EPTAlso, how the fk do you deal with AP Trynd top? I really don't want to start wasting a ban on him but holy crap as if the heal wasn't annoying enough he just split pushes all day ;_;
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Mondeezy
United States1938 Posts
Also, how the fk do you deal with AP Trynd top? I really don't want to start wasting a ban on him but holy crap as if the heal wasn't annoying enough he just split pushes all day ;_; | ||
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Crownlol
United States3726 Posts
On February 21 2013 02:02 NeoIllusions wrote: From what I'm reading, Crownlol is asking about playing a Jungler without Smite, not taking a Smiteless Blue and using it on Red instead, or vice versa. That said, not taking Smite on a Jungler is the epitome of stupidity. Not only would you have no way to contest for Dragon or Baron in a team situation, the enemy Jungler will counterjungle you all day. If he catches you doing a buff, he will last hit it for sure. Enjoy 1v1'ing the enemy Jungler who has your buffs. Edit: lol Yango. I, too, was baited by VayneAuthority. so gg. I actually brought up both, so I can understand the confusion. In a "not taking smite as jungle" scenario, you'd have someone else pick up smite on the team for dragon/baron. You'd have to play someone with a built-in minion execute (nunu/cho), or is a fantastic duelist. Probably still be rough once the other team SAW that you didn't have smite though. Zed top is sleeper OP, he can be insane in good hands. | ||
NeoIllusions
United States37500 Posts
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Ketara
United States15065 Posts
He brings absolutely nothing to a team pre 6 and post 6 other junglers do his job better. It'd be neat like, if he could get the first rank of his ult at level 4. Then he'd be cool. As is he's just awful. | ||
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NeoIllusions
United States37500 Posts
On February 21 2013 04:04 Ketara wrote: Warwick is such a terrible champion. I hope I'm not alone in thinking this. He brings absolutely nothing to a team pre 6 and post 6 other junglers do his job better. It'd be neat like, if he could get the first rank of his ult at level 4. Then he'd be cool. As is he's just awful. That goes for a lot of beta champions. Their kits fall short compared to all the newly released champs. I wonder what the "oldest" champion that consistently shows up in competitive play. Nunu and Jax probably. | ||
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Requizen
United States33802 Posts
On February 21 2013 04:09 NeoIllusions wrote: That goes for a lot of beta champions. Their kits fall short compared to all the newly released champs. I wonder what the "oldest" champion that consistently shows up in competitive play. Nunu and Jax probably. A lot of release champions still see play. Ryze, Trist, TF, Jax, Nunu, and Kayle (though she's been reworked) are the big ones, but Ashe, Ali, Annie, and Raka show up every now and then as well. | ||
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LaNague
Germany9118 Posts
He is still playble, though, especially toplane. He can still terror his lane, i have even seen voyboy falling to it last weekish. | ||
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Mondeezy
United States1938 Posts
On February 21 2013 04:09 NeoIllusions wrote: That goes for a lot of beta champions. Their kits fall short compared to all the newly released champs. I wonder what the "oldest" champion that consistently shows up in competitive play. Nunu and Jax probably. Jax had a pretty big overhaul though. I'm curious as to how many of the older champs such as Ashe and Warwick would be played more often in tourneys if they received a kit overhaul, or at least on one of their abilities (I'm looking at you, Ashe E). | ||
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GregMandel
France822 Posts
My favorite one is mid, especially against skillshot heavy champs, against lux it's so much fun, wanna q me ? Nvm tp into you. Oh is that your ult ? Oh it's ok I'll just use mine and take 0 dmg, and if you wanna slow me to run I still my R shadow, and meanwhile my W is going to be up soon so I can chase you and slow you :D His all in at 3 is too much for any squishy mid, I usually get fb after poking him with q a bit then when he's about 75% life l'll W onto him, tp, double E hit ( for the slow ), auto to aplly passive, one more Q and then ignite and walk away like a boss. FIRST BLOOD | ||
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NeoIllusions
United States37500 Posts
On February 21 2013 04:12 Requizen wrote: A lot of release champions still see play. Ryze, Trist, TF, Jax, Nunu, and Kayle (though she's been reworked) are the big ones, but Ashe, Ali, Annie, and Raka show up every now and then as well. Ryze, Jax, Kayle all had some serious rework. They look nothing like what they did in the beta. TF had that Destiny/Gate change right before the beta ended. Nunu is closest to the original I think. Only thing that's changed to his kit is the values on his abilities. | ||
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Mondeezy
United States1938 Posts
Consistent dot damage to apply the passive, as well as CC for his ult. | ||
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Crownlol
United States3726 Posts
On February 21 2013 04:21 Mondeezy wrote: Also, what do you guys think of Swain with Morellonomicon rush (or whatever it's called) into a Tanky ap build to counter AP Trynd? Consistent dot damage to apply the passive, as well as CC for his ult. Interesting... Swain is one of my favorite champs- you'd also have Q to slow him when he tries to pursue, and Swain loses nothing to chickenshout. Additionally, if he plays silly during his ult you can QE him when it's nearly over. You can get catalyst and armguards for tankiness early as well. | ||
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Purge
Canada372 Posts
On February 21 2013 04:09 NeoIllusions wrote: That goes for a lot of beta champions. Their kits fall short compared to all the newly released champs. I wonder what the "oldest" champion that consistently shows up in competitive play. Nunu and Jax probably. Most Consistently? Nunu or Anivia probably. Anivia moreso because she never dropped out of proffesional play like Nunu did in early season 2. | ||
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Ketara
United States15065 Posts
On February 21 2013 04:21 NeoIllusions wrote: Ryze, Jax, Kayle all had some serious rework. They look nothing like what they did in the beta. TF had that Destiny/Gate change right before the beta ended. Nunu is closest to the original I think. Only thing that's changed to his kit is the values on his abilities. Nunu will always be good because Blood Boil will always be good. He can't jungle anymore though. Jungle right now is this ridiculous powerfest where if you don't have a ranged gapcloser, hard CC, damage or tankiness without building any items and a strong level 2-4, there's no reason jungling. | ||
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Purge
Canada372 Posts
On February 21 2013 04:21 Mondeezy wrote: Also, what do you guys think of Swain with Morellonomicon rush (or whatever it's called) into a Tanky ap build to counter AP Trynd? Consistent dot damage to apply the passive, as well as CC for his ult. It could work but why not just use teemo and blind him as well? Then he is really useless. | ||
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UniversalSnip
9871 Posts
On February 21 2013 04:09 NeoIllusions wrote: That goes for a lot of beta champions. Their kits fall short compared to all the newly released champs. I wonder what the "oldest" champion that consistently shows up in competitive play. Nunu and Jax probably. are people playing singed in tournaments atm? he is literally the first champion they designed. | ||
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mordek
United States12705 Posts
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Shikyo
Finland33997 Posts
If we still had beta TF or Twitch or Jax or ... There's a reason they had to nerf them. | ||
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Ketara
United States15065 Posts
Try to get some actual statistical data on if the older a champion is the less they're played. I imagine there are a few outliers like Nunu, but for the most part older champions aren't used as much. | ||
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Gahlo
United States35166 Posts
On February 21 2013 03:28 Sufficiency wrote: I think with Amumu getting two nerfs per patch in the recent months, maybe Sejuani will see some play... eventually. Damn you Riot, must you ruin everything! | ||
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