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United States47024 Posts
On February 21 2013 04:44 Shikyo wrote: ;S Beta champions aren't that good compared to the new ones?
If we still had beta TF or Twitch or Jax or ... There's a reason they had to nerf them. Even TF in his current state is near must-ban/pick status in China/Korea. It's just that NA/EU don't use the hero.
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Im starting to feel like Bronze is a place where logic doenst work, you dont have to be better than the oponent, you only have to randomly luck out on the team mates, it's getting so annoying to have several days with very bad streaks when still winning lane just because people seem to be retards
 And my mmr placing against silvers msot of the time >.< Someone take me to gold!
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On February 21 2013 04:50 TheYango wrote:Show nested quote +On February 21 2013 04:44 Shikyo wrote: ;S Beta champions aren't that good compared to the new ones?
If we still had beta TF or Twitch or Jax or ... There's a reason they had to nerf them. Even TF in his current state is near must-ban/pick status in China/Korea. It's just that NA/EU don't use the hero.
Don't use him as good as them*.Even in solo q he is regularly banned so .
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On February 21 2013 04:52 Usagi wrote:Im starting to feel like Bronze is a place where logic doenst work, you dont have to be better than the oponent, you only have to randomly luck out on the team mates, it's getting so annoying to have several days with very bad streaks when still winning lane just because people seem to be retards  And my mmr placing against silvers msot of the time >.< Someone take me to gold! if you're in bronze and playing vs silvers does that mean silvers play like bronze?
also, remember, tf used to have a global too >_>
HOLY SHIT GOLIATH
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On February 21 2013 04:09 NeoIllusions wrote:Show nested quote +On February 21 2013 04:04 Ketara wrote: Warwick is such a terrible champion. I hope I'm not alone in thinking this.
He brings absolutely nothing to a team pre 6 and post 6 other junglers do his job better.
It'd be neat like, if he could get the first rank of his ult at level 4. Then he'd be cool. As is he's just awful. That goes for a lot of beta champions. Their kits fall short compared to all the newly released champs. I wonder what the "oldest" champion that consistently shows up in competitive play. Nunu and Jax probably.
Scumbag TL LoL Champions massively nerfed -->THEIR KITS ARENT STRONG ENOUGH
ww with fast madreds into boots of mobility ult gank is actually really strong, and ww is still quite stnorg when fed, the problem is the huge resist nerfs and wits end etc nerfs hurt champs like ww and udyr who relied a lot on resists.
His ganks pre 6 arent great but you can punish overextenders, you just dont kill ppl in the middle of lanes with flash up like with jarvan/vi/xin/amumu who are all getting nerfed pretty much (jarvan vi prolly not because they arent that great later)
buff so called not strong kit champs and you'll see every melee doesnt need a 6 second gap closer to be effective. everyone will be like AMG warwick op cant run from him, q does 20% of my hp with warmogs heals for 500, free 40% attack speed to whole team and 80% self buff and then instant 2 second huge nuke huge range gap closer supress and impossible to escape from in laning phase NERFF
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On February 21 2013 04:50 TheYango wrote:Show nested quote +On February 21 2013 04:44 Shikyo wrote: ;S Beta champions aren't that good compared to the new ones?
If we still had beta TF or Twitch or Jax or ... There's a reason they had to nerf them. Even TF in his current state is near must-ban/pick status in China/Korea. It's just that NA/EU don't use the hero.
EU has never used TF though. Even season1 when he still had global ult they didn't use him.
NA's AP mids are all really really bad. Like, no offense meant, but when Nyjacky is the best AP mid your scene has to offer there's a problem.
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Pootie too good!4331 Posts
"@LoLDyrus: lol these posts man. http://t.co/LbogbBqB "
Dyrus tweeted my fanclub thread. BOOM. Take that Asmo. You can have your front page reddit status.
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On February 21 2013 04:50 TheYango wrote:Show nested quote +On February 21 2013 04:44 Shikyo wrote: ;S Beta champions aren't that good compared to the new ones?
If we still had beta TF or Twitch or Jax or ... There's a reason they had to nerf them. Even TF in his current state is near must-ban/pick status in China/Korea. It's just that NA/EU don't use the hero.
How exactly do they play him?
I mean, are they just beastly with card selection? Every time I try to play him I feel like a derp, and I don't know when to utilize ganks properly and whatnot. Would love to see Misaya play him but he's always banned out ;_; lol.
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United States15536 Posts
On February 21 2013 05:05 JonGalt wrote:"@LoLDyrus: lol these posts man. http://t.co/LbogbBqB"Dyrus tweeted my fanclub thread. BOOM. Take that Asmo. You can have your front page reddit status.
*clicks link* -> "Sorry, this page doesn't exist."
YOU WERE SAYING?!
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PRETTY sure if WW's kit were buffed he'd be immovable in lane and just ult carries all day every day
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On February 21 2013 05:04 overt wrote:Show nested quote +On February 21 2013 04:50 TheYango wrote:On February 21 2013 04:44 Shikyo wrote: ;S Beta champions aren't that good compared to the new ones?
If we still had beta TF or Twitch or Jax or ... There's a reason they had to nerf them. Even TF in his current state is near must-ban/pick status in China/Korea. It's just that NA/EU don't use the hero. EU has never used TF though. Even season1 when he still had global ult they didn't use him. NA's AP mids are all really really bad. Like, no offense meant, but when Nyjacky is the best AP mid your scene has to offer there's a problem. wait what's wrong with nyjacky
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On February 21 2013 05:05 JonGalt wrote:"@LoLDyrus: lol these posts man. http://t.co/LbogbBqBDyrus tweeted my fanclub thread. BOOM. Take that Asmo. You can have your front page reddit status.
Fixed that for you
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On February 21 2013 05:00 Slayer91 wrote:Show nested quote +On February 21 2013 04:09 NeoIllusions wrote:On February 21 2013 04:04 Ketara wrote: Warwick is such a terrible champion. I hope I'm not alone in thinking this.
He brings absolutely nothing to a team pre 6 and post 6 other junglers do his job better.
It'd be neat like, if he could get the first rank of his ult at level 4. Then he'd be cool. As is he's just awful. That goes for a lot of beta champions. Their kits fall short compared to all the newly released champs. I wonder what the "oldest" champion that consistently shows up in competitive play. Nunu and Jax probably. Scumbag TL LoL Champions massively nerfed -->THEIR KITS ARENT STRONG ENOUGH ww with fast madreds into boots of mobility ult gank is actually really strong, and ww is still quite stnorg when fed, the problem is the huge resist nerfs and wits end etc nerfs hurt champs like ww and udyr who relied a lot on resists. His ganks pre 6 arent great but you can punish overextenders, you just dont kill ppl in the middle of lanes with flash up like with jarvan/vi/xin/amumu who are all getting nerfed pretty much (jarvan vi prolly not because they arent that great later) buff so called not strong kit champs and you'll see every melee doesnt need a 6 second gap closer to be effective. everyone will be like AMG warwick op cant run from him, q does 20% of my hp with warmogs heals for 500, free 40% attack speed to whole team and 80% self buff and then instant 2 second huge nuke huge range gap closer supress and impossible to escape from in laning phase NERFF Doesn't everyone buying health over resists help his Q? I'm guessing that doesn't outweigh the benefits being tanky with resists?
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yeah but q got buttraped as well if it was his old state of q he'd probably be very strong right now (16% -->20% max hp and 80%-->100% healed)
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On February 21 2013 05:10 Nos- wrote:Show nested quote +On February 21 2013 05:04 overt wrote:On February 21 2013 04:50 TheYango wrote:On February 21 2013 04:44 Shikyo wrote: ;S Beta champions aren't that good compared to the new ones?
If we still had beta TF or Twitch or Jax or ... There's a reason they had to nerf them. Even TF in his current state is near must-ban/pick status in China/Korea. It's just that NA/EU don't use the hero. EU has never used TF though. Even season1 when he still had global ult they didn't use him. NA's AP mids are all really really bad. Like, no offense meant, but when Nyjacky is the best AP mid your scene has to offer there's a problem. wait what's wrong with nyjacky
For a long time he could only play three champions in competitive play (Ryze, Morgana, Veigar). And now that he can run other APs and never plays any of his signature mids he's just a boring solid player. He's like bigfatjiji but his lane phase doesn't suck. He'll do his job but you will never see him make big plays. I'm pretty sure he'd go even in lane with the B-tier EU AP mids and just fail in comparison to any of the best EU, CN, or KR AP mids.
It's just funny to me and I think if you said a year ago that Nyjacky would one day be the best AP mid in North America no one would believe you. But obviously mad props to him for improving. He's good but the fact that he plays in NA makes him look a lot better than he actually is imo.
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On February 21 2013 05:09 Nos- wrote: PRETTY sure if WW's kit were buffed he'd be immovable in lane and just ult carries all day every day That's what he does anyway if you lane him.
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EUW hasn't caught on AP Trynd yet. Take that, NA fads!
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Wow, so much blame on TOO and Dyrus O.o
hahaha I love oddone.
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TF's ult is also good cuz its like a superduper good version of CV ever 60 seconds, even without the teleport.
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