm fucking mad, yet thankful this thread exists so I'm not yelling at my team mates and getting banned from league.

For real though, I've got a fairly decent understanding of this game and I'm looking for a duo partner or just someone to play normals with so I can gtfo bronze 2 and stop having to see these mindless picks/bans.

I'm honestly so tired of people who have some secret list of OP champions that guarantee a win as long as your # of OP champs is greater than the enemy # of OP champs.


When I say OP I am generalizing the idea that my team mates always pick champions that are the lowest tier, while the enemy team seems to always have 5 tier 1 champions. Its by no means a "secret list." Some champions are just better than others in the current game.


It comes down to how you play.Especially in bronze 2 it really doesn't matter at all.
jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
June 28 2013 17:07 GMT
#4695
On June 29 2013 01:49 Drium wrote:
Elophant tracks average ping by league and ping steadily decreases as league goes up.
http://www.elophant.com/league-of-legends/charts/tier?region=all&period=month


Peoples' computers also get better as you get higher in the ranks.

I always notice when someone has Low Elo Load Times in ARAM or normals or something.
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Spaiku
Profile Joined July 2012
Spain1114 Posts
June 28 2013 17:08 GMT
#4696
On June 29 2013 01:30 FSKi wrote:
Im sick and tired of playing with these shit fuck bads who ban the dumbest champs like amumu garen teemo. They let all "OP" champs through, and I can only pick one, while the other team gets the rest and we lose. This, along with leavers, has plagued me for the past week. I'm fucking mad, yet thankful this thread exists so I'm not yelling at my team mates and getting banned from league.

For real though, I've got a fairly decent understanding of this game and I'm looking for a duo partner or just someone to play normals with so I can gtfo bronze 2 and stop having to see these mindless picks/bans.

Sounds like a good post for the QQ thread.

Do you realize the enemy team is as dumb as yours and has the same probabilty (or higher if you don't leave) to have people leaving?
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
June 28 2013 17:09 GMT
#4697
On June 29 2013 01:49 Drium wrote:
Elophant tracks average ping by league and ping steadily decreases as league goes up.
http://www.elophant.com/league-of-legends/charts/tier?region=all&period=month

I'd say that's more likely the effect of a small percentage of outliers.

It's not so much that a small decrease in ping makes you play somewhat better, more than the fact that in lower leagues, you're more likely to bump into people with absolutely abysmal (e.g. 250+) pings playing from a bad connection or halfway across the world.
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jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
June 28 2013 17:10 GMT
#4698
On June 29 2013 02:09 TheYango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 29 2013 01:49 Drium wrote:
Elophant tracks average ping by league and ping steadily decreases as league goes up.
http://www.elophant.com/league-of-legends/charts/tier?region=all&period=month

I'd say that's more likely the effect of a small percentage of outliers.

It's not so much that a small decrease in ping makes you play somewhat better, more than the fact that in lower leagues, you're more likely to bump into people with absolutely abysmal (e.g. 250+) pings playing from a bad connection or halfway across the world.


Correlation vs. Causation, yo
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kongoline
Profile Joined February 2012
6318 Posts
June 28 2013 17:12 GMT
#4699
On June 29 2013 01:30 FSKi wrote:
Im sick and tired of playing with these shit fuck bads who ban the dumbest champs like amumu garen teemo. They let all "OP" champs through, and I can only pick one, while the other team gets the rest and we lose. This, along with leavers, has plagued me for the past week. I'm fucking mad, yet thankful this thread exists so I'm not yelling at my team mates and getting banned from league.

For real though, I've got a fairly decent understanding of this game and I'm looking for a duo partner or just someone to play normals with so I can gtfo bronze 2 and stop having to see these mindless picks/bans.

first pick insta locks amumu: who wants to play amumu ?
Sandster
Profile Joined November 2006
United States4054 Posts
June 28 2013 17:16 GMT
#4700
On June 29 2013 01:56 FSKi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 29 2013 01:49 Xenocide_Knight wrote:
On June 29 2013 01:30 FSKi wrote:
Im sick and tired of playing with these shit fuck bads who ban the dumbest champs like amumu garen teemo. They let all "OP" champs through, and I can only pick one, while the other team gets the rest and we lose. This, along with leavers, has plagued me for the past week. I'm fucking mad, yet thankful this thread exists so I'm not yelling at my team mates and getting banned from league.

For real though, I've got a fairly decent understanding of this game and I'm looking for a duo partner or just someone to play normals with so I can gtfo bronze 2 and stop having to see these mindless picks/bans.

I'm honestly so tired of people who have some secret list of OP champions that guarantee a win as long as your # of OP champs is greater than the enemy # of OP champs.


When I say OP I am generalizing the idea that my team mates always pick champions that are the lowest tier, while the enemy team seems to always have 5 tier 1 champions. Its by no means a "secret list." Some champions are just better than others in the current game.

For example, they don't understand they can counter jungle amumu and they ban him. They dont understand how to play against blitz, so they ban him. I don't like when people ban shit because they don't know how to play. I'd rather them ban things that you can't necessarily play around.


Tiers in bronze? What?

There's nothing in the game that can't be played around. For bronzies, it's hard for them to play against blitz hooks and amumu ults, so they're banned. What are you saying, that because those are banned Jayce kills your whole team?

Honestly you sound like the typical "I'm way better than my elo but my teammates drag me down" guy. You can make any champ in the game work. I hope you're not flaming your team before the game begins.
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