EPTwhether that does help you win lane depends on comps. Only all in bot comps really make hp quints worth it. Any harass and armour quints are better because of all the pots and w heals you have for hp to scale with the quints.
[Patch 3.06: Lissandra Patch] General Discussion - Page 144
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Slayer91
Ireland23470 Posts
whether that does help you win lane depends on comps. Only all in bot comps really make hp quints worth it. Any harass and armour quints are better because of all the pots and w heals you have for hp to scale with the quints. | ||
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kainzero
United States5211 Posts
i keep losing my lissy games even though i do well. i've been going RoA/Zhonya's/Warmogs or Morellos. it feels like she's super squishy so in order to use my abilities i have to be tanky. the short cooldown Q makes me think that you need to be spamming it, but if you don't build tanky then you just blow up instantly. the short range on her Q also gives a lot of difficult matchups for her in lane. syndra just absolutely smashed me. | ||
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h3r1n6
Iceland2039 Posts
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Kouda
United States2205 Posts
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nosliw
United States2716 Posts
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Alaric
France45622 Posts
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Dusty
United States3359 Posts
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Ryuu314
United States12679 Posts
On May 11 2013 06:37 Dusty wrote: I think the thing stopping from Hydra/Tiamat being good items is they way they get reduced damage at the edges. If it were like the old tiamat I would like it a lot better. New Tiamat is strictly better than old Tiamat if you're just talking about the splash. The new Tiamat has a larger splash radius with reduced damage at the edges. Old Tiamat had a considerably smaller splash radius. The new Tiamat basically just added extra splash radii. | ||
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Kouda
United States2205 Posts
On May 11 2013 06:27 Alaric wrote: Nope, but it "fills" the autoattack cooldown, so as long as you don't have crit/on-hit effects it's basically the same in effect. So it isn't a pure AA reset, but its still godtier for the cost imo ~~~ <3 | ||
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soverelgne
United Kingdom72 Posts
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Dusty
United States3359 Posts
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onlywonderboy
United States23745 Posts
On May 11 2013 04:40 kainzero wrote: anyone having lissandra success? i keep losing my lissy games even though i do well. i've been going RoA/Zhonya's/Warmogs or Morellos. it feels like she's super squishy so in order to use my abilities i have to be tanky. the short cooldown Q makes me think that you need to be spamming it, but if you don't build tanky then you just blow up instantly. the short range on her Q also gives a lot of difficult matchups for her in lane. syndra just absolutely smashed me. I've been going Chalice -> Zhonya's -> Grail ->Dcap and then whatever with pretty decent success. Chalice/Grail is nice because you can push waves with impunity and her wave clear is quite good (also CDR is nice on her for Q spam). I don't care for RoA on her. Building tanky on her is nice, but I think you might be itemizing too heavily into defense. While E-ing into the team and ulting yourself is cool, a lot of times it's just more effective to ult someone on the enemy team. I find myself ulting myself more often as a counter engage sort of thing. | ||
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iCanada
Canada10660 Posts
ARAM not fun anymore. Everyone at my ARAM elo (Rcord is 33-13) is just ARAM smurf. Every game has atleast three of Anivia, Yi, Ziggs, Nidalee, Veigar, Maokai or Xerath. Game basically decided by which team gets more free weeks and which team gets more smurf champions. Its frustrating because I miss the actually solid fun ARAM's I was having before where people with melee champs not auto lose because the just get poked to death cuz they bad. | ||
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kainzero
United States5211 Posts
On May 11 2013 07:05 onlywonderboy wrote: I've been going Chalice -> Zhonya's -> Grail ->Dcap and then whatever with pretty decent success. Chalice/Grail is nice because you can push waves with impunity and her wave clear is quite good (also CDR is nice on her for Q spam). I don't care for RoA on her. Building tanky on her is nice, but I think you might be itemizing too heavily into defense. While E-ing into the team and ulting yourself is cool, a lot of times it's just more effective to ult someone on the enemy team. I find myself ulting myself more often as a counter engage sort of thing. well, the way i've been playing in teamfights is usually as initiate. it's pretty easy to get into the back line with E, then ult one of them, root everyone around you, and then fire missiles while trying to get out of there. if I don't get defense then I usually blow up right after the root. i'm not sure if i'm having playstyle issues or itemization issues. even then, with Zhonya's/RoA the ERWQ combo is good for 3/4 health on squishies. | ||
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arb
Noobville17922 Posts
On May 10 2013 10:47 Zooper31 wrote: I saw the new champ and was like wtf too lol. Seems like they're putting him back of the bus for this new champ. interesting to see how this hero works | ||
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TheNikeYork
United States389 Posts
On May 11 2013 07:50 arb wrote: Seems like they're putting him back of the bus for this new champ. interesting to see how this hero works HAHA RACISM | ||
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beefhamburger
United States3962 Posts
On May 11 2013 07:37 iCanada wrote: Zzzz... ARAM not fun anymore. Everyone at my ARAM elo (Rcord is 33-13) is just ARAM smurf. Every game has atleast three of Anivia, Yi, Ziggs, Nidalee, Veigar, Maokai or Xerath. How do you see record? I don't find most champs too terrible to deal with, but my teammates do ~_~. I think a good Lux is probably the worse offender. | ||
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onlywonderboy
United States23745 Posts
On May 11 2013 07:45 kainzero wrote: well, the way i've been playing in teamfights is usually as initiate. it's pretty easy to get into the back line with E, then ult one of them, root everyone around you, and then fire missiles while trying to get out of there. if I don't get defense then I usually blow up right after the root. i'm not sure if i'm having playstyle issues or itemization issues. even then, with Zhonya's/RoA the ERWQ combo is good for 3/4 health on squishies. Sounds like a difference in play style mostly. The E combo makes her initiation seem appealing, but I've found it's usually not ideal. I've had much more success with waiting for someone else to initiate (usually the Jungler) and following up with my skills. Her ratios are decent so I like building the mix of CDR and AP. | ||
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101toss
3232 Posts
i dont know how tiamat lee sin became a thing, it's worse than tear jayce/khazix | ||
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onlywonderboy
United States23745 Posts
On May 11 2013 08:10 101toss wrote: tiamat is not op i dont know how tiamat lee sin became a thing, it's worse than tear jayce/khazix Wait...you think Tear on Jayce and Kha is bad? | ||
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