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sylverfyre
Profile Joined May 2010
United States8298 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-28 15:56:46
February 07 2013 16:36 GMT
#1
LCS Fantasy League


The LCS is here! And how best to enjoy a season of teams going up against each other, week after week? Creating a fantasy league!

Leaguepedia has put together a fantasy league app over at http://www.leaguepediafantasy.com/ which has all 16 teams competing in the NA and EU LCS series. Here's how to join the fantasy league, and how to join the TL.net group and test your mettle as a fan, as a theorycrafter and as an analyst!

>>> Register Here <<<



How to set up your team and join the TL group
  • Register with the link above.
  • On the page Join or Create a league, search for ]i]Teamliquid.net or use This Link. The password for joining the TL group is part=51
  • Go to the Fantasy Team Lineup page and choose your team. When you finish selecting your team, make sure you save your lineup.
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How to Play
  • You pick one player for each of the standard team positions. You have a salary cap of $100.
  • You earn points based on your players KDA and CS.
  • Every week, you can change your lineup, and are limited to the $100 salary cap. Player values are based on recent LCS performances. (Before a team has played games in the LCS, their values are based on Ranked 5s play performances, so numbers may be a little weird.)
  • Scores start accumulating beginning week 3. At this point, player value will no longer be based on ranked 5 play, as all teams will have played some games in the LCS.
  • Further information for how scoring is calculated can be found on the Fantasy Scoring Formula page.


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  • From here, you can look at what the rest of us have chosen for our teams.


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DragoonTT
Profile Joined April 2012
3398 Posts
February 07 2013 16:38 GMT
#2
You have to join the League first, then create your team in most cases. The page handles teams individually for Leagues you join.
sylverfyre
Profile Joined May 2010
United States8298 Posts
February 07 2013 16:39 GMT
#3
Ah, ok. I'll reorder that.
Ghost-z
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1291 Posts
February 07 2013 16:54 GMT
#4
This looks great!
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gtrsrs
Profile Joined June 2010
United States9109 Posts
February 07 2013 17:04 GMT
#5
got doublelift, elementz, zionspartan (was a fucking STEAL this week), shiphtur, and snoopeh (also super underpriced gg)

whoever wins, i win
gg week 1
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sylverfyre
Profile Joined May 2010
United States8298 Posts
February 07 2013 17:13 GMT
#6
I had a hard time deciding between Elementz and Nrated too. I noticed snoopeh's price was pretty reasonable also, but I got worried because they're up against Gam5bit match 1, and I could definitely see Diamond walking all over Snoopeh if things go wrong.
HazMat
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States17077 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-07 17:17:26
February 07 2013 17:16 GMT
#7
This is really cool. I always felt left out when my friends would talk about their Fantasy Football stats. It sounded fun but I don't follow football. Thank god for my fellow nerds!
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Redox
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany24794 Posts
February 07 2013 17:25 GMT
#8
Kinda sad that this weak doesnt count. I think I found a pretty good roster.
Off-season = best season
Zess
Profile Joined July 2012
Adun Toridas!9144 Posts
February 07 2013 17:33 GMT
#9
http://www.leaguepediafantasy.com/league-home/?lid=1118

That's the link you want for viewing the league
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onlywonderboy
Profile Joined August 2012
United States23745 Posts
February 07 2013 17:34 GMT
#10
Yeah, but it's apparent some of these guys are priced far too low. This way people can't get out to an early lead getting someone who is a beast for cheap when they should be worth more.
RIP Ryan Davis / TL or Die / @onlywonderboy
Redox
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany24794 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-07 17:37:39
February 07 2013 17:35 GMT
#11
On February 08 2013 01:38 DragoonTT wrote:
You have to join the League first, then create your team in most cases. The page handles teams individually for Leagues you join.

I did it the other way around, created a team first, then joined the TL league.
In the fantasy lineup tab (http://www.leaguepediafantasy.com/lineup/) it says that my team belongs to the teamliquid.net league. But when I click on my name in the TL league (http://www.leaguepediafantasy.com/roster/?lid=1118&oid=7059), my roster is empty. I cant seem to add anything there, cant delete my roster either. What can I do now?
Off-season = best season
Zess
Profile Joined July 2012
Adun Toridas!9144 Posts
February 07 2013 18:03 GMT
#12
Clicking your name in the TL League to view the roster doesn't do anything. They seem to have not implemented that functionality yet. The comments for me are also "pppft Oddone" even though my roster doesn't have Oddone.

In 2 weeks when this actually goes live we can see if they make it more useable. Micromanaging your team right now doesn't even matter because you don't get points and also the salaries will change.
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Redox
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany24794 Posts
February 07 2013 18:09 GMT
#13
On February 08 2013 03:03 xes wrote:
Clicking your name in the TL League to view the roster doesn't do anything. They seem to have not implemented that functionality yet. The comments for me are also "pppft Oddone" even though my roster doesn't have Oddone.

In 2 weeks when this actually goes live we can see if they make it more useable. Micromanaging your team right now doesn't even matter because you don't get points and also the salaries will change.

Alright. I was just confused because I can see other peoples roster by clicking their name but not my own.
Off-season = best season
AsmodeusXI
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States15536 Posts
February 07 2013 18:13 GMT
#14
sosososososososososososo excite. This just increases the monumental amount of LCS hype coursing through my veins.
WriterTL > RL. BNet: Asmodeus#1187 - LoL: DJForeclosure - Steam: asmodeusxi | www.n3rddimension.com
JBright
Profile Joined September 2010
Vancouver14381 Posts
February 07 2013 18:20 GMT
#15
http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?topic_id=387085

I think it would be hilarious if this happened with fantasy LCS, especially if people start requesting bans based on team loyalty.
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LaNague
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Germany9118 Posts
February 07 2013 18:22 GMT
#16
when the value of my players go up, do i have to change my team or can i keep them?

For example i bought alex ich for 22, so when he eventually goes up to 30 cause he is a beast, will i have to swap?
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
February 07 2013 18:24 GMT
#17
On February 08 2013 03:22 LaNague wrote:
when the value of my players go up, do i have to change my team or can i keep them?

For example i bought alex ich for 22, so when he eventually goes up to 30 cause he is a beast, will i have to swap?

Alex Ich overrated in this imo. Look at his competition. EU mids are the best in the world, he has to compete against Froggen, xPeke, etc etc.
liftlift > tsm
sylverfyre
Profile Joined May 2010
United States8298 Posts
February 07 2013 18:34 GMT
#18
On February 08 2013 03:24 wei2coolman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 08 2013 03:22 LaNague wrote:
when the value of my players go up, do i have to change my team or can i keep them?

For example i bought alex ich for 22, so when he eventually goes up to 30 cause he is a beast, will i have to swap?

Alex Ich overrated in this imo. Look at his competition. EU mids are the best in the world, he has to compete against Froggen, xPeke, etc etc.

I dunno, considering the scoring is based on CS (alex ich always posts great numbers here) and KDA (again) I think Alex is pretty solid.

Sadly, there's no long-term reward for identifying under-priced players past the current week - you always have to keep your roster at the $100 mark.
GhandiEAGLE
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States20754 Posts
February 07 2013 18:38 GMT
#19
I have Alex Ich, Dyrus, nRated, Brokenshard, and Doublelift (free points IMO). I was debating Alex Ich and Ecco (because ecco is gonna be huge, I already know) but I decided to go with the safe pick
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DragoonTT
Profile Joined April 2012
3398 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-07 18:44:47
February 07 2013 18:40 GMT
#20
Eh, nevermind, understood that in the wrong way, lockdown only for pay-to-play leagues.

Resetting the team each week, that's interesting (and annoying). Hopefully you keep additional cash if you chose well...on the other hand, this way you can't "snowball" a good week 1 performance the way it sometimes happens with FPL.
LaNague
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Germany9118 Posts
February 07 2013 18:41 GMT
#21
On February 08 2013 03:34 sylverfyre wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 08 2013 03:24 wei2coolman wrote:
On February 08 2013 03:22 LaNague wrote:
when the value of my players go up, do i have to change my team or can i keep them?

For example i bought alex ich for 22, so when he eventually goes up to 30 cause he is a beast, will i have to swap?

Alex Ich overrated in this imo. Look at his competition. EU mids are the best in the world, he has to compete against Froggen, xPeke, etc etc.

I dunno, considering the scoring is based on CS (alex ich always posts great numbers here) and KDA (again) I think Alex is pretty solid.

Sadly, there's no long-term reward for identifying under-priced players past the current week - you always have to keep your roster at the $100 mark.


thats a shame, so after a few weeks you basically bet on who is winning the next game instead of identifying good players before they perfrom in the LCS.
Djagulingu
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Germany3605 Posts
February 07 2013 18:42 GMT
#22
Well, I am seeing that nobody has posted a team whatsoever. So I'll post mine first.

ADC - Doublelift (28$): Seeing that KDA and CS are the scoring factors, I decided that money shouldn't be a deciding factor, it's just that I have to select the biggest name out of the available ones. Doublelift and DontMashMe clearly stand out. Out of these two 28$ players, I took Doublelift over DontMashMe because DontMashMe's team has a good few sub-20$ players that can bring him down.

Mid - Shiphtur (17$): His play in the qualifiers was pretty impressive and now I see him at 17$. I literally jumped on that offer because of a few factors:
- His champ pool is wide (in fact, he drew quite a number of Ziggs bans in the qualifiers)
- He's too cost efficient
- Even if he fails, DontMashMe can carry the team (this is also one of the reasons why I picked Doublelift over DontMashMe)

Top - HotshotGG (21$): Hotshot Motherfucking Jaw Dropping Pussy Ripping GG at 21$. We all know what kind of a monster he is when he decides to take it serious. Also, even if he fails, he can get carried by Doublelift, Aphromoo, L1NK (all of which are 28$ players) and blah blah blah.

Jungle - NintendudeX (17$): Because I need to pay for my CLG players, I need to cut from some other roles, who can't get much cs, namely jungle and support. I put NintendudeX here because:
- He's the best jungler among sub-20$ players
- He gets much more CS than other junglers.
- DontMashMe is OP.

Support - Xpecial (17$): Up to now, I remained with 17$ for support. Xpecial and Elementz stood out for the price range and stuff. So I took Xpecial.
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sylverfyre
Profile Joined May 2010
United States8298 Posts
February 07 2013 18:43 GMT
#23
On February 08 2013 02:33 xes wrote:
http://www.leaguepediafantasy.com/league-home/?lid=1118

That's the link you want for viewing the league

Thanks, sorry about that.
Redox
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany24794 Posts
February 07 2013 18:46 GMT
#24
Well this would be mine at the moment.

AD Carry: YellOwStaR $17
Support: nRated $15
Top: Wickd $22
Mid: xPeke $21
Jungle: DiamondProx $24

But yeah I realize the Fnatic players are way too cheap at the moment.
Off-season = best season
AsmodeusXI
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States15536 Posts
February 07 2013 18:53 GMT
#25
ADC: Doublelift
Support: nRated
Top: Voyboy
Mid: NyJacky
Jungle: Svenskeren

2xLift because. Voyboy has been playing amazingly recently. nRated and nyjacky are both very solid, and I'm a Wolves fanboi so I'll keep Svenskeren until I can switch nyjacky out for my boy Bjergsen.
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sylverfyre
Profile Joined May 2010
United States8298 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-07 19:02:56
February 07 2013 18:59 GMT
#26
Some things I'd love to see (and I'm going to email them as such) Ordered by which I think is most important.

- Reward people for finding under-rated talent and including it on their teams.
(For reference, The TL BW & SC2 Fantasy Pro League lets you trade players but it costs 1 point/dollar to do so - so if I picked nRated this week and he rose to $20, next week I could trade him away for a $19 player). Or, barring that, at least let us keep the same team from one week to the next if the players perform well and rise in value, and only enforce the $100 limit if people are changing their lineups. Being FORCED to change your lineup because they performed well sucks.

- Give players points for winning the game (which is often as much of an indicator of good play as anything else.) Possibly also subtract some points for losing the game.

- Give the jungler credit somehow for dragons / barons. (Yes, I realize these are team efforts and the jungler isn't even always involved, but it seems the right place to put points from this.
DragoonTT
Profile Joined April 2012
3398 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-07 19:12:52
February 07 2013 19:03 GMT
#27
This week is incredible hard to pick for, due to slightly tilted values and all big name teams having at least one, if not two, nearly unpredictable matches. Was playing around and changing my lineup quite a lot, decided on this for the first week:

AD Carry - CLG.Doublelift ($ 28): He's very costly, but CLG is completely reliant on his performances. They will get him CS and Kills at any cost, promising good scores. He's also prone to get multi-kills, further increasing his potential. Three matches this week - TSM and Curse might be close (I think Curse should win against CLG atm), but GGU could be a rout. Also, most other ADs look overpriced in comparison to expectations - only Yellowstar (at 17) and CandyPanda (at 15) look like steals, and Genja (at 20) seems well-priced. All three of them have very close matches upcoming, so I decided to keep DLift (even though I personally dislike him - now I have to cheer for CLG T_T)

Support - fnatic.nRated ($ 16): It was either him or Elementz this week. Both have several matches with decent winning expectations. nRated seems a more risky pick, as he often plays initiating champions (Leona!) and hence dies, potentially lowering his score. However, Elementz had his own dry spells, and I'm not too confident in Curse's botlane, so nRated it is.

Top - fnatic.sOAZ ($ 17): Looks underpriced at $ 17, but didn't look too hot recently. I trust in his potential - if fnatic plays well, sOAZ can easily rack up silly amounts of kills. With the Bo1 format, we might even see something totally new - an underplayed champion, coming to decimate the top lane and dominate the game. I'd gladly have picked Voyboy (he's going to carry if Curse wins, mark my words) or the less consistent Wickd/Darien, but alas, Doublelift was damn costly and I wanted a strong mid laner.

Mid - GG.Alex Ich ($ 22): One of the most consistent mid lane players, and - judging from IEM Katowice - currently in good form. Likes Ryze (will score plenty of kills/carry lategame) and assassin-type champs (will score tons of kills), but may suffer in the CS department. However, GG should do well this week (not sure about EG - no tournament presence in what, two months?), so Alex it is. Mid had some incredible value (Nyjacky) and potential (Shiphtur, Exterminare) picks though, so I might come to regret this.

Jungler - CHW.Svenskeren ($ 18): Not much cash to splash left, and Svenskeren seems good value. Wanted to go for Nintendude (and Elementz over nRated) first, but Nintendude's main champ (Olaf) just got nerfed and GGU has a terrible first week with matches against CLG and Curse. Same reasoning also counts for GIANTS.Morden, who will face GG and fnatic. CHW's fixtures don't look much easier (SK, EG), but I'd give them more of a chance. The only jungler I'd expect to score more than average is actually Saintvicious - he farms a lot, and he gets kills lategame, so he might be a value pick; one that I sadly cannot afford.
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31494 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-07 19:10:36
February 07 2013 19:07 GMT
#28
My 5: (I don't feel like doing analysis of my pics in detail)
Elementz ('cause he was cheap and the rest of team was expensive. Though from what everyone else is doing i should have taken nRated? Screw it; if Elementz does well and nRated doesn't then at least I can differentiate myself from everyone else on TL.)
Yellowstar
DiamondProx - (Easily best jungler I can think of.)
Dyrus (he is too qt)
Alex Ich - (He's a new daddy! Representing gaming fathers everywhere. Plus he plays Eve. Plus he kicks fucking ass.)
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JonGalt
Profile Joined February 2013
Pootie too good!4331 Posts
February 07 2013 19:09 GMT
#29
Well the system has it flaws, that's for sure, but even so it sounds like it is gonna be fun.

ADC: YellowPete
Support: nRated
Jungle: TheOddOne
Mid: Alex Ich
Top: Kev1n

I really tried to make sure that everyone was on a different team. I don't like having two people on the same team get crushed and put up pitiful numbers. On the other hand if they win, both probably do fantastic. Oh well. Not a risk I like taking.

So do the first two weeks of scoring even count? Or do we for real start counting in week one?
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sylverfyre
Profile Joined May 2010
United States8298 Posts
February 07 2013 19:18 GMT
#30
First two weeks of scoring apparently don't count as far as the site, but they TOTALLY count for your TL E-Peen.
Ghost-z
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1291 Posts
February 07 2013 19:22 GMT
#31
ADC: Yellowpete
Support: nRated
Top: Voyboy
Mid: mandatorycloud
Junlge: Brokenshard

$99
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SgtSquiglz
Profile Joined December 2010
United States668 Posts
February 07 2013 19:23 GMT
#32
How come when I click on my name in the league home, I don't see my lineup, but when I go to edit the lineup its there? Anybody know?
Take anything I say with a grain of salt.....I suck at this game. Also, Go Blue!
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
February 07 2013 19:26 GMT
#33
It is important to recognize the subtle distinction between "players that are good" and "players that will earn you points".

Also of note: scores are normalized by game length. Obviously this is because long games typically involve more kills and more CS, but teams that play longer games with long periods of inactivity where kills aren't happening (looking at you EG) have the potential to earn less points than teams that win quickly with similar KDAs
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WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31494 Posts
February 07 2013 19:33 GMT
#34
On February 08 2013 04:26 TheYango wrote:
It is important to recognize the subtle distinction between "players that are good" and "players that will earn you points".

Also of note: scores are normalized by game length. Obviously this is because long games typically involve more kills and more CS, but teams that play longer games with long periods of inactivity where kills aren't happening (looking at you EG) have the potential to earn less points than teams that win quickly with similar KDAs

This, but I'm too lazy to do any deep analysis of highest KDAs and whatnot.
Also probably important to know which team each player is going up against.
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JonGalt
Profile Joined February 2013
Pootie too good!4331 Posts
February 07 2013 19:34 GMT
#35
On February 08 2013 04:18 sylverfyre wrote:
First two weeks of scoring apparently don't count as far as the site, but they TOTALLY count for your TL E-Peen.


I wasn't aware we were competing for anything BUT TL E-Peen. But thanks.
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jtbem
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Canada1404 Posts
February 07 2013 19:38 GMT
#36
doublelift
xspecial
zionspartan
nyjacky
saintvicious
98$
aka Sowelulol
jpak
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States5045 Posts
February 07 2013 19:54 GMT
#37
doublelift
nrated
megazero (I think Team MRN is going to depend on him to do well)
nyjacky
saintvicious
CJ Entusman #50! #1 클템 fan TL!
GhandiEAGLE
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States20754 Posts
February 07 2013 19:54 GMT
#38
Top: Dyrus I have enough extra $ that I could get Wickd or Darien or Voyboy top lane, but I would not be top 3 Dyrus Fanboi TL if I went for anything else

Mid: Alex Ich
Mark my words, ecco is going to be a beast (#1 Dolphin NA) but he doesn't have matches this week so I went for a very well-priced assassin user who has very high cs rates

Adc: Doublelift Pretty much the easiest choice in the entire league. NM to be said here :/

Support: nRated or Elementz, but I chose nRated because I think Fnatic will be in more winning positions than curse.

Jungle: BrokenShard because I have no more moniez and junglers are all expensive
Oh, my achin' hands, from rakin' in grands, and breakin' in mic stands
Zess
Profile Joined July 2012
Adun Toridas!9144 Posts
February 07 2013 20:04 GMT
#39
nRated - this guy probably will be way too expensive to field after actual LCS results come out instead of soloq but for now he is a steal

Alex Ich - Froggen cost too much $$$, but also Alex likes to play assassins (Kha, Eve) and roams for kills but always manages to get beast amounts of farm for the amount of pressure he exerts

Voy Boy - another "superstar" player who gets a lot of space and farm priority. Also plays Big Play champions to rack up thos league points

Cop - not a lot of money left at this point, he has pretty solid play

Svenskeren - DARK HORSE WOLVES GONNA WIN IT BIG
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Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
February 07 2013 20:10 GMT
#40
After much careful deliberation, thinking about cost...
I just went fnatic + diamondprox gg.
Glorious SEA doto
Zhiroo
Profile Joined February 2011
Kosovo2724 Posts
February 07 2013 20:11 GMT
#41
Hmm my team is Genja, nRated, xPeke, TOO and Voyboy :D
LoL EuW: Zhiroo - By starting this squabble you've proven nothing but how vast your stupidity is.
DonKey_
Profile Joined May 2010
Liechtenstein1356 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-07 20:41:25
February 07 2013 20:33 GMT
#42
I picked up:
Cop - curse does a good job feeding him.
Xpecial - still best supp NA imo.
Kiwikid- guy is on a tear for dig.
Alex Ich- $22 seemed to good to pass up.
Nintendudex- was cheap and is a gamble way I see it. If he gets the champs he is comfortable with he will do well.

Edit- swapped MegaZero for Kiwikid
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monx
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada1400 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-07 20:40:19
February 07 2013 20:35 GMT
#43
doublelift, nrated, alex ich, dyrus, brokenshard

so if my team has a value of over 100 after one week, i need to make a roster change...thats kinda lame. It doesnt promote good management if thats true.
@ggmonx
HazMat
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States17077 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-07 20:36:50
February 07 2013 20:36 GMT
#44
ADC: Zuna
Support: Xpecial (TSM TSM TSM)
Top: Voyboy
Mid: Nyjacky
Jungle: SaintVicious



CURSE OR DIE BABY. NORTH AMERICAN FTW. I DON'T CARE IF THIS IS A VERY INEFFECTIVE WAY AT GETTING POINTS LOL.
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LilCiggy
Profile Joined August 2012
64 Posts
February 07 2013 20:43 GMT
#45
I have

ADC: Doublelift
Support: Deficio
Top: Spontexx
Mid: Nyjacky
Jungle: NintendudeX
sylverfyre
Profile Joined May 2010
United States8298 Posts
February 07 2013 20:46 GMT
#46
On February 08 2013 05:36 HazMat wrote:
ADC: Zuna
Support: Xpecial (TSM TSM TSM)
Top: Voyboy
Mid: Nyjacky
Jungle: SaintVicious



CURSE OR DIE BABY. NORTH AMERICAN FTW. I DON'T CARE IF THIS IS A VERY INEFFECTIVE WAY AT GETTING POINTS LOL.

Where's Cop on your team? ;o;

Nyjacky definitely a value pick at 17 pts though.
HazMat
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States17077 Posts
February 07 2013 20:56 GMT
#47
On February 08 2013 05:46 sylverfyre wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 08 2013 05:36 HazMat wrote:
ADC: Zuna
Support: Xpecial (TSM TSM TSM)
Top: Voyboy
Mid: Nyjacky
Jungle: SaintVicious



CURSE OR DIE BABY. NORTH AMERICAN FTW. I DON'T CARE IF THIS IS A VERY INEFFECTIVE WAY AT GETTING POINTS LOL.

Where's Cop on your team? ;o;

Nyjacky definitely a value pick at 17 pts though.

Zuna gets special spot because he's a beast. He cost a lot though.
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TheLink
Profile Joined January 2011
Australia2725 Posts
February 07 2013 21:12 GMT
#48
Keep getting Error Database Connection when I try to verify my account, fantasy league site crashed?
Only the weak link is strong enough to break the chain.
sylverfyre
Profile Joined May 2010
United States8298 Posts
February 07 2013 21:18 GMT
#49
Looks like it crashed to me.
Ghost-z
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1291 Posts
February 07 2013 21:47 GMT
#50
Is there any point to placing a player on your team who has a bye week or no match scheduled?
Fairy Tales when you're a child begin with "Once upon a time" and when you're an adult begin, "If elected I promise..."
Zergneedsfood
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States10671 Posts
February 07 2013 22:01 GMT
#51
TSM! TSM!
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CROrens
Profile Joined May 2007
Croatia1005 Posts
February 07 2013 22:07 GMT
#52
Hey guys, ive been out of the loop for some time and im wondering how the hell can curse suck with this lineup? Or are they actually good now?
There is no problem that cannot be solved by the use of high explosives. - Anonymous ......||......Hyuk fan! \o/
Lmui
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada6213 Posts
February 07 2013 22:10 GMT
#53
I had

ADC: Doublelift
Mid: Nyjacky
Top: Soaz
Jungle: Diamondprox
Support: nRated
cascades
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Singapore6122 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-07 22:38:18
February 07 2013 22:22 GMT
#54
On February 08 2013 04:26 TheYango wrote:
It is important to recognize the subtle distinction between "players that are good" and "players that will earn you points".

Also of note: scores are normalized by game length. Obviously this is because long games typically involve more kills and more CS, but teams that play longer games with long periods of inactivity where kills aren't happening (looking at you EG) have the potential to earn less points than teams that win quickly with similar KDAs


That's not entirely correct. The entire system converges, value for money disappears as LCS results come in. Rather, its teams deviance above historical norm that wins you points.
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TheLink
Profile Joined January 2011
Australia2725 Posts
February 07 2013 22:53 GMT
#55
AD: Doublelift - he might not be worth his price but he gets like 90% of CLG's kills and CS so... scoring system.
Mid: Nyjacky - crazy cheap for prob the best mid. :S
Top: sOAz - very little skill difference top so good spot to get a cheap one. sOAz gets a high % of his teams kills too.
Jungle: Crumbzz - broke my heart not picking Snoopeh but his support style doesn't fit scoring system.
Support: Elementz - money where my mouth is, he's way better than all the crap he gets.
Only the weak link is strong enough to break the chain.
daemir
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland8662 Posts
February 07 2013 23:32 GMT
#56
AD: Genja
Mid: Alex Ich
Top: ZionSpartan
Jungle: CyanideFi
Support: Krepo


scumbag Krepo will killsteal enough to make it work, I have faith!
nxk
Profile Joined October 2011
United Kingdom2291 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-07 23:41:16
February 07 2013 23:38 GMT
#57
AD: Genja
Support: Edward (GosuPepper)
Top: Soaz
Mid: Alex Ich
Jungle: Saintvicious

Can't believe Soaz and GG are so cheap!
ExoFun
Profile Joined August 2010
Netherlands2041 Posts
February 08 2013 00:29 GMT
#58
AD: nono
Support: Edward (GosuPepper)
Top: Soaz
Mid: Alex Ich
Jungle: DaimondProx
Lmui
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada6213 Posts
February 08 2013 00:31 GMT
#59
I wish points actually counted at this point, anyone with doublelift got their money's worth.
sylverfyre
Profile Joined May 2010
United States8298 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-08 00:36:44
February 08 2013 00:36 GMT
#60
On February 08 2013 09:31 Lmui wrote:
I wish points actually counted at this point, anyone with doublelift got their money's worth.

DontMashMe earned more points in CLG v GGU!
LaNague
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Germany9118 Posts
February 08 2013 03:30 GMT
#61
meh, i thought this would work differently, i probably wont update my lineup every week as thats just betting on results rather than finding good players.
ZERG_RUSSIAN
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
10417 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-08 09:16:51
February 08 2013 05:39 GMT
#62
Doublelift Dyrus xpeke nrated brokenshard YALL GON LOS3

oh shit we had to repick this week:

Cop nRated Dyrus xPeke Crumbzz
I'm on GOLD CHAIN
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35150 Posts
February 08 2013 06:33 GMT
#63
I had picked Wickd, Saint, Regi(go big or go home), YellowPete, and Elementz.
TheKnight
Profile Joined June 2010
Romania77 Posts
February 08 2013 13:54 GMT
#64
ok did all the joining and stuff, but do any of you know when the stats for it get updated? also do i really have to change my lineup every week if the values of the players i have change? sorry if this has been asked before but i haven't seen it.
orly?
jaybrundage
Profile Joined December 2009
United States3921 Posts
February 08 2013 15:07 GMT
#65
Genja Nrated VoyBoy Scarra SV

I have no idea what Im doing
The more you sweat in training, the less you bleed in battle.
onlywonderboy
Profile Joined August 2012
United States23745 Posts
February 08 2013 15:09 GMT
#66
On February 08 2013 22:54 TheKnight wrote:
ok did all the joining and stuff, but do any of you know when the stats for it get updated? also do i really have to change my lineup every week if the values of the players i have change? sorry if this has been asked before but i haven't seen it.

Yeah, it changes every week. Kind of lame, you're more predicting who is going to do well on a weekly basis instead of who is going to have a good season overall, but it's what we got.
RIP Ryan Davis / TL or Die / @onlywonderboy
Sponkz
Profile Joined May 2011
Denmark4564 Posts
February 08 2013 16:27 GMT
#67
AD: Yellowpete¨
Support: nRated (so cheap, so gud)
Top: sOAZ (cheap aswell)
Mid: Alex Ich
Jungle: Snoopeh

2 cheap fnatic players, i regret taking yellowpete but i had no idea who else to take, since i didn't want Doublelift. Alex ich as mid, he always gets good KDA's. Snoopeh jungler seems abit wtf, but i couldn't afford Diamondprox
hi
jaybrundage
Profile Joined December 2009
United States3921 Posts
February 08 2013 16:53 GMT
#68
Why doesnt no one like scarra : (
The more you sweat in training, the less you bleed in battle.
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35150 Posts
February 08 2013 16:57 GMT
#69
On February 09 2013 01:53 jaybrundage wrote:
Why doesnt no one like scarra : (

I never got the impression of Scarra having a killing edge on competitive play. As a result, a league based largely on KDA won't favor that.
Redox
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany24794 Posts
February 08 2013 17:00 GMT
#70
On February 09 2013 01:27 Sponkz wrote:
AD: Yellowpete¨
Support: nRated (so cheap, so gud)
Top: sOAZ (cheap aswell)
Mid: Alex Ich
Jungle: Snoopeh

2 cheap fnatic players, i regret taking yellowpete but i had no idea who else to take, since i didn't want Doublelift. Alex ich as mid, he always gets good KDA's. Snoopeh jungler seems abit wtf, but i couldn't afford Diamondprox

Snoopeh is terribly out of shape atm. Unfortunately this and other knowledge wont get me anything as we dont get points yet.
Off-season = best season
AsmodeusXI
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States15536 Posts
February 08 2013 17:07 GMT
#71
On February 09 2013 01:53 jaybrundage wrote:
Why doesnt no one like scarra : (


He's really, REALLY aggressive, to the point where he seems to get frequently punished for it in pro play.
WriterTL > RL. BNet: Asmodeus#1187 - LoL: DJForeclosure - Steam: asmodeusxi | www.n3rddimension.com
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
February 08 2013 17:12 GMT
#72
On February 09 2013 02:00 Redox wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 09 2013 01:27 Sponkz wrote:
AD: Yellowpete¨
Support: nRated (so cheap, so gud)
Top: sOAZ (cheap aswell)
Mid: Alex Ich
Jungle: Snoopeh

2 cheap fnatic players, i regret taking yellowpete but i had no idea who else to take, since i didn't want Doublelift. Alex ich as mid, he always gets good KDA's. Snoopeh jungler seems abit wtf, but i couldn't afford Diamondprox

Snoopeh is terribly out of shape atm. Unfortunately this and other knowledge wont get me anything as we dont get points yet.

Snoopeh's style/position on the team also means he can have comparatively low farm/high deaths compared to other junglers. Not necessarily indicative of his play, but it means he will still be a relatively low point-earner even when he's doing well.

This is exacerbated by how EG tends to play long, drawn out games, and point gains are normalized by game length. For many players, they're earning points based on CS to even out the normalization factor, but because Snoopeh doesn't get that much farm, the normalization factor does a lot to reduce his points earned in long games.
Moderator
daemir
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland8662 Posts
February 08 2013 17:32 GMT
#73
On February 09 2013 01:53 jaybrundage wrote:
Why doesnt no one like scarra : (


Scarra is a cuddly rabbit, but since points are given on kda, I don't think he will fare well in this. He usually ranks high in the deaths department.
Redox
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany24794 Posts
February 08 2013 17:54 GMT
#74
On February 09 2013 02:12 TheYango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 09 2013 02:00 Redox wrote:
On February 09 2013 01:27 Sponkz wrote:
AD: Yellowpete¨
Support: nRated (so cheap, so gud)
Top: sOAZ (cheap aswell)
Mid: Alex Ich
Jungle: Snoopeh

2 cheap fnatic players, i regret taking yellowpete but i had no idea who else to take, since i didn't want Doublelift. Alex ich as mid, he always gets good KDA's. Snoopeh jungler seems abit wtf, but i couldn't afford Diamondprox

Snoopeh is terribly out of shape atm. Unfortunately this and other knowledge wont get me anything as we dont get points yet.

Snoopeh's style/position on the team also means he can have comparatively low farm/high deaths compared to other junglers. Not necessarily indicative of his play, but it means he will still be a relatively low point-earner even when he's doing well.

This is exacerbated by how EG tends to play long, drawn out games, and point gains are normalized by game length. For many players, they're earning points based on CS to even out the normalization factor, but because Snoopeh doesn't get that much farm, the normalization factor does a lot to reduce his points earned in long games.

Indeed, which is why I chose a jungler that usually gets high farm priority with Diamondprox. SV would have been my 2nd choice.
Unfortunately all these things will already be factored into the price we pay once the fantasy league starts. From then on you will bet only on who will do better than during his last games.
Off-season = best season
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
February 08 2013 21:13 GMT
#75
Alright. So a couple AD's are way too expensive right now (looking at you Doublelift, actually all of CLG NA's roster is too expensive at the moment). So...

AD Carry: YellOwStaR
Support: Edward (GoSu Pepper)
Top: sOAZ
Mid: Alex Ich
Jungle: DiamondProx

Euro team gogo.
Freeeeeeedom
Mondeezy
Profile Joined August 2011
United States1938 Posts
February 08 2013 22:35 GMT
#76
On February 09 2013 00:07 jaybrundage wrote:
Genja Nrated VoyBoy Scarra SV

I have no idea what Im doing


We have the exact same lineup except I have Alex Ich instead of Scarra.

Looking good so far :D
LoL NA: Mondeezy - TL - Riven <3
RouaF
Profile Joined October 2010
France4120 Posts
February 09 2013 00:00 GMT
#77
On February 09 2013 06:13 cLutZ wrote:
Alright. So a couple AD's are way too expensive right now (looking at you Doublelift, actually all of CLG NA's roster is too expensive at the moment). So...

AD Carry: YellOwStaR
Support: Edward (GoSu Pepper)
Top: sOAZ
Mid: Alex Ich
Jungle: DiamondProx

Euro team gogo.


I have exactly the same line-up l0l
jaybrundage
Profile Joined December 2009
United States3921 Posts
February 09 2013 00:29 GMT
#78
In the end its all about dat voyboy
The more you sweat in training, the less you bleed in battle.
jaybrundage
Profile Joined December 2009
United States3921 Posts
February 09 2013 00:29 GMT
#79
On February 09 2013 07:35 Mondeezy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 09 2013 00:07 jaybrundage wrote:
Genja Nrated VoyBoy Scarra SV

I have no idea what Im doing


We have the exact same lineup except I have Alex Ich instead of Scarra.

Looking good so far :D

wait really alex ich same price eh
done
The more you sweat in training, the less you bleed in battle.
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
February 09 2013 01:26 GMT
#80
On February 09 2013 09:00 RouaF wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 09 2013 06:13 cLutZ wrote:
Alright. So a couple AD's are way too expensive right now (looking at you Doublelift, actually all of CLG NA's roster is too expensive at the moment). So...

AD Carry: YellOwStaR
Support: Edward (GoSu Pepper)
Top: sOAZ
Mid: Alex Ich
Jungle: DiamondProx

Euro team gogo.


I have exactly the same line-up l0l


Soaz and Yellowstar are such value buys, IMO. And So long as Gosu pepper keeps his KS with Sona style, ill be good.
Freeeeeeedom
57 Corvette
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada5941 Posts
February 09 2013 03:20 GMT
#81
Genja
Edward
Shushei
Voyboy
Nintendudex

Well, lets see how this goes
Survival is winning, everything else is bullshit.
Mondeezy
Profile Joined August 2011
United States1938 Posts
February 09 2013 20:17 GMT
#82
Welp there go my fantasy points lol.
LoL NA: Mondeezy - TL - Riven <3
ZERG_RUSSIAN
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
10417 Posts
February 09 2013 20:19 GMT
#83
On February 09 2013 02:00 Redox wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 09 2013 01:27 Sponkz wrote:
AD: Yellowpete¨
Support: nRated (so cheap, so gud)
Top: sOAZ (cheap aswell)
Mid: Alex Ich
Jungle: Snoopeh

2 cheap fnatic players, i regret taking yellowpete but i had no idea who else to take, since i didn't want Doublelift. Alex ich as mid, he always gets good KDA's. Snoopeh jungler seems abit wtf, but i couldn't afford Diamondprox

Snoopeh is terribly out of shape atm. Unfortunately this and other knowledge wont get me anything as we dont get points yet.

Snoopeh just put up HUGE points vs Gambit lol
I'm on GOLD CHAIN
Redox
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany24794 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-09 20:27:40
February 09 2013 20:27 GMT
#84
On February 10 2013 05:19 ZERG_RUSSIAN wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 09 2013 02:00 Redox wrote:
On February 09 2013 01:27 Sponkz wrote:
AD: Yellowpete¨
Support: nRated (so cheap, so gud)
Top: sOAZ (cheap aswell)
Mid: Alex Ich
Jungle: Snoopeh

2 cheap fnatic players, i regret taking yellowpete but i had no idea who else to take, since i didn't want Doublelift. Alex ich as mid, he always gets good KDA's. Snoopeh jungler seems abit wtf, but i couldn't afford Diamondprox

Snoopeh is terribly out of shape atm. Unfortunately this and other knowledge wont get me anything as we dont get points yet.

Snoopeh just put up HUGE points vs Gambit lol

Well it was a good team performance, they all had good scores.
Still me picking Wickd was just right. :D
I knew he was in great shape. Now when we actually get points he will be too expensive though.
Off-season = best season
jaybrundage
Profile Joined December 2009
United States3921 Posts
February 09 2013 21:44 GMT
#85
So when does the first batch of points come out
The more you sweat in training, the less you bleed in battle.
Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands21687 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-09 22:04:18
February 09 2013 22:04 GMT
#86
On February 10 2013 06:44 jaybrundage wrote:
So when does the first batch of points come out


I assume there arnt doing the points untill all games for this week are done.
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35150 Posts
February 09 2013 23:18 GMT
#87
On February 10 2013 07:04 Gorsameth wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 10 2013 06:44 jaybrundage wrote:
So when does the first batch of points come out


I assume there arnt doing the points untill all games for this week are done.

Week 3.
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
February 10 2013 02:21 GMT
#88
I need to rethink my lineup. EU seems like it has too much parity for there to be a lot of good buys.
Freeeeeeedom
IMABUNNEH
Profile Joined March 2011
United Kingdom1062 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-10 19:22:03
February 10 2013 03:29 GMT
#89
Genja, GosuPepper, Soaz, xPeke and Snoopeh. I'd rather take a balanced team to over and under performers, and that M5 botlane ALWAYS comes out ahead, even in the games they lose.

EDIT: Changed out Soaz and xPeke for Kiwikid and Nyjacky. They always do well, and I feel having all my guys from different EU teams isn't too handy.
"I think...now? No rival. Me world champion. Yeah. None rival." - oGsMC
ZERG_RUSSIAN
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
10417 Posts
February 10 2013 19:21 GMT
#90
I just realized how easy it is to score points by just betting on established teams playing new teams...
I'm on GOLD CHAIN
DragoonTT
Profile Joined April 2012
3398 Posts
February 10 2013 23:18 GMT
#91
On February 11 2013 04:21 ZERG_RUSSIAN wrote:
I just realized how easy it is to score points by just betting on established teams playing new teams...

And then SK/GIANTS defeat EG/GG. Could work for NA, though
Zhuu
Profile Joined September 2011
United States356 Posts
February 11 2013 04:00 GMT
#92
Nice, just signed up, thanks for the post, I never knew this existed.
♥ Lee Soon-kyu ♥ @xZhuu
sylverfyre
Profile Joined May 2010
United States8298 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-11 16:00:03
February 11 2013 15:50 GMT
#93
On February 11 2013 08:18 DragoonTT wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 11 2013 04:21 ZERG_RUSSIAN wrote:
I just realized how easy it is to score points by just betting on established teams playing new teams...

And then SK/GIANTS defeat EG/GG. Could work for NA, though

And then all my points are gone.

At least Fnatic did well.

Note: They haven't distributed points for this week, but fear not, they're going to.
onlywonderboy
Profile Joined August 2012
United States23745 Posts
February 11 2013 16:12 GMT
#94
On February 12 2013 00:50 sylverfyre wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 11 2013 08:18 DragoonTT wrote:
On February 11 2013 04:21 ZERG_RUSSIAN wrote:
I just realized how easy it is to score points by just betting on established teams playing new teams...

And then SK/GIANTS defeat EG/GG. Could work for NA, though

And then all my points are gone.

At least Fnatic did well.

Note: They haven't distributed points for this week, but fear not, they're going to.

Everyone picked sOAZ and nRated, both under perform lol. Maybe their stock will go down and we can pick them for cheap and they'll have a turn around!
RIP Ryan Davis / TL or Die / @onlywonderboy
DragoonTT
Profile Joined April 2012
3398 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-11 16:19:25
February 11 2013 16:16 GMT
#95
I really wonder what the best possible lineup was. Probably 5/5 Curse, though, or Curse plus DLift if that was affordable. Some EG players should have pretty good scores, too.
Ryuu314
Profile Joined October 2009
United States12679 Posts
February 11 2013 18:13 GMT
#96
On February 12 2013 01:12 onlywonderboy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 12 2013 00:50 sylverfyre wrote:
On February 11 2013 08:18 DragoonTT wrote:
On February 11 2013 04:21 ZERG_RUSSIAN wrote:
I just realized how easy it is to score points by just betting on established teams playing new teams...

And then SK/GIANTS defeat EG/GG. Could work for NA, though

And then all my points are gone.

At least Fnatic did well.

Note: They haven't distributed points for this week, but fear not, they're going to.

Everyone picked sOAZ and nRated, both under perform lol. Maybe their stock will go down and we can pick them for cheap and they'll have a turn around!

soaz and nrated were already pretty cheap lol
Lylat
Profile Joined August 2009
France8575 Posts
February 11 2013 18:29 GMT
#97
Chaox, nRated, Wickd, xPeke (<3), Stvicious

Pretty balanced team I guess, Wickd was very good in the 2 matches I saw, xPeke is always great, nRated failed a bit but he's still strong (and cheap), Stvicious is on fire, Chaox rarely fails and is pretty solid overall.
onlywonderboy
Profile Joined August 2012
United States23745 Posts
February 11 2013 18:37 GMT
#98
On February 12 2013 03:13 Ryuu314 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 12 2013 01:12 onlywonderboy wrote:
On February 12 2013 00:50 sylverfyre wrote:
On February 11 2013 08:18 DragoonTT wrote:
On February 11 2013 04:21 ZERG_RUSSIAN wrote:
I just realized how easy it is to score points by just betting on established teams playing new teams...

And then SK/GIANTS defeat EG/GG. Could work for NA, though

And then all my points are gone.

At least Fnatic did well.

Note: They haven't distributed points for this week, but fear not, they're going to.

Everyone picked sOAZ and nRated, both under perform lol. Maybe their stock will go down and we can pick them for cheap and they'll have a turn around!

soaz and nrated were already pretty cheap lol

Now they will stay cheap since their stats weren't too impressive lol. I'm hoping for a turn around. They died a lot.
RIP Ryan Davis / TL or Die / @onlywonderboy
GhandiEAGLE
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States20754 Posts
February 11 2013 19:30 GMT
#99
Voy, Brunch U, ecco, elementz, and brokenshard... lol this wont go well
Oh, my achin' hands, from rakin' in grands, and breakin' in mic stands
DragoonTT
Profile Joined April 2012
3398 Posts
February 11 2013 20:00 GMT
#100
Week 2 will probably have many SK, EG, TSM and Curse members everywhere - TSM and EG have three more or less should-win games each, SK two and a possible-but-not-quite-favourable rematch against EG, and Curse has two favourable matches as well. Considering many players on Curse and SK are currently underrated, expect lots of Nyjackys, CandyPandas and Elementz'.
Lounge
Profile Joined November 2011
537 Posts
February 12 2013 17:34 GMT
#101
It looks like they are in the process of updating scores or something, I don't know. This seems really buggy right now. I can look up standings but can't actually look at specific team score.

Also they are updating player costs, but it hasn't yet done so if you already made the team.

For example, my current team for teamliquid.net is
Candy Panda $15
Elementz $16
Dyrus $21
Froggen $28
Saintvicious $20

If I try to make that team for a new league their prices are
$25, $25, $25, $22, $28 respectively. So I will need to change my team if this is suppose to effect the next week, but it still has my team at the old values.
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35150 Posts
February 12 2013 20:18 GMT
#102
Disliking this repick each week thing.
Ryuu314
Profile Joined October 2009
United States12679 Posts
February 12 2013 21:03 GMT
#103
So...I can see standings but I cant see my team's score :[
Doctorbeat
Profile Joined May 2011
Netherlands13241 Posts
February 13 2013 11:29 GMT
#104
Sup guise, this week's team for me:

Yellowpete
Krepo
Nyjacky
Voyboy
Svenskeren

Saintvicious too expensive!
- TEAM LIQUID - doctorbeat on LoL
Don_Julio
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
2220 Posts
February 13 2013 11:55 GMT
#105
So with this format you are obliged to pick players who have three matches, arent you. That makes for a very limited choice. Or can you save money somehow?

AD Imqatpie 24$
Sup Deficio 1$
Top Dyrus 25$
Mid scarra 21$
Jungle hyrqBot 28$
sylverfyre
Profile Joined May 2010
United States8298 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-13 16:20:52
February 13 2013 16:15 GMT
#106
ARGH why are all the top laners so expensive!

Finally settled on something:
AD Carry Genja $18
Support Krepo $16
Top KiWiKid $27
Mid Froggen $22
Jungle Crumbzz $16

I'M PUTTING A LOT OF FAITH IN YOU DIG. DUN LET ME DOWN.
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35150 Posts
February 13 2013 16:24 GMT
#107
Eh, until they have static rosters, I'm done.
onlywonderboy
Profile Joined August 2012
United States23745 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-13 16:29:47
February 13 2013 16:29 GMT
#108
Darien
hyrqBot
Froggen
Deficio
Chaox

I think getting a really cheap player (Deficio) and stacking the rest of your team with super stars will be the way to go. Kinda taking a risk on hyrqBot, but he was a beast last week and scored tons of points.

Edit: Also picked Chaox because they should roll the teams they are playing this week.
RIP Ryan Davis / TL or Die / @onlywonderboy
Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands21687 Posts
February 13 2013 16:34 GMT
#109
Genja
Xpecial
Voyboy
Reginald
Crumbzz

While i also considered your idea Onlywonderboy but Defico is playing 3 games this week and pretty much already lost 2 of em. Not a good buy imo since he will give you negative points. If you wanne be cheap get nRated for 3 gold and be sure he will go 0 points this week since hes not playing.
But supports can score lots of points aswell so imo not worth going for a throwaway pick.
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
onlywonderboy
Profile Joined August 2012
United States23745 Posts
February 13 2013 16:42 GMT
#110
Yeah it's a gamble, just depends on how he actually does. I hadn't considered the fact that three games means he's more likely to lose more points. In the end it just comes down to whether or not the better players I pick up make more points than Deficio loses. I might considered nRated and shuffle someone else around though.
RIP Ryan Davis / TL or Die / @onlywonderboy
sylverfyre
Profile Joined May 2010
United States8298 Posts
February 13 2013 16:43 GMT
#111
On February 14 2013 01:34 Gorsameth wrote:
Genja
Xpecial
Voyboy
Reginald
Crumbzz

While i also considered your idea Onlywonderboy but Defico is playing 3 games this week and pretty much already lost 2 of em. Not a good buy imo since he will give you negative points. If you wanne be cheap get nRated for 3 gold and be sure he will go 0 points this week since hes not playing.
But supports can score lots of points aswell so imo not worth going for a throwaway pick.

Depends on how badly you think they'll do those 3 games. As support, if you have as many assists as you have deaths, you're net positive. Will the games be a bloody killtrading mess, will they be shut out entirely?
GhandiEAGLE
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States20754 Posts
February 13 2013 17:28 GMT
#112
Either way, I am rolling with Best Dolphin NA. I can't lose.
Oh, my achin' hands, from rakin' in grands, and breakin' in mic stands
Ghost-z
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1291 Posts
February 13 2013 18:42 GMT
#113
If someone plays 3 games this week it should just take the average of those scores for their weekly score.
Fairy Tales when you're a child begin with "Once upon a time" and when you're an adult begin, "If elected I promise..."
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35150 Posts
February 13 2013 19:41 GMT
#114
On February 14 2013 01:43 sylverfyre wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 14 2013 01:34 Gorsameth wrote:
Genja
Xpecial
Voyboy
Reginald
Crumbzz

While i also considered your idea Onlywonderboy but Defico is playing 3 games this week and pretty much already lost 2 of em. Not a good buy imo since he will give you negative points. If you wanne be cheap get nRated for 3 gold and be sure he will go 0 points this week since hes not playing.
But supports can score lots of points aswell so imo not worth going for a throwaway pick.

Depends on how badly you think they'll do those 3 games. As support, if you have as many assists as you have deaths, you're net positive. Will the games be a bloody killtrading mess, will they be shut out entirely?

Deaths are -2 and kills are +3 for supports, iirc.
sylverfyre
Profile Joined May 2010
United States8298 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-14 18:48:23
February 14 2013 18:45 GMT
#115
On February 14 2013 03:42 Ghost-z wrote:
If someone plays 3 games this week it should just take the average of those scores for their weekly score.

They effectively do - they divide by the TOTAL number of minutes of gametime a player has, and normalize it to 20 minutes. You don't get an advantage for picking players who are in 3 games instead of 1.

I didn't realize this before, actually - and had gravitated towards 3-game players. Now I'm a little more all-inning on Curse (who is both crushingly strong and playing against Vulcun and Complexity.

Unfortunately Curse members are pretty expensive right now, so I only have Voyboy and Cop.

On February 14 2013 02:28 GhandiEAGLE wrote:
Either way, I am rolling with Best Dolphin NA. I can't lose.

Ecco <3

I wasn't brave enough to pick him up at $20. If you're right, I'll be eating my words.

It didn't help I only have a $16 budget for my other 3 members.
Mensol
Profile Joined September 2012
14536 Posts
February 14 2013 20:54 GMT
#116
my lu for this week:

Doublelift
Wickd
Krepo
Cyanide
Link
If you don't know what the fuck you are doing, how are your enemies supposed to know what the fuck you are doing. - imaqtpie on NA teams at Worlds.
Redox
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany24794 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-14 21:17:16
February 14 2013 21:14 GMT
#117
On February 15 2013 05:54 Mensol wrote:
my lu for this week:

Doublelift
Wickd
Krepo
Cyanide
Link

I thought Fnatic doesnt play this week. Doesnt that mean you get 0 for Cyanide?

Same for Link and Doublelift actually.

Mine is:

Genja
Xpecial
Wickd
Froggen
Crumbzz
Off-season = best season
Mensol
Profile Joined September 2012
14536 Posts
February 14 2013 21:45 GMT
#118
On February 15 2013 06:14 Redox wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 15 2013 05:54 Mensol wrote:
my lu for this week:

Doublelift
Wickd
Krepo
Cyanide
Link

I thought Fnatic doesnt play this week. Doesnt that mean you get 0 for Cyanide?

Same for Link and Doublelift actually.

Mine is:

Genja
Xpecial
Wickd
Froggen
Crumbzz

goddamn i didnt check that :D

If you don't know what the fuck you are doing, how are your enemies supposed to know what the fuck you are doing. - imaqtpie on NA teams at Worlds.
Ryuu314
Profile Joined October 2009
United States12679 Posts
February 14 2013 23:05 GMT
#119
So how do you check how many points you have?
sylverfyre
Profile Joined May 2010
United States8298 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-15 16:02:41
February 15 2013 16:01 GMT
#120
On February 15 2013 08:05 Ryuu314 wrote:
So how do you check how many points you have?

As far as I can tell, if you're not in TL's top 20 or so, you can't? That makes no sense to me. Posting over there to see if we can't resolve this - the admins have at least been pretty responsive.

If they keep the same system in the future, I'd be willing to run our own fantasy league using ol'fashioned spreadsheets using our own Fantasy Proleague style rules (set a roster, plus trades)
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35150 Posts
February 15 2013 17:01 GMT
#121
On February 16 2013 01:01 sylverfyre wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 15 2013 08:05 Ryuu314 wrote:
So how do you check how many points you have?

As far as I can tell, if you're not in TL's top 20 or so, you can't? That makes no sense to me. Posting over there to see if we can't resolve this - the admins have at least been pretty responsive.

If they keep the same system in the future, I'd be willing to run our own fantasy league using ol'fashioned spreadsheets using our own Fantasy Proleague style rules (set a roster, plus trades)

This would be awesome.
DragoonTT
Profile Joined April 2012
3398 Posts
February 18 2013 12:37 GMT
#122
We congratulate Redox on winning week 2 of LCS Fantasy! 97 points is pretty good. Runner-up is EpicPleasure, scoring 95.


Seems unlikely they'll change the system for the site, though, according to the few posts in their forums. I'd gladly participate in a League run by sylverfyre instead.
Mensol
Profile Joined September 2012
14536 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-18 21:38:43
February 18 2013 14:28 GMT
#123
my lu for this week:

DoubleLift
nRated
sOAz
Chauster
xPeke
If you don't know what the fuck you are doing, how are your enemies supposed to know what the fuck you are doing. - imaqtpie on NA teams at Worlds.
Doctorbeat
Profile Joined May 2011
Netherlands13241 Posts
February 18 2013 15:52 GMT
#124
Jeez, so hard to pick with like 80% of all players being +20 bucks.

My lineup:
Jimbz
Aphromoo
Chauster
ecco
Spontexx

ecco pls carry Clakeyfeed ;;
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Kaldr
Profile Joined June 2011
Australia67 Posts
February 18 2013 17:56 GMT
#125
Lineup:
HosaN
Babeta
HotshotGG
xPeke
Morden

Feels like all the good choices for AD carry and top became just abit too expensive.
gtrsrs
Profile Joined June 2010
United States9109 Posts
February 18 2013 19:00 GMT
#126
On February 16 2013 01:01 sylverfyre wrote:
If they keep the same system in the future, I'd be willing to run our own fantasy league using ol'fashioned spreadsheets using our own Fantasy Proleague style rules (set a roster, plus trades)


i'm currently working with some people on a fantasy site that *makes sense*, with the above concept

>draft a set roster
>trades
>a way better UI

just give me a little time and i'll pull through, TL!
i play ... hearthstone =\^.^/= Winterfox
sylverfyre
Profile Joined May 2010
United States8298 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-18 19:05:10
February 18 2013 19:01 GMT
#127
On February 18 2013 21:37 DragoonTT wrote:
We congratulate Redox on winning week 2 of LCS Fantasy! 97 points is pretty good. Runner-up is EpicPleasure, scoring 95.


Seems unlikely they'll change the system for the site, though, according to the few posts in their forums. I'd gladly participate in a League run by sylverfyre instead.

Don't hold your breath on one from me, I'm still not sure exactly how we should be valuing players, and I'd need help collecting stats. I think it's more likely going to be for the second half of the season that I put together one. I'll maybe run a test-run on a week or two of this one jsut to try and get

Things I wish I had access to for valuation: Gold per minute (but casters dont show gold screen often)
I like their KDA/minute system (though I think CS is greatly undervalued in the current system, and rewards bloody messes of games greatly over clean play.

I think win/loss should be factored in - ultimately, this is where true skill factors in, right?

I think dragon/baron should be factored in somehow (best way would be if I could find a way to access gold/minute from players)
Doctorbeat
Profile Joined May 2011
Netherlands13241 Posts
February 18 2013 19:23 GMT
#128
On February 19 2013 04:01 sylverfyre wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 18 2013 21:37 DragoonTT wrote:
We congratulate Redox on winning week 2 of LCS Fantasy! 97 points is pretty good. Runner-up is EpicPleasure, scoring 95.


Seems unlikely they'll change the system for the site, though, according to the few posts in their forums. I'd gladly participate in a League run by sylverfyre instead.

Don't hold your breath on one from me, I'm still not sure exactly how we should be valuing players, and I'd need help collecting stats. I think it's more likely going to be for the second half of the season that I put together one. I'll maybe run a test-run on a week or two of this one jsut to try and get

Things I wish I had access to for valuation: Gold per minute (but casters dont show gold screen often)
I like their KDA/minute system (though I think CS is greatly undervalued in the current system, and rewards bloody messes of games greatly over clean play.

I think win/loss should be factored in - ultimately, this is where true skill factors in, right?

I think dragon/baron should be factored in somehow (best way would be if I could find a way to access gold/minute from players)


I'd say win/loss should be valued the most, and KDA/personal performance second. If you constantly get high KDA and farm but cannot win a game, are you even among the best players?
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TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-18 19:33:45
February 18 2013 19:32 GMT
#129
Scoring mechanism as from DotA-Academy's Fantasy League:

+ Show Spoiler +


How do we get points?

Now, this is the tricky part, but we'll make it so that you don't have to do any math at all. First of all, for each match, we track 5 things about each player:

Which hero he picked.
How many Kills he had.
How many Deaths he had.
How many Assists he had.
How much GPM he had.

Gee, Bruno, that looks a lot like the stats you track in the site! And it's for a reason! The points you'll get will depend on how well that player did, and compare those totals with the averages for that hero. Depending on how much worse/better they were from the averages, you'll get less/more points.

There's a different system for each stat. Click here to know how it goes.

For Kills and Assists:

If you get more than 2x the Average for that hero, you get 5 points.
If you get between 1.5x and 2x the Average for that hero, you get 3 points.
If you get between 1x and 1.5x the Average for that hero, you get 1 points.
If you get between 0.5x and 1x the Average for that hero, you get 0 points.
If you get between less than 0.5x the Average for that hero, but more than 0, you get -1 points.
If you get 0, you get -3 points!

For Deaths it's exactly the opposite

If you get 0 deaths, you get 5 points!
If you get between less than 0.5x the Average for that hero, but more than 0, you get 3 points.
If you get between 0.5x and 1x the Average for that hero, you get 1 points.
If you get between 1x and 1.5x the Average for that hero, you get 0 points.
If you get between 1.5x and 2x the Average for that hero, you get -1 points.
If you get more than 2x the Average for that hero, you get -3 points.

For GPM, the score is trickier. While Kills Deaths and Assists don't have any hard high constraints (A player can end up 99-76-153, although really unlikely) GPM is generally more rigid so the formula used before doesn't really work too well. So the calculation we use, involves the concept of Standard Deviation. Simply put, Standard Deviation is a value calculated, similarly to how you'd calculate an average, and it helps you calculate for a specific number, what percentage of the values from which you're calculating the average. So, for example, if a certain group of values has an average of 10 and a standard deviation of 2, it means that: ~67% of the values in that group are between (10 - 2) and (10 + 2). It also means that ~50% of the values are between (10 - 0.674 * 2) and (10 + 0.674 * 2). The 0.674 comes from a table ( 95% is 1.959, 90% is 1.644) and the good thing about it is that it allows us to calculate the value that is, for example 90% better than all the previous existing values. And that sounds awesome to us, because we can assign points based on how well that player ranked compared to all the previous games with that same hero.

So, the system goes like this, suppose your score ranks somewhere between 0% and 100%, 0% meaning you were worse than EVERYONE ELSE that played with that hero and 100% meaning you were BETTER than everyone else, while 50% means that you were exactly in the middle (The average):

If you're rank between 0% and 10%, you get -3 points.
If you rank between 10% and 25%, you get -1 points.
If you rank between 25% and 50%, you get 0 points.
If you rank between 50% and 75%, you get 1 point.
If you rank between 75% and 90%, you get 3 points.
If you rank between 90% and 100%, you get 5 points.

Finally, you get additional points depending on match length and whether your team won or lost. While this might be controversial, due to some teams being structured on winning late, this mainly helps offset low scores in stomps and it won't affect most matches in the 20-50min range. And pretty much no team is structured to win in more than 50 minutes.

The system goes like this:

If you won in less than 20 minutes, you get 5 points (As a bonus for stomping + the fact that your stats will probably not be that great, because you couldn't rack enough kills/assists/gpm)
If you won in between 20 and 50 minutes, you get 2 points (A standard win, more points than a loss, nothing special)
If you lost in less than 50 minutes, you get 1 points (Consider it a consolation prize)
If you lost in more than 50 minutes, you get 5 points (A bonus for holding out for so long)

You can optionally also have a CAPTROLL player. The CAPTROLL in your team will get more points the WORSE he performs. The amount of points you get for your CAPTROLL is 15 minus his actual score.


I like their scoring system, but I wouldn't copy their buy/sell system--the original buy/sell system for DotA-Academy's league was made for TI2, with fixed player cost (since in a 1 week event, player value isn't likely to change that much) and 80% sell-back. A trade-based system makes more sense for an extended league like LCS, because I expect player value to fluctuate much more over a long period of time.
Moderator
Lounge
Profile Joined November 2011
537 Posts
February 18 2013 19:39 GMT
#130
Win/Loss should have value, but picking up good players on "bad" teams is part of fantasy. It's like picking a star quarterback/running back on a bad team, because you know he'll give good numbers, even if his team is bad. League is only 5 players though, so if you are that good you should have more impact.

I like the idea of drafting a "coach" for win/loss. Since there aren't actual coaches in league it would be like drafting a team. Say I could draft EG as my "team", because I think they'll win a lot, but my team is members of Curse, TSM, and Gambit, SK, etc. because I think individually players on those teams are stronger. That way points for wins/loss would be on what team I drafted, but points for kills/etc would be on what players I drafted.

Dragon/Baron should be factors, and so should turrets gained/lost. Sometimes its worth giving up a dragon for a turret, etc. But where they should be assigned is difficult.

The biggest problem I think is there isn't a good stats tracking page for any of this. The LoLesports page basically has 3 stats. KDA, GP/Minute and Total gold. You have to go through the VoDs to get any other stats, and if value is going to be given to Dragons/Barons/Turrets/Double/Triples etc. then it is going to be very time consuming.
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-18 19:44:11
February 18 2013 19:42 GMT
#131
I don't see why Baron/Dragon/Turrets need to have separate value. KDA have value because they are indicators of individual performance, and can signify a strong player on a weak team (he did well when his team lost). Baron/Dragon aren't indicators of anything like that. They are simply team objectives toward victory. I don't see why a team that got more Dragons before they lost should get more points than one that didn't get as many if it's not reflected by better performance via other stats (longer game length, better kill stats due to being able to do better in fights with more gold), etc.
Moderator
Crownlol
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States3726 Posts
February 18 2013 20:09 GMT
#132
Lineup-

Doublelift
nRated
sOaz
Xpeke
Snoopeh
shaGuar :: elemeNt :: XeqtR :: naikon :: method
Crownlol
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States3726 Posts
February 18 2013 20:19 GMT
#133
On February 19 2013 04:42 TheYango wrote:
I don't see why Baron/Dragon/Turrets need to have separate value. KDA have value because they are indicators of individual performance, and can signify a strong player on a weak team (he did well when his team lost). Baron/Dragon aren't indicators of anything like that. They are simply team objectives toward victory. I don't see why a team that got more Dragons before they lost should get more points than one that didn't get as many if it's not reflected by better performance via other stats (longer game length, better kill stats due to being able to do better in fights with more gold), etc.



Perhaps *solo* Baron/Dragon should count for points- rewarding Baron steals, dragon steals, solo dragoning, and the rare solo Baron, while not rewarding people who just showed up as the team killed it.

Thoughts?
shaGuar :: elemeNt :: XeqtR :: naikon :: method
Ryuu314
Profile Joined October 2009
United States12679 Posts
February 18 2013 20:24 GMT
#134
I don't see how you can re-draft the lineup as player's salaries continue to go up, but your salary limit stays the same...
Lounge
Profile Joined November 2011
537 Posts
February 18 2013 21:22 GMT
#135
The problem is the costs are swinging wildly based on having a good game/bad game. Players costing between $1 and ~$35 is a huge difference. I think they expected a $15-25 variance but the scoring system has just caused this drastic differential. I believe the average player cost is still $20, but there's just this huge swing because its changing the costs so drastically.
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
February 18 2013 22:00 GMT
#136
Costs should be normalized per role, IMO. A particular role doing well or poorly is going to cause some weird shifts in the cost distribution for players.
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Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23335 Posts
February 18 2013 22:23 GMT
#137
LOL I fucked myself in this league by not realizing how LCS works and only some teams play in a given week meaning I had like 3-4 players in week 2 that didnt even play hahaha (fnatic i think)
Redox
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany24794 Posts
February 19 2013 01:33 GMT
#138
Yay 97 points last week, most in the TL league. :D

But I guess points gathered so far do not count towards the total right?
Off-season = best season
jaybrundage
Profile Joined December 2009
United States3921 Posts
February 19 2013 05:46 GMT
#139
On February 19 2013 10:33 Redox wrote:
Yay 97 points last week, most in the TL league. :D

But I guess points gathered so far do not count towards the total right?

Nice job :D what was your team last week?
The more you sweat in training, the less you bleed in battle.
sylverfyre
Profile Joined May 2010
United States8298 Posts
February 22 2013 13:38 GMT
#140
On February 19 2013 07:23 Slayer91 wrote:
LOL I fucked myself in this league by not realizing how LCS works and only some teams play in a given week meaning I had like 3-4 players in week 2 that didnt even play hahaha (fnatic i think)

Points didn't start accumulating til week 3 anyway.
Keniji
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Netherlands2569 Posts
February 22 2013 13:59 GMT
#141
If you make your own fantasy league site, you should consider making different leagues for lcs eu and na.

While the drawback is of course that the number of choices gets even more limited, it's awful to compare players in different environments.
Klausenheim
Profile Joined February 2013
4 Posts
February 24 2013 03:52 GMT
#142
Hey-o TL folks, Klausenheim here from Leaguepedia Fantasy (formerly Boss Minion). I just wanted to give a huge thanks to everyone for playing in our fantasy league as well as leaving some constructive criticism here. Since you guys have obviously taken the time to think a lot of this through, I wanted you to know that your concerns have not fallen on deaf ears. Here are some quick replies from me to you

1. We realize that initially we had significant server issues, and we wanted to apologize to you guys for the problems. Thanks for bearing with us as we grow!

2. A lot of you are disappointed in the current lineup format (weekly resets, pricing changes, not being rewarded for proper research). We want to make our system better. When we were first demoing the app people disliked the ability to purchase a player and "lock him in" at that price, even if his actual cost increased. It made newb players feel like they couldn't possibly catch up to early adopters who had locked in all the good guys when they were cheap. I call this the Eve Online effect. Since launch, it has become clear that people would rather feel appreciated for their skill than coddled for their lack of knowledge. We are toying with some ways to fix it, but would love your ideas. I personally am a fan of a "soft" cap at $100, with a hard cap that will hit you around 130-150. Shoot me your thoughts though!

3. Live drafts. This is a feature we always wanted, but the lack of time before the LCS launched just made it impossible. We're just 2 guys working on this on the weekends. However, we have recently started working with a few more devs who (gasp) actually rock at coding. Live drafts will be implemented during the midseason break.

4. Saved Rosters - this is just something that we should have caught in beta. For some reason it never bothered anyone up until about a week ago. Since then it seems blatantly obvious and I can't believe we missed it. The short term fix was making last week's roster viewable so that you can at least copy it quickly.

5. Statistics - right now it is really hard to find and process player statistics. Since we are taking the time to watch every game and record every piece of data, we want this stuff to be front and center. We're working on some ideas right now to really make LoL eSport statistics as cool and user-friendly as "real" sports. Think graphs, KDA charts, match / week / month trackers, and more.

Sorry for the incredibly long winded post! Please feel free to dissect my thoughts and provide your own. We want to create the experience you guys deserve, and we can't do that without helpful feedback.
In the meantime, good luck!

-Matt, AKA Klausenheim
Mensol
Profile Joined September 2012
14536 Posts
February 25 2013 14:46 GMT
#143
Congratulations Soilz.

standings: http://www.leaguepediafantasy.com/standings/?league_id=1118&schedule_id=0
If you don't know what the fuck you are doing, how are your enemies supposed to know what the fuck you are doing. - imaqtpie on NA teams at Worlds.
Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands21687 Posts
February 25 2013 15:16 GMT
#144
I was afraid i would be a lot lower with CLG's screwups this week but they still managed to draw out good points, and Yellowstar despite getting no cred on this forum went big
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
sylverfyre
Profile Joined May 2010
United States8298 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-25 16:08:54
February 25 2013 16:01 GMT
#145
Hm. I could have sworn I had set up a lineup last week, not sure what happened. I was allin on fnatic's botlane, too. D:

Edit: oh i see. I had it only for the "Everyone" league and not the TL league. Bah.

AD Carry YellOwStaR $12 19.00 31.00 Copenhagen Wolves
Support nRated $3 14.00 25.00 Copenhagen Wolves
Top Voyboy $30 19.00 22.00 compLexity Gaming
Mid Nyjacky $29 18.00 20.00 compLexity Gaming
Jungle DiamondProx $26 17.00 21.00 against All authority

It earned 119 points!
Crownlol
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States3726 Posts
February 25 2013 16:51 GMT
#146
On February 24 2013 12:52 Klausenheim wrote:
Hey-o TL folks, Klausenheim here from Leaguepedia Fantasy (formerly Boss Minion). I just wanted to give a huge thanks to everyone for playing in our fantasy league as well as leaving some constructive criticism here. Since you guys have obviously taken the time to think a lot of this through, I wanted you to know that your concerns have not fallen on deaf ears. Here are some quick replies from me to you

1. We realize that initially we had significant server issues, and we wanted to apologize to you guys for the problems. Thanks for bearing with us as we grow!

2. A lot of you are disappointed in the current lineup format (weekly resets, pricing changes, not being rewarded for proper research). We want to make our system better. When we were first demoing the app people disliked the ability to purchase a player and "lock him in" at that price, even if his actual cost increased. It made newb players feel like they couldn't possibly catch up to early adopters who had locked in all the good guys when they were cheap. I call this the Eve Online effect. Since launch, it has become clear that people would rather feel appreciated for their skill than coddled for their lack of knowledge. We are toying with some ways to fix it, but would love your ideas. I personally am a fan of a "soft" cap at $100, with a hard cap that will hit you around 130-150. Shoot me your thoughts though!

3. Live drafts. This is a feature we always wanted, but the lack of time before the LCS launched just made it impossible. We're just 2 guys working on this on the weekends. However, we have recently started working with a few more devs who (gasp) actually rock at coding. Live drafts will be implemented during the midseason break.

4. Saved Rosters - this is just something that we should have caught in beta. For some reason it never bothered anyone up until about a week ago. Since then it seems blatantly obvious and I can't believe we missed it. The short term fix was making last week's roster viewable so that you can at least copy it quickly.

5. Statistics - right now it is really hard to find and process player statistics. Since we are taking the time to watch every game and record every piece of data, we want this stuff to be front and center. We're working on some ideas right now to really make LoL eSport statistics as cool and user-friendly as "real" sports. Think graphs, KDA charts, match / week / month trackers, and more.

Sorry for the incredibly long winded post! Please feel free to dissect my thoughts and provide your own. We want to create the experience you guys deserve, and we can't do that without helpful feedback.
In the meantime, good luck!

-Matt, AKA Klausenheim


I logged in to bitch about exactly these points, so I guess I don't have to!

Excellent to know that you're using community feedback. I can't afford nRated any more since he had a good week, and that sucks, but I'll figure it out. Live drafts would be great, but the player pool is so small that leagues would be capped at 5-10 teams.

Have you considered a heads-up format like Yahoo fantasy football?


shaGuar :: elemeNt :: XeqtR :: naikon :: method
Klausenheim
Profile Joined February 2013
4 Posts
February 25 2013 19:03 GMT
#147
@crownlol glad to save you the time

Indeed, live drafts will require a complete revamp of the league system. That's why it will take a bit more time to develop - look for this to launch at the midseason break (April 20), although we will hopefully have some beta testing happening before then.

The live draft league's will most likely have some sort of head-to-head schedule. Hard to pin down right now.
Crownlol
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States3726 Posts
February 25 2013 20:39 GMT
#148
On February 26 2013 04:03 Klausenheim wrote:
@crownlol glad to save you the time

Indeed, live drafts will require a complete revamp of the league system. That's why it will take a bit more time to develop - look for this to launch at the midseason break (April 20), although we will hopefully have some beta testing happening before then.

The live draft league's will most likely have some sort of head-to-head schedule. Hard to pin down right now.



The biggest issue is wiping teams every week. I joined with 3 friends, and two of them today said "eh, I'm done" after realizing their team was gone.
shaGuar :: elemeNt :: XeqtR :: naikon :: method
GhandiEAGLE
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States20754 Posts
February 25 2013 20:49 GMT
#149
Wow, Wickd and Doublelift are so cheap... I will eat them right up :/
Oh, my achin' hands, from rakin' in grands, and breakin' in mic stands
Mensol
Profile Joined September 2012
14536 Posts
February 25 2013 21:33 GMT
#150
My line up for this week:

doublelift
froggen
wickd
krepo
Chauster
If you don't know what the fuck you are doing, how are your enemies supposed to know what the fuck you are doing. - imaqtpie on NA teams at Worlds.
Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands21687 Posts
February 26 2013 20:07 GMT
#151
It seems worse and worse making a team for this every week. 5 spots 100 points means an average of 20 points but there are so so many over 20 by now that you spend more time looking for who will not get utterly destroyed then finding someone who who will play well.

ps. Is the player points atleast a zero sum formula so that inflation doesn't kill it?
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
sylverfyre
Profile Joined May 2010
United States8298 Posts
February 26 2013 21:02 GMT
#152
On February 27 2013 05:07 Gorsameth wrote:
It seems worse and worse making a team for this every week. 5 spots 100 points means an average of 20 points but there are so so many over 20 by now that you spend more time looking for who will not get utterly destroyed then finding someone who who will play well.

ps. Is the player points atleast a zero sum formula so that inflation doesn't kill it?

I feel your sentiment. At least EG I feel underperformed last week, so their prices are pretty low right now.
ItsMessy
Profile Joined February 2013
2 Posts
February 26 2013 22:16 GMT
#153
@sylverfyre I fixed Team Liquid team, check out your roster!

@Gorsameth Inflation is not a problem. The formula is flexible. The average price for all the players is about 20 dollars right now and it will remain at 20 dollars.

We continue to hear your feedback and we definitely have plans to improve on our current system. The biggest change would be the having to make your team each week, it's become evident that this is deterring users from the fantasy site.
Crownlol
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States3726 Posts
February 28 2013 14:24 GMT
#154
Why can't I see my rosters?
shaGuar :: elemeNt :: XeqtR :: naikon :: method
Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands21687 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-28 16:59:45
February 28 2013 15:38 GMT
#155
On February 28 2013 23:24 Crownlol wrote:
Why can't I see my rosters?


Its the odd way in which it works :p if you go to http://www.leaguepediafantasy.com/league-home/?lid=1118 and look for your name you can still see it but instead of just removing the save button they block the entire team page to stop you from changing mid game :p
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
Crownlol
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States3726 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-28 15:52:13
February 28 2013 15:51 GMT
#156
On March 01 2013 00:38 Gorsameth wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 28 2013 23:24 Crownlol wrote:
Why can't I see my rosters?


Its the odd way in which it works :p if you go to http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/postmessage.php?quote=154&topic_id=397481 and look for your name you can still see it but instead of just removing the save button they block the entire team page to stop you from changing mid game :p


Your link is a reply to my post

Edit: Oh hey! I'm a Corsair now!
shaGuar :: elemeNt :: XeqtR :: naikon :: method
sylverfyre
Profile Joined May 2010
United States8298 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-28 16:43:57
February 28 2013 16:02 GMT
#157
On February 27 2013 07:16 ItsMessy wrote:
@sylverfyre I fixed Team Liquid team, check out your roster!

@Gorsameth Inflation is not a problem. The formula is flexible. The average price for all the players is about 20 dollars right now and it will remain at 20 dollars.

We continue to hear your feedback and we definitely have plans to improve on our current system. The biggest change would be the having to make your team each week, it's become evident that this is deterring users from the fantasy site.

It's really good to hear from you guys directly (both on your site and here) and I'm really happy you're taking all this feedback/criticism into account - it's not always easy to take criticism.

While I'm not happy with the "remaking team every week" system, I'm gonna keep participating because I know you guys are working to make it better.

Crown, the link you want is:
http://www.leaguepediafantasy.com/league-home/?lid=1118
Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands21687 Posts
February 28 2013 17:00 GMT
#158
On March 01 2013 00:51 Crownlol wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 01 2013 00:38 Gorsameth wrote:
On February 28 2013 23:24 Crownlol wrote:
Why can't I see my rosters?


Its the odd way in which it works :p if you go to http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/postmessage.php?quote=154&topic_id=397481 and look for your name you can still see it but instead of just removing the save button they block the entire team page to stop you from changing mid game :p


Your link is a reply to my post

Edit: Oh hey! I'm a Corsair now!


Linking is hard ^^ fixed now :p
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
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