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Numy
South Africa35471 Posts
On May 05 2013 11:07 LoCicero wrote: Riding the Karma train. Soniv is right, the buffs make her pretty damn strong. Also, a ton of fun; I am also garbage at using Mantra well. Zac train seems to be a bit more easy going huehuehue | ||
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Shikyo
Finland33997 Posts
On May 05 2013 11:11 Ketara wrote: I laughed. And I'd rather do it in the Quinn thread, but basically. We want to know a bunch of things, but for starters: Math behind AD reds vs. Apen reds on Quinn. It's prob obvious that Apen becomes better late game, but depending on target armor, is it also better early game? Also which item gives more early game burst damage, Brutalizer or Bilgewater Cutlass. It depends on the ratio of base damage to bonus damage. For Quinn armor penetration is obviously far better because of her shit ratios. You don't need maths for this. However, APen Marks are still quite weak and won't become better until around lvl 5 and like 2 Doran Blades anyway. APen Quints + AD Marks > AD Marks + AD Quints for her, though. Interestingly enough, the higher target armor is the better flat AD seems to be. For example vs 30 armor and 50 armor, AD is better vs 50. | ||
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Ketara
United States15065 Posts
And this is for mid lane, where we assume targets start with like, 30 armor tops. At what level does Apen become better? | ||
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Amui
Canada10567 Posts
On May 05 2013 11:26 Shikyo wrote: It depends on the ratio of base damage to bonus damage. For Quinn armor penetration is obviously far better because of her shit ratios. You don't need maths for this. However, APen Marks are still quite weak and won't become better until around lvl 5 and like 2 Doran Blades anyway. APen Quints + AD Marks > AD Marks + AD Quints for her, though. Interestingly enough, the higher target armor is the better flat AD seems to be. For example vs 30 armor and 50 armor, AD is better vs 50. Always always put AD quints, arpen marks. Huge efficiency loss to ever put non-AD in quints when you need AD. | ||
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BlackPaladin
United States9316 Posts
lol | ||
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Zdrastochye
Ivory Coast6262 Posts
On May 05 2013 11:34 BlackPaladin wrote: qtpie: "I'm not sure what lissandra's doing but I'm pretty sure the enemy team has less an idea of what she's doing" lol qtpie has been on a roll today, especially considering the Riven NA tourny. If only he got interviewed after Dig's wins he'd have a much bigger fanbase. | ||
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overt
United States9006 Posts
On May 05 2013 11:44 Zdrastochye wrote: qtpie has been on a roll today, especially considering the Riven NA tourny. If only he got interviewed after Dig's wins he'd have a much bigger fanbase. I'm pretty much certain that both Dignitas and Riot don't want to interview qtpie ever after an LCS game. The only real interview he's ever done was with Odee sitting right beside him for the entire interview lol. | ||
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Capricious_LoL
United States222 Posts
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Zdrastochye
Ivory Coast6262 Posts
On May 05 2013 11:47 overt wrote: I'm pretty much certain that both Dignitas and Riot don't want to interview qtpie ever after an LCS game. The only real interview he's ever done was with Odee sitting right beside him for the entire interview lol. I don't question then for doing that, at all, just pointing it out as an observation. He has a personality that most LoL fans would find entertaining, albeit rated R. | ||
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Shikyo
Finland33997 Posts
Anyway I guess you want all AD runes for the early game, Harrier base dmg is kind of bad early on. APen is much better later though... If you start with an AD item like a Doran Blade and Longsword and have AD Quints, then APen becomes a lot better because it helps with Harrier's bad early base damage. On May 05 2013 11:47 Capriccioso wrote: Pretty sure HP regen quints are worse than armor, same principle rejuv beads are worse than cloth. Um no, it depends. They also have a better cost-efficiency than rejuv beads in comparison to cloth. 291.5 gold value vs 255,6 | ||
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Capricious_LoL
United States222 Posts
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Shikyo
Finland33997 Posts
Still, hp regen could let you gain an advantage in those situations where you both have ran out of potions.. | ||
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Ketara
United States15065 Posts
On May 05 2013 11:53 Shikyo wrote: I have no clue why you'd run lifesteal quints. Anyway I guess you want all AD runes for the early game, Harrier base dmg is kind of bad early on. APen is much better later though... If you start with an AD item like a Doran Blade and Longsword and have AD Quints, then APen becomes a lot better because it helps with Harrier's bad early base damage. Can you post your math for this? | ||
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jcarlsoniv
United States27922 Posts
On May 05 2013 11:07 LoCicero wrote: Riding the Karma train. Soniv is right, the buffs make her pretty damn strong. Also, a ton of fun; I am also garbage at using Mantra well. Validated by Loci. All you haters can suck my dick. Yeah, Mantra use is still pretty hairy for me as well. Early on, it usually goes to Q. Sometimes I like to use it on W cuz of the healing. Later team fights it's almost always designated to E - Locket + Shurelia way too good to pass up. | ||
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cLutZ
United States19574 Posts
What would be the most boring "Best XXX" champion mirror matchup tournament. My early submission would be Alistar. | ||
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overt
United States9006 Posts
On May 05 2013 12:16 cLutZ wrote: With the Best Riven tournament going on, I want to ask: What would be the most boring "Best XXX" champion mirror matchup tournament. My early submission would be Alistar. Soraka would be a game of who can mash Q more. | ||
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lastshadow
United States1372 Posts
On May 05 2013 11:53 Shikyo wrote: I have no clue why you'd run lifesteal quints. Anyway I guess you want all AD runes for the early game, Harrier base dmg is kind of bad early on. APen is much better later though... If you start with an AD item like a Doran Blade and Longsword and have AD Quints, then APen becomes a lot better because it helps with Harrier's bad early base damage. Um no, it depends. They also have a better cost-efficiency than rejuv beads in comparison to cloth. 291.5 gold value vs 255,6 MVPimp / CptJack run 2 lifesteal quints and 1 armor pen quint, on every AD they play. | ||
MoonBear
Straight outta Johto18973 Posts
On May 05 2013 12:16 cLutZ wrote: With the Best Riven tournament going on, I want to ask: What would be the most boring "Best XXX" champion mirror matchup tournament. My early submission would be Alistar. At least with Ali you can try Flash-Headbutt into tower. Nunu, Janna, Leona or Soraka would get stale very quickly. | ||
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Zdrastochye
Ivory Coast6262 Posts
On May 05 2013 12:16 cLutZ wrote: With the Best Riven tournament going on, I want to ask: What would be the most boring "Best XXX" champion mirror matchup tournament. My early submission would be Alistar. Nunu. Or Taric. | ||
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nafta
Bulgaria18893 Posts
On May 05 2013 12:20 lastshadow wrote: MVPimp / CptJack run 2 lifesteal quints and 1 armor pen quint, on every AD they play. Pretty sure every single person who plays adc and can afford them plays with lifesteal lol. | ||
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