[Patch 3.02: Fake Quinn] General Discussion - Page 154

On February 27 2013 18:17 jcc wrote:



Actually Cash Ashe is very good and thus far I've had a 100% win rate with it in every game, me being upper diamond 2 low diamond 1 currently. I also fielded it at a LAN. Ashe is assumed by the general community to have a weak laning phase. But the more I play her the more I feel that is false. Pair her win sona or zyra and you have a very strong lane with a devastating level 6. Every game I have gone WEWEWRWEWQEQQQ etc, doran's first, shove real hard level 1-3, abusing your LVL 1 dominance, and with that early shove shop fast at 800 gold. This doesn't put you behind lane trade wise because they either are still in lane or are backing too cuz you shoved fast. Q is unneeded due to double cc ults for optimum gank support. The average bonus gold I get is 900-1200 by 18-20 minutes without a TF on my team, it's about 1200-1600 with a TF. If you manage a kill or two you're astronomically ahead of the enemy adc.

People doubt cash Ashe but I've beaten folks like maplestreet and others in lane and just farmed hard and had a whole item up on the enemy adc even though they had more kills or towers, early E max and early avarice is broke as fuck on Ashe.

Also in regards to her trading ability, the most they'd have up on you during that avarice buy I'd a longsword or boots, which are both minimal. With sona or zyra cash Ashe is amazingly broken, and is only susceptible to heavy all in lanes, which then become free lanes when you both hit 6 and get free kills with jungler on command whenever you desire cuz all in lanes have to overextend to maintain lane control. To do this you also have to understand ashes power curves and how to appropriately abuse her range and auto W counter initiate harass.

On February 27 2013 20:55 EquilasH wrote:
To be honest I very rarely see people who try to go by call order - maybe it happens more the lower Elo you play at, I dunno. It just never seemed like a real problem to me.

@Teut I will never learn that role! I don't have a single support game this season.

On February 27 2013 20:55 EquilasH wrote:
To be honest I very rarely see people who try to go by call order - maybe it happens more the lower Elo you play at, I dunno. It just never seemed like a real problem to me.

@Teut I will never learn that role! I don't have a single support game this season.

On February 27 2013 20:55 LaNague wrote:
pick order is what counts, i will not let the newcomers ruin draft pick with their "MID OR FEED" spam.

Im pretty sure, if it really comes to it, riot would make a statement that ignoring the pick order would be a reportable offence.

On February 27 2013 20:58 Slayer91 wrote:


once you start getting last pick its gg

On February 27 2013 21:00 Argoth. wrote:

I am not so sure. This thread here has like 60 red replies, which indicate the opposite. Also reply from Pendragon.

On February 27 2013 23:02 Broetchenholer wrote:

And someone asked why MF got out of favour lately. If she is, it's likely because once autoattacked, she has no speed and no repositional skill to get her out of jarvan ult, away from xin etc.

On February 27 2013 23:02 Broetchenholer wrote:
This Griftrix guy is the most rage-inducing troll i have seen in a long time. It's like your dad being mad at you cause you came home with a black eye. Asking you why you started a fight and why you did not be just nice to the other person. And when you tell him, that they were picking on you and did it unprovoked, he just says that there are always 2 persons needed for a fight...

As for the ad-carry debate, my duo-partner yesterday got a pentakill at around 20 minute mark, catapulting him to 7/0/2. Ad-carries still do reasonable amounts of damage, you just can't be near any initiation anymore.

And someone asked why MF got out of favour lately. If she is, it's likely because once autoattacked, she has no speed and no repositional skill to get her out of jarvan ult, away from xin etc.

On February 27 2013 16:07 Shotcoder wrote:


why wish when you can? Seriously rushing Avarice blade on her is so retarded when you max e first. If you skip Shiv for PD and you get 180-200 CS at the 25-28 minute mark. You end up with an extra 2k+ gold which pays for the blade and gives you extra for another BF or starting your LW. And it doesnt matter if you lose lane early, you come back so fast because of the passive gold it's like you werent behind in the first place. The math is +7 gold per minion with full E and avarice. That a 1/3 ranged creep every CS. That's not even including the fact you might have a TF on your team.

On February 27 2013 23:09 sylverfyre wrote:

Honestly, no he isn't, and your analogy is shit. This isn't somebody punching you on the playground. This is people being stubborn in champ select, to which you do NOT have to be stubborn back. If somebody is like I ONLY PLAY MID then you can back down from your damn mid position and play something else, and not have a ragefest going on. Ragefests lose games and make the rest of your team hate both people involved. Just because you're higher in the pick order than him doesn't make you right and him wrong. Just because you asked "I'd like mid please" before he said anything, and he typed in allcaps doesn't make you right and him wrong, either.

Riot's rule is "Don't be a dick" and if they went either direction on 'respect picking order' or 'respect calling order' then people would use that as a platform to... be a giant dick because RIOT SAYS RESPECT [PICK/CALL] ORDER.