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[Patch 3.04: Zac] General Discussion - Page 93

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TheLink
Profile Joined January 2011
Australia2725 Posts
March 27 2013 15:52 GMT
#1841
Are Kenn/Vlad any good top lane nowadays? I'm too used to playing lane bullies like nidalee top (can't complain shake, bruiser nid got shit on more than lee top) and I'm really looking for someone that I don't feel pressured into killing my lane opponent or else falling behind. Preferably someone easy to just farm with. Do they meet this criteria? are they any good?
Only the weak link is strong enough to break the chain.
barbsq
Profile Joined November 2009
United States5348 Posts
March 27 2013 16:03 GMT
#1842
vlad is still good, kennen i have no idea
Look at this guy, constantly diluting himself! (╮°-°)╮┳━┳ ( ╯°□°)╯ ┻━┻
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
March 27 2013 16:07 GMT
#1843
On March 28 2013 00:52 Vanka wrote:
If I'm playing something like jungle alistar whose clear really suffers, do you think it's ever worth it to go madred's as well as spirit stone?


Don't play jungle Alistar. I don't think I could stress that enough. If you are thinking of playing jungle Alistar, just play Maokai and start Ground Slam > Twisted Advance. Or you can actually do a smiteless buff > lvl 3 gank with Mao.
Freeeeeeedom
sylverfyre
Profile Joined May 2010
United States8298 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-27 16:25:27
March 27 2013 16:08 GMT
#1844
People seem to be doing an interesting take on Kennen lately, going BOTRK (or just Bilgewater) -> AP items (mainly Rylai and Zhonyas)

He does have incredible Base AS and scaling AS (highest level 1 and level 18 AS in the game) so I guess it would work? You lane like an AD but can still get into the middle of a team and press R, I guess.

Edit: Why did I never see this before?+ Show Spoiler +
(Scrim of M5 v TSM with M5's voicechat and english closed captioning. Turn CC's on!)
"Maybe now [that gp10 show you how much gold they show] you'll stop buying them"

Diamond gasping when he heard about xin zhao rework (so this is pretty old but w/e)
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35174 Posts
March 27 2013 16:10 GMT
#1845
On March 28 2013 00:52 SnK-Arcbound wrote:
Reading chaox's facebook is like entering another dimension. In what world does he think that under-performing, and being late or not practicing would result in some sort of warning instead of being kicked?

But do you know the worst part? Someone is going to make a new fan fic of them inducting wildturtle to team tsm.

Worst, or best?
WhiteDog
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France8650 Posts
March 27 2013 16:22 GMT
#1846
On March 28 2013 00:52 SnK-Arcbound wrote:
Reading chaox's facebook is like entering another dimension. In what world does he think that under-performing, and being late or not practicing would result in some sort of warning instead of being kicked?

But do you know the worst part? Someone is going to make a new fan fic of them inducting wildturtle to team tsm.

Chaox was not underperforming. Xpecial was.
"every time WhiteDog overuses the word "seriously" in a comment I can make an observation on his fragile emotional state." MoltkeWarding
Louuster
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada2869 Posts
March 27 2013 16:29 GMT
#1847
On March 28 2013 01:22 WhiteDog wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 28 2013 00:52 SnK-Arcbound wrote:
Reading chaox's facebook is like entering another dimension. In what world does he think that under-performing, and being late or not practicing would result in some sort of warning instead of being kicked?

But do you know the worst part? Someone is going to make a new fan fic of them inducting wildturtle to team tsm.

Chaox was not underperforming. Xpecial was.


But, from what Xpecial and Dan have said, his performance has little to do with him being kicked anyway. Something happened in the time between when he was benched and when he was kicked that "upgraged" the punishment. Cue 10 min vlogs of dan telling us to watch gamecribs this week for details.
Kim Taek Yong fighting~
emperorchampion
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada9496 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-27 16:30:46
March 27 2013 16:30 GMT
#1848
On March 28 2013 00:52 TheLink wrote:
Are Kenn/Vlad any good top lane nowadays? I'm too used to playing lane bullies like nidalee top (can't complain shake, bruiser nid got shit on more than lee top) and I'm really looking for someone that I don't feel pressured into killing my lane opponent or else falling behind. Preferably someone easy to just farm with. Do they meet this criteria? are they any good?


There was some discussion on this starting on page 84, like half way down.

Edit: started here: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=18134289
TRUEESPORTS || your days as a respected member of team liquid are over
Serelitz
Profile Joined April 2011
Netherlands2895 Posts
March 27 2013 16:34 GMT
#1849
On March 27 2013 23:47 NeoIllusions wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 27 2013 23:14 Requizen wrote:
http://www.reignofgaming.net/news/23720-patch-3-5-tomorrow-server-maintenance-3-28-zac

[Patch 3.5: Zac NO FOR REAL GUYS I MEAN IT] General Discussion


WHAT ARE YOU TRYING TO SAY?!


Called it ^^
jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
March 27 2013 16:35 GMT
#1850
On March 28 2013 00:50 jcarlsoniv wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 28 2013 00:05 ZERG_RUSSIAN wrote:
On March 27 2013 23:33 jcarlsoniv wrote:
On March 27 2013 23:26 nyxnyxnyx wrote:
there's a guy in SEA who got 4 accounts to challenger with annie


Yeah. If you look on elobuff, I'm actually really high up there for summoners that play Annie (or so I'm told, I don't actually have elobuff)

how 2 annie tho

soniv pls


21/0/9
MPen/Armor/MR/AP
R>W>Q>E

Boots+3pots -> catalyst -> RoA rush

From there, build what you need. I usually get DCap+Void next, but getting abyssal and/or zhonya when necessary works too.

If leaning against an assassin or bruiser, start cloth+5 and rush the zhonya.

Pay attention to your passive and use it wisely. Kill bitches, acquire elo.


Oh, and if you aren't using panda Annie, you're doing it wrong
Soniv ||| Soniv#1962 ||| @jcarlsoniv ||| The Big Golem ||| Join the Glorious Evolution. What's your favorite aminal, a bear? ||| Joe "Don't call me Daniel" "Soniv" "Daniel" Carlsberg LXIX ||| Paging Dr. John Shadow
WhiteDog
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France8650 Posts
March 27 2013 16:36 GMT
#1851
On March 28 2013 01:29 Louuster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 28 2013 01:22 WhiteDog wrote:
On March 28 2013 00:52 SnK-Arcbound wrote:
Reading chaox's facebook is like entering another dimension. In what world does he think that under-performing, and being late or not practicing would result in some sort of warning instead of being kicked?

But do you know the worst part? Someone is going to make a new fan fic of them inducting wildturtle to team tsm.

Chaox was not underperforming. Xpecial was.


But, from what Xpecial and Dan have said, his performance has little to do with him being kicked anyway. Something happened in the time between when he was benched and when he was kicked that "upgraged" the punishment. Cue 10 min vlogs of dan telling us to watch gamecribs this week for details.

Yes, I don't really want to fuel the drama discussion, but chaox was not underperforming, just being a jerk to Reginald and having a bad mentality toward his team.
"every time WhiteDog overuses the word "seriously" in a comment I can make an observation on his fragile emotional state." MoltkeWarding
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
March 27 2013 16:36 GMT
#1852
On March 28 2013 01:35 jcarlsoniv wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 28 2013 00:50 jcarlsoniv wrote:
On March 28 2013 00:05 ZERG_RUSSIAN wrote:
On March 27 2013 23:33 jcarlsoniv wrote:
On March 27 2013 23:26 nyxnyxnyx wrote:
there's a guy in SEA who got 4 accounts to challenger with annie


Yeah. If you look on elobuff, I'm actually really high up there for summoners that play Annie (or so I'm told, I don't actually have elobuff)

how 2 annie tho

soniv pls


21/0/9
MPen/Armor/MR/AP
R>W>Q>E

Boots+3pots -> catalyst -> RoA rush

From there, build what you need. I usually get DCap+Void next, but getting abyssal and/or zhonya when necessary works too.

If leaning against an assassin or bruiser, start cloth+5 and rush the zhonya.

Pay attention to your passive and use it wisely. Kill bitches, acquire elo.


Oh, and if you aren't using panda Annie, you're doing it wrong

But Frostfire OP broken
It's your boy Guzma!
MoonBear
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Straight outta Johto18973 Posts
March 27 2013 16:38 GMT
#1853
On March 28 2013 01:35 jcarlsoniv wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 28 2013 00:50 jcarlsoniv wrote:
On March 28 2013 00:05 ZERG_RUSSIAN wrote:
On March 27 2013 23:33 jcarlsoniv wrote:
On March 27 2013 23:26 nyxnyxnyx wrote:
there's a guy in SEA who got 4 accounts to challenger with annie


Yeah. If you look on elobuff, I'm actually really high up there for summoners that play Annie (or so I'm told, I don't actually have elobuff)

how 2 annie tho

soniv pls


21/0/9
MPen/Armor/MR/AP
R>W>Q>E

Boots+3pots -> catalyst -> RoA rush

From there, build what you need. I usually get DCap+Void next, but getting abyssal and/or zhonya when necessary works too.

If leaning against an assassin or bruiser, start cloth+5 and rush the zhonya.

Pay attention to your passive and use it wisely. Kill bitches, acquire elo.


Oh, and if you aren't using panda Annie, you're doing it wrong

Don't hate on Reverse Annie
ModeratorA dream. Do you have one that has cursed you like that? Or maybe... a wish?
docvoc
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States5491 Posts
March 27 2013 16:43 GMT
#1854
On March 28 2013 01:38 MoonBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 28 2013 01:35 jcarlsoniv wrote:
On March 28 2013 00:50 jcarlsoniv wrote:
On March 28 2013 00:05 ZERG_RUSSIAN wrote:
On March 27 2013 23:33 jcarlsoniv wrote:
On March 27 2013 23:26 nyxnyxnyx wrote:
there's a guy in SEA who got 4 accounts to challenger with annie


Yeah. If you look on elobuff, I'm actually really high up there for summoners that play Annie (or so I'm told, I don't actually have elobuff)

how 2 annie tho

soniv pls


21/0/9
MPen/Armor/MR/AP
R>W>Q>E

Boots+3pots -> catalyst -> RoA rush

From there, build what you need. I usually get DCap+Void next, but getting abyssal and/or zhonya when necessary works too.

If leaning against an assassin or bruiser, start cloth+5 and rush the zhonya.

Pay attention to your passive and use it wisely. Kill bitches, acquire elo.


Oh, and if you aren't using panda Annie, you're doing it wrong

Don't hate on Reverse Annie

Que the hate.
User was warned for too many mimes.
Cloud9157
Profile Joined December 2010
United States2968 Posts
March 27 2013 16:55 GMT
#1855
I thought Chaox was actually doing at least acceptable. From the last gamecribs episode, they showed him doing pretty well with Ashe+Kog.

His problem was lack of commitment to being part of a team ie going out to party, showing up late to matches, etc.
"Are you absolutely sure that armor only affects the health portion of a protoss army??? That doesn't sound right to me. source?" -Some idiot
ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-27 17:01:24
March 27 2013 16:56 GMT
#1856


2good


Also:
Does TSM have a sub for every position? The only position which had no sub was support. WildTurtle was going to be a sub for AD or Mid and Wings either for Top or Jungle. Dan guesses everyone could figure playing support within a week of time so it wasn't a high priority.


With that attitude towards support, well, that explains a lot.
(╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻
Serelitz
Profile Joined April 2011
Netherlands2895 Posts
March 27 2013 17:03 GMT
#1857
I still remember locodoco's support lol. That shit was hilariously bad. I'm almost hoping xpecial gets sick so TSM has to sub in a support.
TheLink
Profile Joined January 2011
Australia2725 Posts
March 27 2013 17:04 GMT
#1858
That video in a nutshell is why I'm a TSM fan. Dignitas/CLG don't have anything close to that inspiring. Curse might.

I miss Chaox already, shame the Reginald/Chaox fights had to come to a head.
Only the weak link is strong enough to break the chain.
ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
March 27 2013 17:07 GMT
#1859
If you can have drama in the house but play the game well, that's acceptable to a degree-- doing what you're supposed to do well let's you get away with a lot of stuff. On the other hand, if your performance is meh and your attitude is meh, you better start reading the classified ads or do your best to fix one or both of those. Chaox did pretty much none of those things.
(╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
March 27 2013 17:10 GMT
#1860
On March 28 2013 02:04 TheLink wrote:
That video in a nutshell is why I'm a TSM fan. Dignitas/CLG don't have anything close to that inspiring. Curse might.

I miss Chaox already, shame the Reginald/Chaox fights had to come to a head.

Chaox was an asshole and half the reason I didn't like TSM.

Though I'm biased because I like both Saint and Loco.
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