EPTI am practicing Quinn mid, it looks like it has potential. ARGUMENT GO
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Ketara
United States15065 Posts
I am practicing Quinn mid, it looks like it has potential. ARGUMENT GO | ||
TheYango
United States47024 Posts
Misaya solo mid Quinn for you. His opinion is that she has a lot of potential as a strong gank-oriented mid, but she needs a good start and isn't a strong teamfighter--if she gets ganked/suppressed in lane or doesn't get a good gank tempo, she has trouble teamfighting effectively later. | ||
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Ketara
United States15065 Posts
Her 5v5 is pretty atrocious though, since she more or less can't use her ult till the fight is over unless she's crazy snowballed. | ||
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sob3k
United States7572 Posts
self peel you say? its not good early but If you can get your BOTRK, Mogs, and SV, Zephyr, BT you become kind of absurd 25% slow from Q every 3 seconds + 50% slow field if you are attacking W heals 25% missing life which is about 700hp usually with SV, and 2 second snare every 8.5 seconds, Shield hastes 60% every 7.5 sec, plus 250 or 400 shield BOTRK speed/life steal Tenacity from zephyr 3k hp Mantra everyfuckingwhere so you just run around and kite and are completely uncatchable, mantra is 27 second cd and reduced a second on every auto and 2 on each skill, so you get it basically every skill CD while kiting, you can decide if you need it for healing or the 50% slow field and good damage, or hasting/shielding your whole team. I would bet this is hands down the slipperiest build in the game. Nobody can run from you either, no fucking way so if you catch anyone anywhere they are just totally fucked, its pretty entertaining. Best nubstomp build ever Its kinda tricky to play, hard to kite and remember to spam mantra and hit your Q's at the same time, but cool. http://beta.lol.fanrealm.net/n6lyK5bRc81d0xtgoaMn/ | ||
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Mensol
14536 Posts
top: the rain man jungle: XJ9 ADC: Thewingingsalton support: Thewingingsalton mid: chu i was hoping for better team from trm ~.~ | ||
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Juicyfruit
Canada5484 Posts
On April 05 2013 03:04 TheYango wrote: Being able to clear from 1050 range is very different from having to use a PbAoE skill to do it. You can't walk up to W a wave when 3+ enemy heroes are trying to push a tower. This kind of playstyle is just better on a hero that has 1-2 primary nukes. Lissandra's damage dealing ability is spread fairly evenly among all 4 of her spells, so you have to be using all of them to push out all your damage output. Her single spell damage is mediocre--but she's scaled around having 4 nukes that all do AoE damage. If you're just using Q from the backline and using W defensively, why are you not just playing a different AP with a kit more specifically focused on their generic nuke ? Because she just seems like the definitive versatile team-fighting champion; she has several options depending on the enemy's positioning in teamfights. If you rely on E for damage then you have to dive into the enemy team right away if you want to do any damage at all whereas if you build for sustain damage with Q you can time your E->W combo exactly when you want. You're probably right about E being better than W to level up. | ||
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Phunkapotamus
United States496 Posts
On April 05 2013 02:54 Slayer91 wrote: lol is dying heard it here first I had to go look why. It's just because of a tournament. Don't incite a panic!!!!!! On April 05 2013 03:10 Ketara wrote: What else should we argue about? I am practicing Quinn mid, it looks like it has potential. ARGUMENT GO R to help lanes is amazing, but the CD is super long that you better make something of it. Cool trick that Jatt said on LCS stream about her E: If you use it in melee range it puts you at further distance than if you did it from ranged. If you do it ranged it assumes you're trying to chase so it puts you a little inside max range so you can get an auto off. | ||
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TheYango
United States47024 Posts
On April 05 2013 03:19 Juicyfruit wrote: You're probably right about E being better than W to level up. Then we agree, because i think Q should be maxed first as well. I just think 3rd rank E is a priority to link it's CD with W's. | ||
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sob3k
United States7572 Posts
look how long it takes at 1:18 zhonyas looks core so you can pop it after your combo and have enough of your team come in to allow you to claw out in the chaos, that or getting real tanky or you could be like fuck it i did my job and just die lol | ||
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Seuss
United States10536 Posts
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TheYango
United States47024 Posts
On April 05 2013 03:31 sob3k wrote: The thing is you cant really use her E to escape a flashed in initiate because she has to wait for the slow ass claw to get to its destination before swapping with it, meanwhile she is just standing there in the middle of the enemy team. Its not like Puck where he actually turns into the projectile. What are you talking about? Puck doesn't turn into the projectile. Illusory Orb and Glacial Path function the same way. Puck players protect themselves while Illusory Orb is flying by Phase Shifting while the Orb is in flight--and Lissandra can do the EXACT SAME THING with a self-cast Frozen Tomb. In fact, that interaction is probably why Frozen Tomb was even made to be a self-cast spell in the first place. | ||
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Shikyo
Finland33997 Posts
We could argue Diana's ability to make plays and carry teams in solo queue, I guess >.> On April 05 2013 03:19 Phunkapotamus wrote: I had to go look why. It's just because of a tournament. Don't incite a panic!!!!!! R to help lanes is amazing, but the CD is super long that you better make something of it. Cool trick that Jatt said on LCS stream about her E: If you use it in melee range it puts you at further distance than if you did it from ranged. If you do it ranged it assumes you're trying to chase so it puts you a little inside max range so you can get an auto off. I thought that "trick" was widely known even before she was released. What really sucks about her E is that it's so incredibly slow and clunky it lowers your DPS by a ton and a half. On April 05 2013 03:41 TheYango wrote: What are you talking about? Puck doesn't turn into the projectile. Illusory Orb and Glacial Path function the same way. Puck players protect themselves while Illusory Orb is flying by Phase Shifting while the Orb is in flight--and Lissandra can do the EXACT SAME THING with a self-cast Frozen Tomb. In fact, that interaction is probably why Frozen Tomb was even made to be a self-cast spell in the first place. If her E lasts for long enough to allow Zhonya teleportation, that could allow for some really nice plays... Otherwise you'd just need to waste your ult on that. | ||
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sob3k
United States7572 Posts
On April 05 2013 03:41 TheYango wrote: What are you talking about? Puck doesn't turn into the projectile. Illusory Orb and Glacial Path function the same way. Puck players protect themselves while Illusory Orb is flying by Phase Shifting while the Orb is in flight--and Lissandra can do the EXACT SAME THING with a self-cast Frozen Tomb. In fact, that interaction is probably why Frozen Tomb was even made to be a self-cast spell in the first place. oops, dota nub status revealed. really? It seems like a long travel time but over 1.5 seconds? It seems like the claw would have expired by the time you come out of stasis. It def should be possible, would be cool, but it doesn't look like it from the vid. | ||
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TheYango
United States47024 Posts
On April 05 2013 03:43 Shikyo wrote: If her E lasts for long enough to allow Zhonya teleportation, that could allow for some really nice plays... Otherwise you'd just need to waste your ult on that. It definitely doesn't last 2.5 seconds, which made me sad. | ||
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Mensol
14536 Posts
i wish i had enough ip/rp for her T_T | ||
AsmodeusXI
United States15536 Posts
On April 05 2013 03:00 onlywonderboy wrote: Guess that's what happens when no big name LoL players are on and the Star Ladder Finals are going on for Dota 2  But yeah, it is weird not seeing LoL in first ha. Don't worry: LCS is on soon. =D | ||
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WhiteDog
France8650 Posts
On April 05 2013 00:59 TheYango wrote: Ahri hardly has "a lot of mobility and CC". She has a good mobility ult and 1 unreliable single-target CC. It's not unreliable at all, it's love. It never let you down. I'm all behind Requizen, I would love to see Lissandra evolving to be a beast engage and mobility and not so bursty as a lot of other heroes. | ||
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Gahlo
United States35167 Posts
+ Show Spoiler + (responding to somebody with karma flair) (has EG flair)KARMA WORST CHAMPION LEAGUE OF LEGENDS 36% WIN-RATE WHAT ARE YOU CLG? > I WOULDNT BE TALKING, YOU HAVE THE SAME AMOUNT OF WINS AS CLG. | ||
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AsnSensation
Germany24009 Posts
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LateralusGaming
119 Posts
On April 05 2013 03:53 Mensol wrote: Lissandra's ulti is definitely one of the best in game. i wish i had enough ip/rp for her T_T She won't be out for a while, you got 1-3 weeks to farm up some IP. :D 1 more hour! Kind of hoping coL beats CLG. Doublelift is an ass. | ||
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