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sob3k
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States7572 Posts
March 27 2013 17:11 GMT
#1861
On March 27 2013 22:30 Lounge wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 27 2013 21:14 phyvo wrote:
Imo one pillar on reset may not be enough, maybe he needs two pillars per reset.


This got me thinking what if all of his skills were just his pillar, just as a joke.

Now I really want to see a champion with 3 abilities that are all the same but they have their own individual cooldowns.


Shadowfiend from dota: Shadowfiend
In Hungry Hungry Hippos there are no such constraints—one can constantly attempt to collect marbles with one’s hippo, limited only by one’s hippo-levering capabilities.
Kyhron
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States945 Posts
March 27 2013 17:13 GMT
#1862
On March 28 2013 02:11 sob3k wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 27 2013 22:30 Lounge wrote:
On March 27 2013 21:14 phyvo wrote:
Imo one pillar on reset may not be enough, maybe he needs two pillars per reset.


This got me thinking what if all of his skills were just his pillar, just as a joke.

Now I really want to see a champion with 3 abilities that are all the same but they have their own individual cooldowns.


Shadowfiend from dota: Shadowfiend

Except that thats just 1 ability with 3 seperate casts. You level 1 you level all 3. Similar but not exactly the same if you want to get nit picky
Crownlol
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States3726 Posts
March 27 2013 17:18 GMT
#1863
On March 28 2013 01:56 ticklishmusic wrote:


2good


Also:
Show nested quote +
Does TSM have a sub for every position? The only position which had no sub was support. WildTurtle was going to be a sub for AD or Mid and Wings either for Top or Jungle. Dan guesses everyone could figure playing support within a week of time so it wasn't a high priority.


With that attitude towards support, well, that explains a lot.


Yeah, the opposite attitude towards support is what puts the Koreans in such a solid position right now.
shaGuar :: elemeNt :: XeqtR :: naikon :: method
zulu_nation8
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
China26351 Posts
March 27 2013 17:24 GMT
#1864
not a lot of teams have a sub support because there are not a lot of supports in general, also wings can't jungle. You are allowed two subs so obviously not every role will have a sub, and obviously pro players know that you can't just learn support in two weeks.
WhiteDog
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France8650 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-27 17:26:24
March 27 2013 17:24 GMT
#1865
On March 28 2013 02:10 TheYango wrote:
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On March 28 2013 02:04 TheLink wrote:
That video in a nutshell is why I'm a TSM fan. Dignitas/CLG don't have anything close to that inspiring. Curse might.

I miss Chaox already, shame the Reginald/Chaox fights had to come to a head.

Chaox was an asshole and half the reason I didn't like TSM.

Though I'm biased because I like both Saint and Loco.

It's quite easy to judge without actually being there or knowing the full story behind an individual behavior.

On March 28 2013 02:24 zulu_nation8 wrote:
not a lot of teams have a sub support because there are not a lot of supports in general, also wings can't jungle. You are allowed two subs so obviously not every role will have a sub, and obviously pro players know that you can't just learn support in two weeks.

Are you sure they are allowed two subs ? I'm pretty sure they need to have at least 2 sub but can have more. WingofDeath + Dandinh + Wildturtle is already 3 sub.
"every time WhiteDog overuses the word "seriously" in a comment I can make an observation on his fragile emotional state." MoltkeWarding
Serelitz
Profile Joined April 2011
Netherlands2895 Posts
March 27 2013 17:26 GMT
#1866
TSM had 3 subs before Chaox got replaced too, Dan/Wings/Turtle. Still none of them are really amazing supports I guess.
TheKefka
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Croatia11752 Posts
March 27 2013 17:29 GMT
#1867
I'm currently out of the loop with competitive LoL,is there a good thread explaining why Chaox left and the situation with tsm?
Cackle™
ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
March 27 2013 17:30 GMT
#1868
Obviously I'm biased as a support player, but saying that its a role that you could pick up in a couple weeks (implying other roles take so much more effort and time to learn) is a pretty bad attitude towards the game.
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overt
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States9006 Posts
March 27 2013 17:30 GMT
#1869
On March 28 2013 02:29 TheKefka wrote:
I'm currently out of the loop with competitive LoL,is there a good thread explaining why Chaox left and the situation with tsm?


Wait until the latest episode of their reality TV show when all questions will be answered.
jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
March 27 2013 17:32 GMT
#1870
On March 28 2013 02:30 overt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 28 2013 02:29 TheKefka wrote:
I'm currently out of the loop with competitive LoL,is there a good thread explaining why Chaox left and the situation with tsm?


Wait until the latest episode of their reality TV show when all questions will be answered.


It's just out. (Just saw TSM tweet). Unfortunately I'm at work and can't watch it
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WhiteDog
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France8650 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-27 18:06:31
March 27 2013 17:33 GMT
#1871
On March 28 2013 02:30 ticklishmusic wrote:
Obviously I'm biased as a support player, but saying that its a role that you could pick up in a couple weeks (implying other roles take so much more effort and time to learn) is a pretty bad attitude towards the game.

If you watch the best EU team, Gambit and Fnatic, their support are always a big part of their win. nRated is I think the shot caller, and Edward is more important than his ad carry Genja in half of the game I watched lol. So I don't think you are biased at all : support are pretty important, more than ad carry imo.
"every time WhiteDog overuses the word "seriously" in a comment I can make an observation on his fragile emotional state." MoltkeWarding
AsnSensation
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany24009 Posts
March 27 2013 17:35 GMT
#1872
Lets GO!

http://www.gamespot.com/events/game-crib-tsm-snapdragon/video.html?sid=6406058
thenexusp
Profile Joined May 2009
United States3721 Posts
March 27 2013 17:37 GMT
#1873
On March 28 2013 01:36 Requizen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 28 2013 01:35 jcarlsoniv wrote:
On March 28 2013 00:50 jcarlsoniv wrote:
On March 28 2013 00:05 ZERG_RUSSIAN wrote:
On March 27 2013 23:33 jcarlsoniv wrote:
On March 27 2013 23:26 nyxnyxnyx wrote:
there's a guy in SEA who got 4 accounts to challenger with annie


Yeah. If you look on elobuff, I'm actually really high up there for summoners that play Annie (or so I'm told, I don't actually have elobuff)

how 2 annie tho

soniv pls


21/0/9
MPen/Armor/MR/AP
R>W>Q>E

Boots+3pots -> catalyst -> RoA rush

From there, build what you need. I usually get DCap+Void next, but getting abyssal and/or zhonya when necessary works too.

If leaning against an assassin or bruiser, start cloth+5 and rush the zhonya.

Pay attention to your passive and use it wisely. Kill bitches, acquire elo.


Oh, and if you aren't using panda Annie, you're doing it wrong

But Frostfire OP broken

frostfire's been in line with the other skins since the visual rework that made her stun-smoke bigger in general

also panda annie has the #1 recall animation in the game
even if poledancing slay bell kat was still in
ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
March 27 2013 17:45 GMT
#1874
On March 28 2013 02:35 AsnSensation wrote:
Lets GO!

http://www.gamespot.com/events/game-crib-tsm-snapdragon/video.html?sid=6406058


lmao

intro video was snapdragon ad
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Mondeezy
Profile Joined August 2011
United States1938 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-27 17:47:54
March 27 2013 17:47 GMT
#1875
On March 28 2013 02:37 thenexusp wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 28 2013 01:36 Requizen wrote:
On March 28 2013 01:35 jcarlsoniv wrote:
On March 28 2013 00:50 jcarlsoniv wrote:
On March 28 2013 00:05 ZERG_RUSSIAN wrote:
On March 27 2013 23:33 jcarlsoniv wrote:
On March 27 2013 23:26 nyxnyxnyx wrote:
there's a guy in SEA who got 4 accounts to challenger with annie


Yeah. If you look on elobuff, I'm actually really high up there for summoners that play Annie (or so I'm told, I don't actually have elobuff)

how 2 annie tho

soniv pls


21/0/9
MPen/Armor/MR/AP
R>W>Q>E

Boots+3pots -> catalyst -> RoA rush

From there, build what you need. I usually get DCap+Void next, but getting abyssal and/or zhonya when necessary works too.

If leaning against an assassin or bruiser, start cloth+5 and rush the zhonya.

Pay attention to your passive and use it wisely. Kill bitches, acquire elo.


Oh, and if you aren't using panda Annie, you're doing it wrong

But Frostfire OP broken

frostfire's been in line with the other skins since the visual rework that made her stun-smoke bigger in general

also panda annie has the #1 recall animation in the game
even if poledancing slay bell kat was still in


Idk...my new Draven skin's recall animation chant gets me fkn pumped bro.

Especially after you get the ace, snap.
LoL NA: Mondeezy - TL - Riven <3
zulu_nation8
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
China26351 Posts
March 27 2013 17:58 GMT
#1876
On March 28 2013 02:30 ticklishmusic wrote:
Obviously I'm biased as a support player, but saying that its a role that you could pick up in a couple weeks (implying other roles take so much more effort and time to learn) is a pretty bad attitude towards the game.


no ones ever said that wtf
rackdude
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States882 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-27 18:05:26
March 27 2013 18:04 GMT
#1877
Support really doesn't get the respect it deserves. The big way to show this is that the win rates for certain supports from loking are ridiculously high, and since it's more than one it seems to not be a fluke. People who know how to support win games, it's just harder to see but with the large amounts of data we can definitely see that they have as much impact on the game (if not more) than other roles. Janna and Sona having a similar win rate to Amumu after thousands of games for the last few patches is more than just a fluke, it's a trend. The people playing these champs are doing it right, moreso than "broken" champs "carrying".
Sweet.
WhiteDog
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France8650 Posts
March 27 2013 18:05 GMT
#1878
On March 28 2013 02:35 AsnSensation wrote:
Lets GO!

http://www.gamespot.com/events/game-crib-tsm-snapdragon/video.html?sid=6406058

Well chaox took it like a man. Pretty impressed by his behavior. Still don't understand what he did to get kick tho. It all comes down to his animosity towards Regi I suppose.
Ho Dyrus, he's a really good guy.
"every time WhiteDog overuses the word "seriously" in a comment I can make an observation on his fragile emotional state." MoltkeWarding
Shotcoder
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States2316 Posts
March 27 2013 18:06 GMT
#1879
On March 28 2013 02:58 zulu_nation8 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 28 2013 02:30 ticklishmusic wrote:
Obviously I'm biased as a support player, but saying that its a role that you could pick up in a couple weeks (implying other roles take so much more effort and time to learn) is a pretty bad attitude towards the game.


no ones ever said that wtf


Dan said that in his Vlog about Chaox when asked about subs on the team. He said they had Wings for top, him for jungle and Turtle for ADC/Mid and they would just train someone up that week if they needed a support.
Shotcoder - C+ BW Terran, Gold LoL(ADC Main)
ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-27 18:08:15
March 27 2013 18:07 GMT
#1880
On March 28 2013 02:58 zulu_nation8 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 28 2013 02:30 ticklishmusic wrote:
Obviously I'm biased as a support player, but saying that its a role that you could pick up in a couple weeks (implying other roles take so much more effort and time to learn) is a pretty bad attitude towards the game.


no ones ever said that wtf


dan dinh basically just said that.

anywho i like wildturtle. he seems like a happy dude, always smiling. cait draven real lane bullies tho.
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