• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EST 19:39
CET 01:39
KST 09:39
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Behind the Blue - Team Liquid History Book15Clem wins HomeStory Cup 289HomeStory Cup 28 - Info & Preview13Rongyi Cup S3 - Preview & Info8herO wins SC2 All-Star Invitational14
Community News
ACS replaced by "ASL Season Open" - Starts 21/0218LiuLi Cup: 2025 Grand Finals (Feb 10-16)21Weekly Cups (Feb 2-8): Classic, Solar, MaxPax win2Nexon's StarCraft game could be FPS, led by UMS maker10PIG STY FESTIVAL 7.0! (19 Feb - 1 Mar)13
StarCraft 2
General
Nexon's StarCraft game could be FPS, led by UMS maker How do you think the 5.0.15 balance patch (Oct 2025) for StarCraft II has affected the game? Terran Scanner Sweep Behind the Blue - Team Liquid History Book Weekly Cups (Jan 12-18): herO, MaxPax, Solar win
Tourneys
LiuLi Cup: 2025 Grand Finals (Feb 10-16) PIG STY FESTIVAL 7.0! (19 Feb - 1 Mar) RSL Revival: Season 4 Korea Qualifier (Feb 14) Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament RSL Season 4 announced for March-April
Strategy
Custom Maps
Map Editor closed ? [A] Starcraft Sound Mod
External Content
The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 512 Overclocked Mutation # 511 Temple of Rebirth Mutation # 510 Safety Violation
Brood War
General
[ASL21] Potential Map Candidates Gypsy to Korea Which units you wish saw more use in the game? ACS replaced by "ASL Season Open" - Starts 21/02 Liquipedia.net NEEDS editors for Brood War
Tourneys
Escore Tournament StarCraft Season 1 [Megathread] Daily Proleagues Small VOD Thread 2.0 KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 1
Strategy
Fighting Spirit mining rates Zealot bombing is no longer popular? Simple Questions, Simple Answers Current Meta
Other Games
General Games
Path of Exile Diablo 2 thread Nintendo Switch Thread Battle Aces/David Kim RTS Megathread ZeroSpace Megathread
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas Vanilla Mini Mafia TL Mafia Community Thread
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Ask and answer stupid questions here! European Politico-economics QA Mega-thread The Games Industry And ATVI Russo-Ukrainian War Thread
Fan Clubs
The IdrA Fan Club The herO Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
[Manga] One Piece Anime Discussion Thread
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
ADHD And Gaming Addiction…
TrAiDoS
My 2025 Magic: The Gathering…
DARKING
Life Update and thoughts.
FuDDx
How do archons sleep?
8882
StarCraft improvement
iopq
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1991 users

[Patch 3.07: Nerf Everything Not Nami] General Discussion…

Forum Index > LoL General
Post a Reply
Prev 1 169 170 171 172 173 351 Next
Looks like we're back to status quo. Hope more of you lurkers unburrow and talk with us. :3

If you have any issues or comments about the new design, feel free to PM Neo.
zer0das
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States8519 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-28 04:17:54
May 28 2013 04:16 GMT
#3401
I still don't know exactly what beats Trundle top, other than your jangler lending a hand. Heals for so frakking much its ridiculous. Every single time the stupid troll gets away with a sliver of health, and then he gets a BotRK and its just pain.
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
May 28 2013 04:18 GMT
#3402
On May 28 2013 13:16 zer0das wrote:
I still don't know exactly what beats Trundle top, other than your jangler lending a hand. Due heals for so frakking much its ridiculous.

Oh please let this be a trend. Then we can get back to the days of super sustain tops with WW, Cho, and Udyr every game where top is just a farm fest for 99% of the game and then they come in with full builds and tank 5 people and Baron.
It's your boy Guzma!
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
May 28 2013 04:31 GMT
#3403
On May 28 2013 13:15 Requizen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 28 2013 13:04 kongoline wrote:
wonder how long till riot realises trundle is batshit OP ...

Funny because aside from a microslow and some number tweaks, he's pretty much the same as before. If anything, he's easier to kite since they removed his Tenacity.

Trundle's always been able to kill anything he reaches with his stupid stat boosts and drains. Shy's like that too. But now that people are playing him again they're like "oh right, he can just auto literally anything in the game to death".


Yea...because he is barely better than before...if at all.

Trundle is Viable, not OP. If he becomes "op" it will be because of nerfs to his main competitors.
Freeeeeeedom
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-28 04:32:42
May 28 2013 04:32 GMT
#3404
On May 28 2013 13:16 zer0das wrote:
I still don't know exactly what beats Trundle top, other than your jangler lending a hand. Heals for so frakking much its ridiculous. Every single time the stupid troll gets away with a sliver of health, and then he gets a BotRK and its just pain.

Choose late scaling champion, beat him in late game.
Or play highly mobile "play making" champion; shove out lane, wander around and make plays.
Dunno why people chop up LoL into just a lanephase game.
On May 28 2013 13:31 cLutZ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 28 2013 13:15 Requizen wrote:
On May 28 2013 13:04 kongoline wrote:
wonder how long till riot realises trundle is batshit OP ...

Funny because aside from a microslow and some number tweaks, he's pretty much the same as before. If anything, he's easier to kite since they removed his Tenacity.

Trundle's always been able to kill anything he reaches with his stupid stat boosts and drains. Shy's like that too. But now that people are playing him again they're like "oh right, he can just auto literally anything in the game to death".


Yea...because he is barely better than before...if at all.

Trundle is Viable, not OP. If he becomes "op" it will be because of nerfs to his main competitors.

Story of LoL.
liftlift > tsm
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
May 28 2013 04:41 GMT
#3405
On May 28 2013 13:32 wei2coolman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 28 2013 13:31 cLutZ wrote:
On May 28 2013 13:15 Requizen wrote:
On May 28 2013 13:04 kongoline wrote:
wonder how long till riot realises trundle is batshit OP ...

Funny because aside from a microslow and some number tweaks, he's pretty much the same as before. If anything, he's easier to kite since they removed his Tenacity.

Trundle's always been able to kill anything he reaches with his stupid stat boosts and drains. Shy's like that too. But now that people are playing him again they're like "oh right, he can just auto literally anything in the game to death".


Yea...because he is barely better than before...if at all.

Trundle is Viable, not OP. If he becomes "op" it will be because of nerfs to his main competitors.

Story of LoL.


Yea + Champs OP at introduction or buffed closely thereafter such as Zac/Zed/Thresh/(Formerly Vi)/Elise/KhaZix
Freeeeeeedom
kongoline
Profile Joined February 2012
6318 Posts
May 28 2013 04:45 GMT
#3406
what about new items and s3 changes which made some champions stronger than ever
Dark_Chill
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada3353 Posts
May 28 2013 04:47 GMT
#3407
I find that the ult change really did make a difference. The Q slow is also nice.
CUTE MAKES RIGHT
Ketara
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States15065 Posts
May 28 2013 04:53 GMT
#3408
Do you guys ever look up the PBE notes on lol wiki?

I hate how hard they are to get on reignofgaming, the wiki always has them nice and concise on one page: http://leagueoflegends.wikia.com/wiki/User_blog:Emptylord/PBE_Status

Speaking of, those Lissandra buffs look yummy. Annie too.
http://www.liquidlegends.net/forum/lol-general/502075-patch-61-league-of-legends-general-discussion?page=25#498
onlywonderboy
Profile Joined August 2012
United States23745 Posts
May 28 2013 04:54 GMT
#3409
On May 28 2013 13:16 zer0das wrote:
I still don't know exactly what beats Trundle top, other than your jangler lending a hand. Heals for so frakking much its ridiculous. Every single time the stupid troll gets away with a sliver of health, and then he gets a BotRK and its just pain.

Had a friend get completely rolled by Teemo in a few games when he was spamming Trundle in Blind Pick. Teemo has the ranged harrass to abuse him in lane and can even build a Morello's if you really need to deal with the sustain. Small sample size but I can see how Teemo would give him a hard time.
RIP Ryan Davis / TL or Die / @onlywonderboy
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35167 Posts
May 28 2013 05:00 GMT
#3410
On May 28 2013 13:53 Ketara wrote:
Do you guys ever look up the PBE notes on lol wiki?

I hate how hard they are to get on reignofgaming, the wiki always has them nice and concise on one page: http://leagueoflegends.wikia.com/wiki/User_blog:Emptylord/PBE_Status

Speaking of, those Lissandra buffs look yummy. Annie too.

"New item or two" for APs

Ugh, what else could they possibly need?
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
May 28 2013 05:00 GMT
#3411
On May 28 2013 13:54 onlywonderboy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 28 2013 13:16 zer0das wrote:
I still don't know exactly what beats Trundle top, other than your jangler lending a hand. Heals for so frakking much its ridiculous. Every single time the stupid troll gets away with a sliver of health, and then he gets a BotRK and its just pain.

Had a friend get completely rolled by Teemo in a few games when he was spamming Trundle in Blind Pick. Teemo has the ranged harrass to abuse him in lane and can even build a Morello's if you really need to deal with the sustain. Small sample size but I can see how Teemo would give him a hard time.

Teemo crushes most melees without a true gap closer. Kennen probably also fills that role, as do the standbys of Jayce/Nid/Elise. Unless you just let him stand around the creep wave getting HP back, his sustain shouldn't be out of control for several levels. Also, anyone who can disengage from him untill his buffs are down should do well, or anyone who can stack armor/doesn't use AD (due to his drain).
It's your boy Guzma!
c.Deadly
Profile Joined March 2010
United States545 Posts
May 28 2013 05:04 GMT
#3412
On May 28 2013 14:00 Gahlo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 28 2013 13:53 Ketara wrote:
Do you guys ever look up the PBE notes on lol wiki?

I hate how hard they are to get on reignofgaming, the wiki always has them nice and concise on one page: http://leagueoflegends.wikia.com/wiki/User_blog:Emptylord/PBE_Status

Speaking of, those Lissandra buffs look yummy. Annie too.

"New item or two" for APs

Ugh, what else could they possibly need?


The new items are for dominion and twisted treeline
Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
May 28 2013 05:16 GMT
#3413
It's hard for me to see the problem with Trundle when I play Nunu, Cho, Darius and Renekton atm. Idk, we definitely buffed him, but I don't think he's really that out of line... Looking at stats on lolking, he seems to have a normal pick rate now and his winrate has been hovering around 50% since the re-release, seems reasonable to me...

http://www.lolking.net/champions/trundle#statistics
mogwaismusings.wordpress.com
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
May 28 2013 05:17 GMT
#3414
On May 28 2013 14:16 Mogwai wrote:
It's hard for me to see the problem with Trundle when I play Nunu, Cho, Darius and Renekton atm. Idk, we definitely buffed him, but I don't think he's really that out of line... Looking at stats on lolking, he seems to have a normal pick rate now and his winrate has been hovering around 50% since the re-release, seems reasonable to me...

http://www.lolking.net/champions/trundle#statistics

Also, his 1v2 isn't that great either. A major factor in pro play.
liftlift > tsm
GhandiEAGLE
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States20754 Posts
May 28 2013 05:53 GMT
#3415
Here's a mind-blower; go Quinn top and just make Trundle cry for a few hours.
Oh, my achin' hands, from rakin' in grands, and breakin' in mic stands
Disengaged
Profile Joined July 2010
United States6994 Posts
May 28 2013 05:55 GMT
#3416
On May 28 2013 11:35 cLutZ wrote:
Does anyone have information on Soaz by the way? Probably played the worst of anyone in the tournament. Dyrus even made him look like a small child.


Hell no, yellowpete was without a doubt the worst lol
sung_moon
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States10110 Posts
May 28 2013 06:01 GMT
#3417
On May 28 2013 14:55 Disengaged wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 28 2013 11:35 cLutZ wrote:
Does anyone have information on Soaz by the way? Probably played the worst of anyone in the tournament. Dyrus even made him look like a small child.


Hell no, yellowpete was without a doubt the worst lol


Yea I don't understand how anyone can say Soaz was the worst EU player. Yellowpete literally ate every hook imaginable, gave up stupid kills in lane (I think one death he stood in lane with Varus Q on and literally Xpecial Thresh walked up to him and hooked him), on the front line like he was a tank, and overall just being really stupid (got ulted by Naut ult and he flashes behind Alex/Edward and knock them both up).
Forever Young
Leeto
Profile Joined August 2007
United States1320 Posts
May 28 2013 06:05 GMT
#3418
On May 28 2013 12:16 Vanka wrote:
if you have your lantern out as thresh, and then you recall or teleport, could you take someone with you if they timed picking the lantern up at the right time?


I haven't tested it, but I would assume you can't do it with recall since you have to throw the lantern before recalling and it would disappear before the channel completes. Teleport, however.. that would be interesting.
overt
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States9006 Posts
May 28 2013 06:10 GMT
#3419
On May 28 2013 14:53 GhandiEAGLE wrote:
Here's a mind-blower; go Quinn top and just make Trundle cry for a few hours.


It's really funny when Trundle pillars you and you just leap behind it making it harder for Trundle to get to you while you do free damage.
ManyCookies
Profile Joined December 2010
1164 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-28 06:16:35
May 28 2013 06:14 GMT
#3420
A question my playgroup was discussing; is it possible to construct an indefinite stun chain, including any mana requirements or other costs? A "stun" being a stun, suppress, fear or transformation.
Prev 1 169 170 171 172 173 351 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 1m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
SteadfastSC 184
Nathanias 137
PiGStarcraft25
StarCraft: Brood War
NaDa 20
Counter-Strike
taco 326
Super Smash Bros
Mew2King94
Heroes of the Storm
Khaldor173
Other Games
tarik_tv16391
summit1g10258
FrodaN3294
shahzam306
C9.Mang0240
KnowMe233
ToD157
ViBE48
minikerr8
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick648
BasetradeTV13
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 16 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Hupsaiya 70
• davetesta54
• musti20045 34
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Dota 2
• masondota2767
League of Legends
• Scarra1117
Other Games
• Shiphtur268
Upcoming Events
PiG Sty Festival
1m
Creator vs Nicoract
TBD vs YoungYakov
PiGStarcraft25
RSL Revival
2h 21m
RSL Revival
7h 21m
LiuLi Cup
10h 21m
Cure vs Reynor
Clem vs Maru
Rogue vs TriGGeR
ByuN vs Serral
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
11h 21m
RSL Revival
17h 21m
AI Arena Tournament
19h 21m
Replay Cast
23h 21m
Sparkling Tuna Cup
1d 9h
LiuLi Cup
1d 10h
[ Show More ]
Ladder Legends
1d 17h
Replay Cast
1d 23h
Replay Cast
2 days
LiuLi Cup
2 days
Wardi Open
2 days
Monday Night Weeklies
2 days
OSC
2 days
WardiTV Winter Champion…
3 days
Replay Cast
4 days
WardiTV Winter Champion…
4 days
Replay Cast
4 days
PiG Sty Festival
5 days
The PondCast
5 days
KCM Race Survival
5 days
WardiTV Winter Champion…
5 days
Replay Cast
5 days
PiG Sty Festival
6 days
Epic.LAN
6 days
Replay Cast
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Escore Tournament S1: W8
Rongyi Cup S3
Underdog Cup #3

Ongoing

KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 1
LiuLi Cup: 2025 Grand Finals
Nations Cup 2026
IEM Kraków 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter Qual
eXTREMESLAND 2025
SL Budapest Major 2025

Upcoming

[S:21] ASL SEASON OPEN 1st Round
[S:21] ASL SEASON OPEN 1st Round Qualifier
[S:21] ASL SEASON OPEN 2nd Round
[S:21] ASL SEASON OPEN 2nd Round Qualifier
Acropolis #4
IPSL Spring 2026
HSC XXIX
uThermal 2v2 2026 Main Event
Bellum Gens Elite Stara Zagora 2026
RSL Revival: Season 4
WardiTV Winter 2026
CCT Season 3 Global Finals
FISSURE Playground #3
IEM Rio 2026
PGL Bucharest 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 1
BLAST Open Spring 2026
ESL Pro League Season 23
ESL Pro League Season 23
PGL Cluj-Napoca 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.