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Lmui
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada6213 Posts
February 21 2013 21:43 GMT
#2041
Well playing with low ELO friends in blinds is so terror. I get fed and the other team focuses me and exclusively me. Meaning that Sona crescendo's, Varus R's, Annie tibbers, garen flash QER, jax stun, etc all on me. Meaning that either i cleanse/QSS and jump away or I die.

This also means that every skill on the other team has been used on me and there is NO damage or CC coming out against everyone else on my team. Essentially whether I live or die is irrelevant. My team will clean up just because they've got all cooldowns and the other team doesn't.
KissBlade
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States5718 Posts
February 21 2013 21:44 GMT
#2042
OMG. I just found out Najin Sword's manager is MANTOSS REACH HIMSELF?!@#?!@#!!
Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23335 Posts
February 21 2013 21:46 GMT
#2043
On February 22 2013 06:18 WhiteDog wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 22 2013 06:16 EquilasH wrote:
Oh, I saw you earlier discussing boob sizes with HD

Yeah, existential discussion.


its okay yesterday or the day b4 we were talking about who we'd be a girlfriend of if you were a girl and had to pick any member of a pro team (did it for each team)

LOL
sylverfyre
Profile Joined May 2010
United States8298 Posts
February 21 2013 21:51 GMT
#2044
On February 22 2013 05:15 WhiteDog wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 22 2013 04:44 EquilasH wrote:
On February 22 2013 04:29 Scip wrote:
On February 22 2013 03:33 Nobu wrote:
hey guys, I'm not posting too much here but this whole TL team made me think about if TLIH would be possible in LoL. Inhouses in dota2 were really funny despite the skill disparity between players, so I don't think thats an issue. My biggest concern would be region restriction since it could be really hard to get 10 people in a custom game but who knows. Thoughts on that?

We used to have inhouses on EUW few months back, but generally I don't think people think it's worth it. Its main purpose back then was lenghtening your e-peen anyway, and people who lost had the tendency to get mad, which while fun, is not a very stable environment. Usually people just DuoQ now.

Back before the split of EUNE and EUW we used to have the most epic inhouses - but I think that was attributed to people not caring AS much about E-peen (obviously it was still a big thing) and the skill level being in general lower than it is now - except for Devil who just trolled and stomped.

Edit: Now whenever we play inhouses 5 people are trolling, 4 people are tryharding and 1 guy is dc while all 10 people are frustrated - it just doesn't seem worth it.
It would probably be a lot of fun if the better players took lead and everyone was tryharding (which actually seems to be the case in most DotA inhouses with mature people) - and it would be a learning experience for a lot of people.

Well, if there is too much level disparities between player, everything will just end up as a bad experience for everyone. It was most likely "epic" in the beginning of lol because, since the game was young, everybody just played bad.
I'll gladly tryhard with any TLer, but I don't need to get lectured everytime I get my ass stomped by a plat / diamond.

I dunno, I've played a lot of inhouses with and against many 2k Elos from TL and I've had mostly good experiences. Even with the skill disparity, I've laned against many better players than me, and learned a lot while also having fun. As long as all the players have the basic precepts down (which pretty much all of us do), it usually is fine. Especially when both teams are aware of where their good players are and compensate a bit for it.
JonGalt
Profile Joined February 2013
Pootie too good!4331 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-21 22:19:55
February 21 2013 22:18 GMT
#2045
On February 22 2013 06:44 KissBlade wrote:
OMG. I just found out Najin Sword's manager is MANTOSS REACH HIMSELF?!@#?!@#!!


Been man-tossing for about 9 months now

Edit: I haz gr8 maths skillz
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Mondeezy
Profile Joined August 2011
United States1938 Posts
February 21 2013 22:24 GMT
#2046
On February 22 2013 06:51 sylverfyre wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 22 2013 05:15 WhiteDog wrote:
On February 22 2013 04:44 EquilasH wrote:
On February 22 2013 04:29 Scip wrote:
On February 22 2013 03:33 Nobu wrote:
hey guys, I'm not posting too much here but this whole TL team made me think about if TLIH would be possible in LoL. Inhouses in dota2 were really funny despite the skill disparity between players, so I don't think thats an issue. My biggest concern would be region restriction since it could be really hard to get 10 people in a custom game but who knows. Thoughts on that?

We used to have inhouses on EUW few months back, but generally I don't think people think it's worth it. Its main purpose back then was lenghtening your e-peen anyway, and people who lost had the tendency to get mad, which while fun, is not a very stable environment. Usually people just DuoQ now.

Back before the split of EUNE and EUW we used to have the most epic inhouses - but I think that was attributed to people not caring AS much about E-peen (obviously it was still a big thing) and the skill level being in general lower than it is now - except for Devil who just trolled and stomped.

Edit: Now whenever we play inhouses 5 people are trolling, 4 people are tryharding and 1 guy is dc while all 10 people are frustrated - it just doesn't seem worth it.
It would probably be a lot of fun if the better players took lead and everyone was tryharding (which actually seems to be the case in most DotA inhouses with mature people) - and it would be a learning experience for a lot of people.

Well, if there is too much level disparities between player, everything will just end up as a bad experience for everyone. It was most likely "epic" in the beginning of lol because, since the game was young, everybody just played bad.
I'll gladly tryhard with any TLer, but I don't need to get lectured everytime I get my ass stomped by a plat / diamond.

I dunno, I've played a lot of inhouses with and against many 2k Elos from TL and I've had mostly good experiences. Even with the skill disparity, I've laned against many better players than me, and learned a lot while also having fun. As long as all the players have the basic precepts down (which pretty much all of us do), it usually is fine. Especially when both teams are aware of where their good players are and compensate a bit for it.


This. I learned a lot just from playing like five in houses with Durr and Shake. Had a ton of fun but idk, someone would always get butthurt if they got stomped in lane or somebody would troll and annoy the other team members.

Would love to start playing inhouses again, also have a few friends that are interested although they're not very good. LP was fun when I actually got to play it. The only thing that needs to happen is to not join without knowing that you will potentially get wrecked, and not to rage at your teammates. Keep it classy and semi strict and people should be made aware if its gonna be a troll game so they don't get pissed about wasting time.

My two cents at least. Recommended it in LP thread when it was all the hype.
LoL NA: Mondeezy - TL - Riven <3
Two_DoWn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States13684 Posts
February 21 2013 22:33 GMT
#2047
I mean, inhouses are good, but the best way to learn is to BEG people better than you to get into their actual MM games so you get pulled into their skill level.

I learned much more from playing with Naryt and QTPIE, Smash, 5hit, and Chrispy than I did from inhouses with those same people.

Except for Shake. Only thing I ever learned from Shake is that he cant play TF for shit.
"What is the air speed velocity of an unladen courier?" "Dire or Radiant?"
Roffles *
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
Pitcairn19291 Posts
February 21 2013 22:39 GMT
#2048
On February 22 2013 07:24 Mondeezy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 22 2013 06:51 sylverfyre wrote:
On February 22 2013 05:15 WhiteDog wrote:
On February 22 2013 04:44 EquilasH wrote:
On February 22 2013 04:29 Scip wrote:
On February 22 2013 03:33 Nobu wrote:
hey guys, I'm not posting too much here but this whole TL team made me think about if TLIH would be possible in LoL. Inhouses in dota2 were really funny despite the skill disparity between players, so I don't think thats an issue. My biggest concern would be region restriction since it could be really hard to get 10 people in a custom game but who knows. Thoughts on that?

We used to have inhouses on EUW few months back, but generally I don't think people think it's worth it. Its main purpose back then was lenghtening your e-peen anyway, and people who lost had the tendency to get mad, which while fun, is not a very stable environment. Usually people just DuoQ now.

Back before the split of EUNE and EUW we used to have the most epic inhouses - but I think that was attributed to people not caring AS much about E-peen (obviously it was still a big thing) and the skill level being in general lower than it is now - except for Devil who just trolled and stomped.

Edit: Now whenever we play inhouses 5 people are trolling, 4 people are tryharding and 1 guy is dc while all 10 people are frustrated - it just doesn't seem worth it.
It would probably be a lot of fun if the better players took lead and everyone was tryharding (which actually seems to be the case in most DotA inhouses with mature people) - and it would be a learning experience for a lot of people.

Well, if there is too much level disparities between player, everything will just end up as a bad experience for everyone. It was most likely "epic" in the beginning of lol because, since the game was young, everybody just played bad.
I'll gladly tryhard with any TLer, but I don't need to get lectured everytime I get my ass stomped by a plat / diamond.

I dunno, I've played a lot of inhouses with and against many 2k Elos from TL and I've had mostly good experiences. Even with the skill disparity, I've laned against many better players than me, and learned a lot while also having fun. As long as all the players have the basic precepts down (which pretty much all of us do), it usually is fine. Especially when both teams are aware of where their good players are and compensate a bit for it.


This. I learned a lot just from playing like five in houses with Durr and Shake. Had a ton of fun but idk, someone would always get butthurt if they got stomped in lane or somebody would troll and annoy the other team members.

Would love to start playing inhouses again, also have a few friends that are interested although they're not very good. LP was fun when I actually got to play it. The only thing that needs to happen is to not join without knowing that you will potentially get wrecked, and not to rage at your teammates. Keep it classy and semi strict and people should be made aware if its gonna be a troll game so they don't get pissed about wasting time.

My two cents at least. Recommended it in LP thread when it was all the hype.

The only time I recall people getting insanely mad was when someone got crushed by stxz' AP Tryn LOL. I remember fuckin JingleHell getting all pissed about it. "HES TROLLING AND HES STILL CRUSHING ME THATS SO STUPID FUCK THIS GAME U GUYS ARE FUCKING RETARDED I HATE U ALL OMFG PLZ DIE".

It's only bad if people make it bad. I've played in countless trollhouses or even serious IHs or a combination of both where it's pretty fun if everyone just tries to make the best of it. There's no point of QQing and crying because a guy who's 800 elo higher than you stomped you in lane. That shit's to be expected. Just ask yourself stuff like "Why did I lose lane. How did he outplay me?" or even ask them what you could have done better. The only time you make it a big deal is if they're willing to help and you're not willing to accept that you're bad.

When people can't take criticism, they usually get pissed, and that usually leads to disagreements and arguments. I'm not sure how EU does this, but a few months ago when NA still played IHs in LP, it was pretty damn good in that higher level players would try playing new shit or different roles or even trying a lot less just to make it a better game with lower skill players. Even then, if that wasn't the case, you'd just get someone else on the other team to balance it out in terms of skill.

Then again, about 90% of the games I played in turned into trollhouses.
God Bless
HazMat
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States17077 Posts
February 21 2013 23:12 GMT
#2049
On February 22 2013 07:33 Two_DoWn wrote:
I mean, inhouses are good, but the best way to learn is to BEG people better than you to get into their actual MM games so you get pulled into their skill level.

I learned much more from playing with Naryt and QTPIE, Smash, 5hit, and Chrispy than I did from inhouses with those same people.

Except for Shake. Only thing I ever learned from Shake is that he cant play TF for shit.

I make it my goal to suck when I play with TL'ers. Like, no lie. If you played with me in an inhouse or even normal game I was probably doing bad on purpose. It's a really awkward spot to be where you can ruin everyone's game by stomping so I just do bad to save myself the trouble.
www.youtube.com/user/ShakeDrizzle | League and SSBM content creator | Armada's Youtube Editor
swim224
Profile Joined May 2010
Botswana368 Posts
February 21 2013 23:20 GMT
#2050
On February 22 2013 08:12 HazMat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 22 2013 07:33 Two_DoWn wrote:
I mean, inhouses are good, but the best way to learn is to BEG people better than you to get into their actual MM games so you get pulled into their skill level.

I learned much more from playing with Naryt and QTPIE, Smash, 5hit, and Chrispy than I did from inhouses with those same people.

Except for Shake. Only thing I ever learned from Shake is that he cant play TF for shit.

I make it my goal to suck when I play with TL'ers. Like, no lie. If you played with me in an inhouse or even normal game I was probably doing bad on purpose. It's a really awkward spot to be where you can ruin everyone's game by stomping so I just do bad to save myself the trouble.

I remember that ap maok game -_- That shit is terrifying when you're 1200 elo.
....unless Taeja suddenly parachutes into the studio with explosions behind him and lands on a skateboard which he jumps over the booth before jumping in. If that happened it would be so sweet it would be physically impossible for them to lose. - Haydin
IMoperator
Profile Joined October 2011
4476 Posts
February 21 2013 23:24 GMT
#2051
Ap yi has to be the most annoying person to go against mid for sure. Q you can't dodge + it makes him untargettable, then any damage you do just gets healed up in less than a second.
Ketara
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States15065 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-21 23:48:07
February 21 2013 23:46 GMT
#2052
AP Yi is the most annoying thing in the entire goddamn game. If I could have one champion removed from the game it would be Yi. He's a terrible champion.

He's either completely useless or batshit OP depending on the game because his entire kit revolves around resets giving him an instant quadra kill IF the first one kills somebody.

He promotes a playstyle that involves a lack of teamwork unless the entire team is set up around giving Yi that magic alpha strike kill.

He makes you want to pull your hair out in lane because he's so fucking annoying.

He's just stupid. I really hate him. I don't even think he's a particularly good champion, he just pisses you off to play with OR against him.

He's also really goddamn easy to play. Khazix and Katarina are similar but they take some thought and are counterable in ways Yi is not. Yi is typically countered by his own RNG screwing him over.
http://www.liquidlegends.net/forum/lol-general/502075-patch-61-league-of-legends-general-discussion?page=25#498
Mondeezy
Profile Joined August 2011
United States1938 Posts
February 22 2013 00:09 GMT
#2053
On February 22 2013 07:39 Roffles wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 22 2013 07:24 Mondeezy wrote:
On February 22 2013 06:51 sylverfyre wrote:
On February 22 2013 05:15 WhiteDog wrote:
On February 22 2013 04:44 EquilasH wrote:
On February 22 2013 04:29 Scip wrote:
On February 22 2013 03:33 Nobu wrote:
hey guys, I'm not posting too much here but this whole TL team made me think about if TLIH would be possible in LoL. Inhouses in dota2 were really funny despite the skill disparity between players, so I don't think thats an issue. My biggest concern would be region restriction since it could be really hard to get 10 people in a custom game but who knows. Thoughts on that?

We used to have inhouses on EUW few months back, but generally I don't think people think it's worth it. Its main purpose back then was lenghtening your e-peen anyway, and people who lost had the tendency to get mad, which while fun, is not a very stable environment. Usually people just DuoQ now.

Back before the split of EUNE and EUW we used to have the most epic inhouses - but I think that was attributed to people not caring AS much about E-peen (obviously it was still a big thing) and the skill level being in general lower than it is now - except for Devil who just trolled and stomped.

Edit: Now whenever we play inhouses 5 people are trolling, 4 people are tryharding and 1 guy is dc while all 10 people are frustrated - it just doesn't seem worth it.
It would probably be a lot of fun if the better players took lead and everyone was tryharding (which actually seems to be the case in most DotA inhouses with mature people) - and it would be a learning experience for a lot of people.

Well, if there is too much level disparities between player, everything will just end up as a bad experience for everyone. It was most likely "epic" in the beginning of lol because, since the game was young, everybody just played bad.
I'll gladly tryhard with any TLer, but I don't need to get lectured everytime I get my ass stomped by a plat / diamond.

I dunno, I've played a lot of inhouses with and against many 2k Elos from TL and I've had mostly good experiences. Even with the skill disparity, I've laned against many better players than me, and learned a lot while also having fun. As long as all the players have the basic precepts down (which pretty much all of us do), it usually is fine. Especially when both teams are aware of where their good players are and compensate a bit for it.


This. I learned a lot just from playing like five in houses with Durr and Shake. Had a ton of fun but idk, someone would always get butthurt if they got stomped in lane or somebody would troll and annoy the other team members.

Would love to start playing inhouses again, also have a few friends that are interested although they're not very good. LP was fun when I actually got to play it. The only thing that needs to happen is to not join without knowing that you will potentially get wrecked, and not to rage at your teammates. Keep it classy and semi strict and people should be made aware if its gonna be a troll game so they don't get pissed about wasting time.

My two cents at least. Recommended it in LP thread when it was all the hype.

The only time I recall people getting insanely mad was when someone got crushed by stxz' AP Tryn LOL. I remember fuckin JingleHell getting all pissed about it. "HES TROLLING AND HES STILL CRUSHING ME THATS SO STUPID FUCK THIS GAME U GUYS ARE FUCKING RETARDED I HATE U ALL OMFG PLZ DIE".

It's only bad if people make it bad. I've played in countless trollhouses or even serious IHs or a combination of both where it's pretty fun if everyone just tries to make the best of it. There's no point of QQing and crying because a guy who's 800 elo higher than you stomped you in lane. That shit's to be expected. Just ask yourself stuff like "Why did I lose lane. How did he outplay me?" or even ask them what you could have done better. The only time you make it a big deal is if they're willing to help and you're not willing to accept that you're bad.

When people can't take criticism, they usually get pissed, and that usually leads to disagreements and arguments. I'm not sure how EU does this, but a few months ago when NA still played IHs in LP, it was pretty damn good in that higher level players would try playing new shit or different roles or even trying a lot less just to make it a better game with lower skill players. Even then, if that wasn't the case, you'd just get someone else on the other team to balance it out in terms of skill.

Then again, about 90% of the games I played in turned into trollhouses.


Ah JingleHell was the guy. I was on team speak with the rest of our team, one of the higher rated players on our team tried to explain something to him about his build or something and he flipped shit and basically told people he didn't want to hear it etc at least as I recall it.

Psh I can't even get Sir Shake to stream, no way he would carry me in ranked rofl.

Would anyone be interested in running inhouses more frequently? I know TROLLS does some on Fridays apparently, but idk if they'd appreciate tryharding if they're just practicing wonky builds and whatnot.
LoL NA: Mondeezy - TL - Riven <3
sylverfyre
Profile Joined May 2010
United States8298 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-22 00:16:42
February 22 2013 00:15 GMT
#2054
The thing I really don't like about Yi is the invulnerability granted by Alpha Strike. To the point that I've hit him with a binding to try and stop him from going nuts, but he alpha striked anyway.

TROLLS is semi-tryhard - people are trying out new builds and new champs and stuff, but we still attempt to PLAY to the best of our ability (at least, those of us that aren't super gosu I believe are trying)
Seuss
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States10536 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-22 00:17:42
February 22 2013 00:17 GMT
#2055
Yeah, T.R.O.L.L.S. isn't exactly the right place for tryharding. We put effort into our testing, but there's the understanding that we're focused on putting ideas through their paces.

Edit: Semi-tryhard is about right.
"I am not able to carry all this people alone, for they are too heavy for me." -Moses (Numbers 11:14)
Ketara
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States15065 Posts
February 22 2013 00:30 GMT
#2056
We tryhard. We try the wonky builds hard.

What we don't do is rage when games are excrutiatingly one sided, which they often are.
http://www.liquidlegends.net/forum/lol-general/502075-patch-61-league-of-legends-general-discussion?page=25#498
nosliw
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States2716 Posts
February 22 2013 00:35 GMT
#2057
http://imgur.com/ZucZo2R
Apparently the season 3 gold / mastery point?
kainzero
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States5211 Posts
February 22 2013 00:36 GMT
#2058
i don't really mind if it's inhouses or premades, it's just nice to actually play with people because i'm tired of solo queue and sometimes i wanna play but RL friends aren't on. and this community is pretty good, i think.

it's nice to relax and play some games and not get MID OR FEED or whatever, or people jumping on you because you fed when you already know you played like crap.

the TROLLS game i played on friday was one of the most intense games i've ever played, lol.
danana
Profile Joined March 2011
United States321 Posts
February 22 2013 00:49 GMT
#2059
On February 22 2013 09:35 nosliw wrote:
http://imgur.com/ZucZo2R
Apparently the season 3 gold / mastery point?


This is pretty helpful (assuming it's accurate), but how on earth did they assign a gold value to things like reduced summoner cool-downs, improved recall, less time spent dead?
plasmidghost
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Belgium16168 Posts
February 22 2013 00:50 GMT
#2060
So I'm currently 1-3 in placement matches and want to get better before playing more. What do you guys recommend I do?
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