[Patch 3.02: Fake Quinn] General Discussion - Page 10

On February 14 2013 18:24 HazMat wrote:

Just wait till you learn that Ekans = Snake backwards, then your mind will be blown.

On February 14 2013 18:00 BlueSpace wrote:

A four man-push strat with heimer is evidently viable in competitive play, so I'm sure there are circumstances where you can pull off a two man roaming/jungling strat. So what you probably want to look for are having three strong solo laners, that can 1v1. Junglers with a high gank potential, because you will need successful ganks not to fall behind and ideally an enemy jungler that is prone to counterjungling.


The point is that in mid/late game, her ult has such a short cd, that it is impossible to shove lanes. She can basically stand in base and shove out every single lane. It creates tremendous pressure on the team facing her, because they have to deal with the fact, that the lanes are permanently pushing against them, so they need to react which means splitting up in most cases. She is kind of a split pusher in late game, but she doesn't have to expose herself to do so. She just ults... Ez can do the same but to a much smaller degree because his ult isn't on such a ridiculous short cd.

On February 14 2013 18:15 RoKetha wrote:
Third--and this is the part everyone's missing--the damage per tick of the passive effect is no longer doubled if the target is slowed, snared, suppressed, taunted, feared or stunned. You used to do 1.66% per half second while any of those CC effects were on the target.

On February 14 2013 18:25 OutlaW- wrote:

or that nunu upside down is nunu

On February 14 2013 18:26 arb wrote:

and Arbok is Kobra, and Muk is Kum

On February 14 2013 18:33 Purge wrote:


So Im supposed to clear mid lane, then immediately ult the next wave as its coming in then roam? That would make sense, but I already feel like I dont have enough damage on lux as it is (and that early ranks of ult are have long cds so I need cdr before I can do that).

Guess that makes sense, If thats how you are supposed to do it. Man I wish froggen would stream so I could see this type of thing in play (because Ive seen him use ult to push).

On a side note, any opinions on the Tear-Guise build vs Chalice->Codex->Dcap builds on lux? Im prob going back to the Chalice build, but want to ask for second opinions.

On February 14 2013 18:51 BlueSpace wrote:

This is not specifically just about mid lane. Any time during late game when a lane is pushing against you and the enemy team tries to stall to force you to split in order to take care of the lane, you don't need to split. Lux can just ult halfway across the map and take care of the problem.
Trying to push into base against lux is an absolute nightmare. She just instantly clears incoming creepwaves. It's a similar mechanic as KotL in Dota. She can stand in the back and push with minimal fear of repercussions.
Of course this doesn't work early on when she has a significant cd on her ult, but once she hits max cdr and lvl.3 ult, she is at 24 sec, which is basically nothing. She can ult once per wave. So if she really wants to, she can stand between the nexus towers and continuously clear out an incoming wave in one of the lanes. Nobody does that of course, but it underlines the ridiculous pushing power that comes out of her.

On February 14 2013 18:39 mr_tolkien wrote:
Shit I got to do my math all over again.

Zeke is batshit OP btw. Every AD user top/jungle should rush it.

On February 14 2013 19:00 Purge wrote:


Ah, Kk. That makes sense, and is something ill try doing lategame (which Ive been finding hard to play unless Im ahead).

Any thoughts on building her this patch?

On February 14 2013 19:12 Slayer91 wrote:


quick calculation put the cost effectiveness at bang on 2500 for a 2550 cost. Considering most non ad carrys dont care that much about lifesteal why?

if you want easy cdr locket and spirit visage are still probably better. It's good as an aura item and always was but 5% more cdr doesn't mean you need to rewrite the book.

On February 14 2013 18:48 Zizoz wrote:
Upside-down. Not backwards.

On February 14 2013 19:23 mr_tolkien wrote:

For AD casters, the stats are very good for trading, fighting, and clearing jungle/waves.
For anybody, the aura is an incredible increase in damage. It's one of the only aura item which is already cost-effective without taking the aura into account.

On February 14 2013 19:03 bobbob wrote:
Apparently Spirit of the Elder Lizards procs on Singed poison, despite it being a damage over time skill. Lost to some diamond Singed who went for all 3 Spirit Stone items when he got ahead, pretty amusing but still effective.

On February 14 2013 19:03 bobbob wrote:
Apparently Spirit of the Elder Lizards procs on Singed poison, despite it being a damage over time skill. Lost to some diamond Singed who went for all 3 Spirit Stone items when he got ahead, pretty amusing but still effective.

On February 14 2013 19:26 Shikyo wrote:

What does that change? It's still unun upside down.


Having huge amounts of difficulty carrying games with support in comparison to other roles. Maybe I'm just not good enough at support but I find it really difficult to figure out what to do if the AD carry just doesn't understand some things. I'm thinking that I should try to take more farm that he misses and then use that to buy more items, because nowadays supports with more items can make quite a significant difference due to how good support items are.

Also been playing some pokemon showdown, it's so much fun even though I find myself altering my team after like every battle because it feels like it just isn't possible to create a team that doesn't lose to anything in specific...

quick calculation put the cost effectiveness at bang on 2500 for a 2550 cost. Considering most non ad carrys dont care that much about lifesteal why?

Nyjacky been doing Chalice + Morello's for fast 40% cdr. He can usually complete both items by 20~min mark. Watch as many Curse scrims as possible, and watch LCS; you'll bound to see a lot of Nyjacky Lux games, he's been practicing it a lot.
Essentially think about Lux's lategame, similar to splitpushing, except you don't have to be anywhere near the wave of creeps.

On February 14 2013 17:28 Purge wrote:


If Poppy is picked before your top laner, you can pick darius/olaf to try and shut her down in lane. Lane bullies with true damage (which cuts through her passive) crush her in lane because she is so weak early.