[Patch 3.02: Fake Quinn] General Discussion - Page 9

On February 14 2013 17:00 MooMooMugi wrote:

Yeah in <level 30 games, it works wonders

On February 14 2013 17:00 MooMooMugi wrote:

Yeah in <level 30 games, it works wonders

On February 14 2013 17:08 Tal wrote:
I know this is going to sound a bit silly, but what are you meant to do if the other team has a Poppy? She just made it impossible to keep our AD alive, and the rest of their team just peeled for theirs, so after being a bit ahead we couldn't win team fights...

On February 14 2013 17:08 Tal wrote:
I know this is going to sound a bit silly, but what are you meant to do if the other team has a Poppy? She just made it impossible to keep our AD alive, and the rest of their team just peeled for theirs, so after being a bit ahead we couldn't win team fights...

On February 14 2013 16:35 wei2coolman wrote:

It was briefly mentioned in last GD, but her ability to pretty much shove a lane out at a completely safe distance, is really strong. At 40% cdr, her ult is at below 30 second cooldown, allowing her to have complete lane control CONSTANTLY, without risk. Also, considering her ult is at like a ridiculous cd, she pretty much can get 2-3 ults in one teamfight, which eventually making it one of the strongest AP ults in the game.

Also, she offers a lot of team fight control with giant aoe, decent shield, and double bind, very good in botched teamfights/peels, also very strong in kiting. Also towards early lategame, if you land her ulti on a squishy you can pretty much force teams off of towers, and you can do this like every 25 seconds. Also considering how hard it is to stack AP like you could in S2 (due to DC nerf), it's hard for high AP ratio (but medium base damage) to match lux's high base damage + lower ap ratio. Pretty much in s3, CD based/high base damage AP champs are king.

On February 14 2013 17:04 OutlaW- wrote:

I've done it in plat with my friend in season 2, we won more than we lost. It's hard to say how good it would be against serious people, though.

On February 14 2013 17:32 Purge wrote:



I dont completely understand the idea of her ult-shoving being critical. In the early game/roaming midgame, dont you need your ult to roam with? I mean I like playing her but maybe I'm missing something....

On February 14 2013 17:42 Tal wrote:
Thanks for the advice guys - I didn't know QSS effected her ult, does cleanse work too? True damage cutting through her passive is good to know too.

What was frustrating is she didn't do that well in lane, losing her tower and being behind in CS (though she did trade a couple of kills, so had gold). But in fights she just caused us to collapse. I think it would be easier to shut her down in an arranged team, but in solo queue she's a nightmare...I'm glad she isn't played more.

On February 14 2013 18:15 RoKetha wrote:
Since literally everyone in this topic who mentioned Liandry's seems to be reading it incorrectly, I feel I should explain the changes:

First, the base damage is up 1% per half second, lasting until 3 seconds after the last spell damage dealt. It used to be 0.83% per half second, and it would last until 3 seconds after the last spell damage for single hits or 1.5 seconds for AoEs and DoTs.

Second, you no longer get this passive effect halved in duration if your spell is AoE or a DoT.

Third--and this is the part everyone's missing--the damage per tick of the passive effect is no longer doubled if the target is slowed, snared, suppressed, taunted, feared or stunned. You used to do 1.66% per half second while any of those CC effects were on the target.

So overall Teemo shrooms do significantly less damage, because while they do apply the passive 3 more times now, the passive is now applied at the standard strength instead of the doubled one. Shrooms already applied the passive effect for the entire duration of the shroom plus 1.5 seconds after, which is way more than 3 ticks. Non-DoT single-target spells are unchanged (except for the base damage). Any spell that applied a CC effect was significantly nerfed. (Most notably Rumble's ult and Teemo shrooms, which would get double damage Liandry's procs over and over as DoTs.) And the interaction between Rylai's and Liandry's is completely gone. (I'm surprised people are assuming it's there when Riot explicitly says that they made the change because Liandry's was forcing you to build a certain way.)

On February 14 2013 17:56 Isken wrote:
yesterday I realized that nasus = susan backwards
I haven't slept since then

On February 14 2013 18:24 HazMat wrote:

Just wait till you learn that Ekans = Snake backwards, then your mind will be blown.

On February 14 2013 18:13 Lmui wrote:
Mostly because I started playing AP Kog but I think that the rylai's + liandry's interaction with the latest patch will push him back into competitive play. Since tear is more accessible now, the massive mana costs don't hurt quite as much (personal experience anyways). He's still weaker than most standard AP's in straight up fights but 5-7% health damage depending on MR (if you grab sorcs+liandry's+masteries+runes, you'll deal more than 5% damage to people up to ~150 MR) and the pretty hefty base damage means that if you get hit, it's going to hurt. You'll be able to chunk down both tanks and squishies pretty readily in an extended siege.