EPT[Patch 3.05: Balance Update] General Discussion - Page 29
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Pokebunny
United States10654 Posts
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Zooper31
United States5714 Posts
On April 12 2013 11:43 Pokebunny wrote: Poke as in to poke a bunny, not as in pokemon. Three syllables. HE HAS SPOKEN! Let it be done! | ||
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LateralusGaming
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On April 12 2013 11:04 Zooper31 wrote: The LoL forum are utter trash and are just full of trolls, 12yr olds and people who just want to complain. I dare say they are worse than Bnet forums. Can't even bring them into discussion really unles you are linking a Red post or something. This 100x over. I hate the LoL Forums so much. TL and Reddit are the only real things I check now. Solomid forums are full of idiots and Lolpro forums are dead and everyone on Mobafire is a pro Bronze League player giving shoddy advice. | ||
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Ketara
United States15065 Posts
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eParadox
Canada132 Posts
Maybe even more toxic. | ||
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ticklishmusic
United States15977 Posts
wait, didnt riot say they made it so the jungle would be roughly equal to a solo lane in gold, or am i just crazy? | ||
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Alaric
France45622 Posts
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Zdrastochye
Ivory Coast6262 Posts
On April 12 2013 11:59 ticklishmusic wrote: chicken makes a point i agree with, the jungler's role is to maximize the amount of gold he can find, even if its not necessarily in the jungle. wait, didnt riot say they made it so the jungle would be roughly equal to a solo lane in gold, or am i just crazy? Not roughly equal, well they did at first, but later they clarified that they wanted junglers to have CLOSER to solo lane of gold, which they definitely do from S2. | ||
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Eiii
United States2566 Posts
On April 12 2013 12:02 Zdrastochye wrote: Not roughly equal, well they did at first, but later they clarified that they wanted junglers to have CLOSER to solo lane of gold, which they definitely do from S2. why not just give them a solo lane of gold and make the game more interesting? :S | ||
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red_
United States8474 Posts
On April 12 2013 12:15 Eiii wrote: why not just give them a solo lane of gold and make the game more interesting? :S Because Riot didn't like how junglers could actually be the 100% dominant force in games in season 1, apparently that's a role only reserved for laners. | ||
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Zdrastochye
Ivory Coast6262 Posts
On April 12 2013 12:15 Eiii wrote: why not just give them a solo lane of gold and make the game more interesting? :S Because then it'd be a "free lane" for hypercarries to get farmed with very little risk. It's pretty nice to have the choice to shut them down by ganking them to stop them from getting out of hand. I don't actually dislike this, but I'm putting up this pure conjecture that may or may not be why Riot hasn't done it. | ||
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cLutZ
United States19574 Posts
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Ketara
United States15065 Posts
I think that would be cool, but that's just me. | ||
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Eiii
United States2566 Posts
On April 12 2013 12:31 Ketara wrote: I'd like to see them figure out a way to make it so that clearing jungle camps gives you more gold/exp than a solo lane does, but only if you're clearing 100% of the time and never gank. I think that would be cool, but that's just me. I feel like they said they aren't doing this because then lanes have an incentive to take jungle camps, but I don't really get what the problem with that is. | ||
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cLutZ
United States19574 Posts
+ Show Spoiler + ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/SsQFn5Y.png) 5 camps (2 that spawn super slowly) is not enough to sustain an interesting jungle, and one of the main camps is too close to midlane to punish people farming there. But, even if they increased jungle farm substantially it wouldn't matter, junglers start the game 300g behind, and because the jungle sucks to farm, and dragon is important, realistically they have to "invest" 700g into items that are not good for the rest of the game. | ||
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thenexusp
United States3721 Posts
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onlywonderboy
United States23745 Posts
On April 12 2013 12:31 Ketara wrote: I'd like to see them figure out a way to make it so that clearing jungle camps gives you more gold/exp than a solo lane does, but only if you're clearing 100% of the time and never gank. I think that would be cool, but that's just me. That's alright, I'd prefer to avoid a 6 item Trynd coming out of the Jungle. I mean you could try and shut him down in the Jungle but I feel like that requires a certain level of coordination not seen in soloq. | ||
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Ketara
United States15065 Posts
On April 12 2013 12:58 thenexusp wrote: I would actually rather not have them incentivize clearing jungle camps 24/7. It's kinda boring~ It wouldn't have to be boring, it would just promote counterplay. If one team has a jungler who never ganks but is going to reach a really scary late game if you don't shut him down, and the other team has a jungler who ganks, the impetus is on the team with the ganking jungler to get shit done. What it would do IMO is make it so more varied team compositions are allowable. But again, just my opinion. | ||
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cLutZ
United States19574 Posts
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Amui
Canada10567 Posts
On April 12 2013 13:06 cLutZ wrote: I do agree that there is simply not enough Strong junglers now. Strong in what way? The only currently seen jungler's who have damage that remains relevant the whole game are Xin(assuming you have a damage item like ghostblade), noct(if he gets an ungodly level of farm for a jungler to remain tanky with one or two damage items), and all the new ones who have % damage. Lategame a lot of the junglers rely a lot more on utility than damage. I actually don't think adding camps to the jungle will affect the strength of stuff like J4/Xin who will most likely still being spending a lot of time just sitting around lanes( I know on those two, for the first 10 minutes of the game I mostly just take wraiths/wolves and then just walk back and forth between lanes. Ideal balance would be to add enough allow stuff like skarner and WW to hit 6 a minute or so faster, while also not having so much farm that a tryndamere can sit in jungle, have his team lose all outers by 20 minutes and still win because he's been farming everything and comes out to 3 shot all your squishies. | ||
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