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schmutttt
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Australia3856 Posts
May 25 2013 15:11 GMT
#2681
Apparently we get a new LoL cinematic tomorrow. Really hoping it is a step up from the dominion one. Doubt it will be blizzard level (I still get chills from the HotS opening cinematic) but still think it'll be good.

PLEASE HAVE NEW CHAMPS IN IT NO MORE RYZE AND KAT PLA
nojitosunrise
Profile Joined August 2011
United States6188 Posts
May 25 2013 15:20 GMT
#2682
On May 26 2013 00:11 schmutttt wrote:
Apparently we get a new LoL cinematic tomorrow. Really hoping it is a step up from the dominion one. Doubt it will be blizzard level (I still get chills from the HotS opening cinematic) but still think it'll be good.

PLEASE HAVE NEW CHAMPS IN IT NO MORE RYZE AND KAT PLA

Maybe it's LoL Supremacy?
LaM
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States1321 Posts
May 25 2013 15:32 GMT
#2683
On May 25 2013 22:26 Shikyo wrote:
So doing Diana QR korean style is OP as fk. It's not just a style thing, it's amazing.

Freelo here I come. Hopefully she's not banned alot after meganerfs.


What are you talking about? What is QR style supposed to be?
Anything is Possible
MoonBear
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Straight outta Johto18973 Posts
May 25 2013 15:37 GMT
#2684
On May 26 2013 00:32 LaM wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 25 2013 22:26 Shikyo wrote:
So doing Diana QR korean style is OP as fk. It's not just a style thing, it's amazing.

Freelo here I come. Hopefully she's not banned alot after meganerfs.


What are you talking about? What is QR style supposed to be?

You use Crescent Strike, and then while the Q is still in mid air you use Lunar Rush so they hit almost at the same time. That way your opponent doesn't have as much time to avoid the R follow up and because you fire Q just beforehand you get the instant reset.
ModeratorA dream. Do you have one that has cursed you like that? Or maybe... a wish?
Zdrastochye
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Ivory Coast6262 Posts
May 25 2013 15:39 GMT
#2685
On May 26 2013 00:37 MoonBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 26 2013 00:32 LaM wrote:
On May 25 2013 22:26 Shikyo wrote:
So doing Diana QR korean style is OP as fk. It's not just a style thing, it's amazing.

Freelo here I come. Hopefully she's not banned alot after meganerfs.


What are you talking about? What is QR style supposed to be?

You use Crescent Strike, and then while the Q is still in mid air you use Lunar Rush so they hit almost at the same time. That way your opponent doesn't have as much time to avoid the R follow up and because you fire Q just beforehand you get the instant reset.


And then you try to be pro and your R lands .001 seconds before your crescent strike and you don't get refresh.
Hey! How you doin'?
Lylat
Profile Joined August 2009
France8575 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-25 15:44:19
May 25 2013 15:44 GMT
#2686
On May 26 2013 00:11 schmutttt wrote:
Apparently we get a new LoL cinematic tomorrow. Really hoping it is a step up from the dominion one. Doubt it will be blizzard level (I still get chills from the HotS opening cinematic) but still think it'll be good.

PLEASE HAVE NEW CHAMPS IN IT NO MORE RYZE AND KAT PLA

When will we have a full LoL movie ? Riot pls..lol
ArchAngelSC
Profile Joined April 2012
England706 Posts
May 25 2013 15:48 GMT
#2687
On May 26 2013 00:37 MoonBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 26 2013 00:32 LaM wrote:
On May 25 2013 22:26 Shikyo wrote:
So doing Diana QR korean style is OP as fk. It's not just a style thing, it's amazing.

Freelo here I come. Hopefully she's not banned alot after meganerfs.


What are you talking about? What is QR style supposed to be?

You use Crescent Strike, and then while the Q is still in mid air you use Lunar Rush so they hit almost at the same time. That way your opponent doesn't have as much time to avoid the R follow up and because you fire Q just beforehand you get the instant reset.

I thought everyone did this? It's just common sense lol
zodde
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden1908 Posts
May 25 2013 16:00 GMT
#2688
On May 26 2013 00:48 ArchAngelSC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 26 2013 00:37 MoonBear wrote:
On May 26 2013 00:32 LaM wrote:
On May 25 2013 22:26 Shikyo wrote:
So doing Diana QR korean style is OP as fk. It's not just a style thing, it's amazing.

Freelo here I come. Hopefully she's not banned alot after meganerfs.


What are you talking about? What is QR style supposed to be?

You use Crescent Strike, and then while the Q is still in mid air you use Lunar Rush so they hit almost at the same time. That way your opponent doesn't have as much time to avoid the R follow up and because you fire Q just beforehand you get the instant reset.

I thought everyone did this? It's just common sense lol


Everyone does it, but if you time it on the milisecond, you can actually make it seem like your R lands before your Q does, and you still get the reset. Some koreans pros are really good at timing it right.
obesechicken13
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States10467 Posts
May 25 2013 16:01 GMT
#2689
On May 26 2013 00:48 ArchAngelSC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 26 2013 00:37 MoonBear wrote:
On May 26 2013 00:32 LaM wrote:
On May 25 2013 22:26 Shikyo wrote:
So doing Diana QR korean style is OP as fk. It's not just a style thing, it's amazing.

Freelo here I come. Hopefully she's not banned alot after meganerfs.


What are you talking about? What is QR style supposed to be?

You use Crescent Strike, and then while the Q is still in mid air you use Lunar Rush so they hit almost at the same time. That way your opponent doesn't have as much time to avoid the R follow up and because you fire Q just beforehand you get the instant reset.

I thought everyone did this? It's just common sense lol

Yeah so did I.
I think in our modern age technology has evolved to become more addictive. The things that don't give us pleasure aren't used as much. Work was never meant to be fun, but doing it makes us happier in the long run.
jliu
Profile Joined March 2011
282 Posts
May 25 2013 16:01 GMT
#2690
On May 25 2013 15:02 Jojo131 wrote:
Anyone care to fill me in on why a lot of people are anticipating AD kennen to make a splash in the meta? I keep hearing this in some streams and in the All-Stars games and I'm a bit lost.

It seems like teams are favoring stronger early-mid game adcs right now (blue ezreal, draven, etc...) or at least adcs that can dominate the laning phase and snowball. Kennen is one of those adcs that are very strong in early/mid game because of his potential for lane aggression.
Spaiku
Profile Joined July 2012
Spain1114 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-25 16:19:30
May 25 2013 16:13 GMT
#2691
I think Kennen is a lot better as AP

You lose so much of his team fight potencial when you play him as ad carry
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-25 16:20:02
May 25 2013 16:15 GMT
#2692
On May 26 2013 00:37 MoonBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 26 2013 00:32 LaM wrote:
On May 25 2013 22:26 Shikyo wrote:
So doing Diana QR korean style is OP as fk. It's not just a style thing, it's amazing.

Freelo here I come. Hopefully she's not banned alot after meganerfs.


What are you talking about? What is QR style supposed to be?

You use Crescent Strike, and then while the Q is still in mid air you use Lunar Rush so they hit almost at the same time. That way your opponent doesn't have as much time to avoid the R follow up and because you fire Q just beforehand you get the instant reset.

Basically you aim right at the opponent with both Q and R and then use E right as your R hits, pulling the opponent back to your Q and resetting your R even if they try to dodge the Q. OP.

On May 26 2013 01:00 zodde wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 26 2013 00:48 ArchAngelSC wrote:
On May 26 2013 00:37 MoonBear wrote:
On May 26 2013 00:32 LaM wrote:
On May 25 2013 22:26 Shikyo wrote:
So doing Diana QR korean style is OP as fk. It's not just a style thing, it's amazing.

Freelo here I come. Hopefully she's not banned alot after meganerfs.


What are you talking about? What is QR style supposed to be?

You use Crescent Strike, and then while the Q is still in mid air you use Lunar Rush so they hit almost at the same time. That way your opponent doesn't have as much time to avoid the R follow up and because you fire Q just beforehand you get the instant reset.

I thought everyone did this? It's just common sense lol


Everyone does it, but if you time it on the milisecond, you can actually make it seem like your R lands before your Q does, and you still get the reset. Some koreans pros are really good at timing it right.

You just do it as fast as possible, no timing required.

Everyone definitely doesn't do it.

On May 26 2013 01:00 zodde wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 26 2013 00:48 ArchAngelSC wrote:
On May 26 2013 00:37 MoonBear wrote:
On May 26 2013 00:32 LaM wrote:
On May 25 2013 22:26 Shikyo wrote:
So doing Diana QR korean style is OP as fk. It's not just a style thing, it's amazing.

Freelo here I come. Hopefully she's not banned alot after meganerfs.


What are you talking about? What is QR style supposed to be?

You use Crescent Strike, and then while the Q is still in mid air you use Lunar Rush so they hit almost at the same time. That way your opponent doesn't have as much time to avoid the R follow up and because you fire Q just beforehand you get the instant reset.

I thought everyone did this? It's just common sense lol


Everyone does it, but if you time it on the milisecond, you can actually make it seem like your R lands before your Q does, and you still get the reset. Some koreans pros are really good at timing it right.

It doesn't just seem like it, your Q lands about a second after the ult but resets anyway.

It even is so stupid that it doesn't reset if your Q would have oneshot the minions even if your ult doesn't kill it.
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
c.Deadly
Profile Joined March 2010
United States545 Posts
May 25 2013 16:20 GMT
#2693
On May 26 2013 00:39 Zdrastochye wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 26 2013 00:37 MoonBear wrote:
On May 26 2013 00:32 LaM wrote:
On May 25 2013 22:26 Shikyo wrote:
So doing Diana QR korean style is OP as fk. It's not just a style thing, it's amazing.

Freelo here I come. Hopefully she's not banned alot after meganerfs.


What are you talking about? What is QR style supposed to be?

You use Crescent Strike, and then while the Q is still in mid air you use Lunar Rush so they hit almost at the same time. That way your opponent doesn't have as much time to avoid the R follow up and because you fire Q just beforehand you get the instant reset.


And then you try to be pro and your R lands .001 seconds before your crescent strike and you don't get refresh.


there's like a 0.5s grace period, it's actually really easy to do
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
May 25 2013 16:26 GMT
#2694
You get it because there's a "grace" period where even if R hits first you still get it, and it's super long, like 0.4s or something, which makes me sick.

Also I just don't have any fun playing Sona anymore, I just feel so useless. I know a lot of her power comes from her auras, but the heal is weak, the damage is weak, and the MS buff is just utility. So apart from W/E powerchord and my ult, I feel useless past laning and early roaming/grouping stages. I dunno if it's me playing too badly (I usually build locket and crucible, aegis if noone does it) or the habit of playing higher-impact champs (Leona, Lulu, Zyra).

Her ult's a game changer, but often when I use it it doesn't feel like I did too much. Maybe it's tied to the teamcomps, last Sona game I had we had a tanky Lee jungle, Singed top, Anivia mid, and Ezreal, we should have been able to disengage/counterengage/kite/poke well I guess, but most of the fights I had to ult to save somebody (2 members of the team made a point of running 2v4 and feeding Vayne and we didn't have the resources to 100-0 her during a stun), and several times I got a 4-5 man ult to save an ally that got caught just to see him turn back and try to re-initiate 3v5 instead of running and regrouping.

Maybe I should only pick her in high damage teams, or against low mobility to make the most out of E. :/
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-25 16:32:09
May 25 2013 16:30 GMT
#2695
On May 26 2013 01:20 c.Deadly wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 26 2013 00:39 Zdrastochye wrote:
On May 26 2013 00:37 MoonBear wrote:
On May 26 2013 00:32 LaM wrote:
On May 25 2013 22:26 Shikyo wrote:
So doing Diana QR korean style is OP as fk. It's not just a style thing, it's amazing.

Freelo here I come. Hopefully she's not banned alot after meganerfs.


What are you talking about? What is QR style supposed to be?

You use Crescent Strike, and then while the Q is still in mid air you use Lunar Rush so they hit almost at the same time. That way your opponent doesn't have as much time to avoid the R follow up and because you fire Q just beforehand you get the instant reset.


And then you try to be pro and your R lands .001 seconds before your crescent strike and you don't get refresh.


there's like a 0.5s grace period, it's actually really easy to do

Yup, even if you plink it(about 1 frame in between Q and R and using smartcast) it resets it way after your ult lands. As I mentioned above, you can Q, ult in, and E to pull them into the Q. It's really stupid strong.

Again the only ones I've seen using this are the Koreans even though it indeed is extremely easy.
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
LaM
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States1321 Posts
May 25 2013 16:38 GMT
#2696
On May 26 2013 00:37 MoonBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 26 2013 00:32 LaM wrote:
On May 25 2013 22:26 Shikyo wrote:
So doing Diana QR korean style is OP as fk. It's not just a style thing, it's amazing.

Freelo here I come. Hopefully she's not banned alot after meganerfs.


What are you talking about? What is QR style supposed to be?

You use Crescent Strike, and then while the Q is still in mid air you use Lunar Rush so they hit almost at the same time. That way your opponent doesn't have as much time to avoid the R follow up and because you fire Q just beforehand you get the instant reset.


.... Hasn't every decent Diana player been doing this since near release? How are people attributing that as a Korean thing lmao. The Asian circlejerk never ends.
Anything is Possible
kainzero
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States5211 Posts
May 25 2013 16:41 GMT
#2697
sona is about managing power chords, not about auras.

also ever since watching OGN i've been manning up a lot, especially as support. flash/crescendo, flash/exhaust, flash/slow power chord, etc.

playing on the border of aggression, especially as support, is awesome and exciting

On May 26 2013 01:30 Shikyo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 26 2013 01:20 c.Deadly wrote:
On May 26 2013 00:39 Zdrastochye wrote:
On May 26 2013 00:37 MoonBear wrote:
On May 26 2013 00:32 LaM wrote:
On May 25 2013 22:26 Shikyo wrote:
So doing Diana QR korean style is OP as fk. It's not just a style thing, it's amazing.

Freelo here I come. Hopefully she's not banned alot after meganerfs.


What are you talking about? What is QR style supposed to be?

You use Crescent Strike, and then while the Q is still in mid air you use Lunar Rush so they hit almost at the same time. That way your opponent doesn't have as much time to avoid the R follow up and because you fire Q just beforehand you get the instant reset.


And then you try to be pro and your R lands .001 seconds before your crescent strike and you don't get refresh.


there's like a 0.5s grace period, it's actually really easy to do

Yup, even if you plink it(about 1 frame in between Q and R and using smartcast) it resets it way after your ult lands. As I mentioned above, you can Q, ult in, and E to pull them into the Q. It's really stupid strong.

Again the only ones I've seen using this are the Koreans even though it indeed is extremely easy.

lol plinking wtf
LaM
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States1321 Posts
May 25 2013 16:47 GMT
#2698
On May 26 2013 01:30 Shikyo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 26 2013 01:20 c.Deadly wrote:
On May 26 2013 00:39 Zdrastochye wrote:
On May 26 2013 00:37 MoonBear wrote:
On May 26 2013 00:32 LaM wrote:
On May 25 2013 22:26 Shikyo wrote:
So doing Diana QR korean style is OP as fk. It's not just a style thing, it's amazing.

Freelo here I come. Hopefully she's not banned alot after meganerfs.


What are you talking about? What is QR style supposed to be?

You use Crescent Strike, and then while the Q is still in mid air you use Lunar Rush so they hit almost at the same time. That way your opponent doesn't have as much time to avoid the R follow up and because you fire Q just beforehand you get the instant reset.


And then you try to be pro and your R lands .001 seconds before your crescent strike and you don't get refresh.


there's like a 0.5s grace period, it's actually really easy to do

Yup, even if you plink it(about 1 frame in between Q and R and using smartcast) it resets it way after your ult lands. As I mentioned above, you can Q, ult in, and E to pull them into the Q. It's really stupid strong.

Again the only ones I've seen using this are the Koreans even though it indeed is extremely easy.


K I was so confused by your mention of a Korean QR style when I and every other good Diana player I see has been abusing this for months, and then your statement that only Korean do it that I youtubed diana scarra. And literally the first video I get to shows him 'doing it' (I feel so silly saying that, everyone who plays Diana does this) in a random solo q game in the first gank I watched to:



Sorry... I just hate when people attribute stuff to the Asian scene that isn't special/original/whatever. They are good enough as is, we don't need to exaggerate everything by circlejerking to every thing they do.
Anything is Possible
Zdrastochye
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Ivory Coast6262 Posts
May 25 2013 16:49 GMT
#2699
Butbutbut 1/2 of our posters are Asian American/Europeans. They MUST love their nationality over their birthplaces, it's only right that they do!
Hey! How you doin'?
c.Deadly
Profile Joined March 2010
United States545 Posts
May 25 2013 16:53 GMT
#2700
On May 26 2013 01:38 LaM wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 26 2013 00:37 MoonBear wrote:
On May 26 2013 00:32 LaM wrote:
On May 25 2013 22:26 Shikyo wrote:
So doing Diana QR korean style is OP as fk. It's not just a style thing, it's amazing.

Freelo here I come. Hopefully she's not banned alot after meganerfs.


What are you talking about? What is QR style supposed to be?

You use Crescent Strike, and then while the Q is still in mid air you use Lunar Rush so they hit almost at the same time. That way your opponent doesn't have as much time to avoid the R follow up and because you fire Q just beforehand you get the instant reset.


.... Hasn't every decent Diana player been doing this since near release? How are people attributing that as a Korean thing lmao. The Asian circlejerk never ends.


I think Misaya was the first person to do it consistently and impressively in a pro game during the season 2 playoffs. He really took Diana to another level, and I think only got to play her in 1 game because of that (she was banned always). But you're right, it's really nothing special now. One of the biggest criticisms of the nerf that took Diana's R range to 750 was how incompatible that range was with her Q range, because at that point everyone was casting R and Q simultaneously.
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