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OutlaW-
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Czech Republic5053 Posts
February 04 2013 09:58 GMT
#1481
On February 04 2013 18:28 TheYango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 04 2013 16:19 WaveofShadow wrote:
Hopefully this will really let teams worldwide know how much strategy there really is involved in LoL and the idea of a metagame is easily countered with the right amount of thought.

I mean, this isn't an issue that's exclusive to LoL. "Metagame", FotMs, and general bandwagoning are common in every competitive game.

There are a couple elements to it:
- For anything but the best teams, it's easier to gauge progress/improvement in execution than in a new strategy. If you copy a known strategy, its easier to drill your execution and compare your faults with those of better teams. If you're creating something new, it's harder to disjoin the flaws in your execution from the flaws in your strategy.
- It's "safer" for a team to copycat strategy and just practice execution. If you spend 100 hours practicing execution, that practice often applies to whatever strategy you may use in the future. If you spend 100 hours coming up with and refining a new strategy, and that strategy becomes obsolete for one reason or another, you might be left with nothing.

I don't think the issue is that teams don't know how much strategy there is in League, or believe that the metagame is well-ingrained, but the risk/reward of spending your practice time on drilling execution vs. developing strategy favors execution unless you're one of the very best.

One reason or another being Riot nerfing everything strong to the ground
Delete your post underage b&. You're incestuous for you're onee-chan so you're clearly not a bad guy, but others might not agree
Two_DoWn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States13684 Posts
February 04 2013 10:17 GMT
#1482
Mod I just realized I would pay, well, at least 5 cents for:

Something that strips JUST the streamer's music from the stream. So you hear them talk, the game talk, but not their music. Then you just play your own. The tactical Mute.
"What is the air speed velocity of an unladen courier?" "Dire or Radiant?"
Chrispy
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Canada5878 Posts
February 04 2013 10:35 GMT
#1483
Btw I was just in a game and Mandatory Cloud said he was 100% sure you could cleanse knock ups. He said this after he got blitz pulled and died at level 3 or so. Anyways another guy (unstoppable - who btw is an absolute beast jungler in every game I play with him) said you could cleanse the stun after a knock up - which makes sense but does that even happen? Which spells stun you after a knock up?

So yeah, what are these idyats talking about?
Retvrn to Forvms
EquilasH
Profile Joined April 2009
Denmark2142 Posts
February 04 2013 10:39 GMT
#1484
I'm pretty sure the only knock-up that stuns after the initial knock-up is Alistar's which stuns for 0.5 seconds. I've tried panic-cleansing malp ult and nothing happened.
wat
zulu_nation8
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
China26351 Posts
February 04 2013 10:39 GMT
#1485
wow nice namedrops chrispy, the bragging thread is that way
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-04 10:41:11
February 04 2013 10:39 GMT
#1486
On February 04 2013 19:35 Chrispy wrote:
Btw I was just in a game and Mandatory Cloud said he was 100% sure you could cleanse knock ups. He said this after he got blitz pulled and died at level 3 or so. Anyways another guy (unstoppable - who btw is an absolute beast jungler in every game I play with him) said you could cleanse the stun after a knock up - which makes sense but does that even happen? Which spells stun you after a knock up?

So yeah, what are these idyats talking about?

Alistar's Pulverize stuns for 0.5 seconds after the knockup. Rupture, Chum the Waters, and Tidal Wave slow after the knockup (obviously, this can be cleansed). Depth Charge both stuns and knocks up. I *think* the stun is longer than the knockup on the higher ranks (and therefore can be cleansed) but I'm not 100% sure.
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OutlaW-
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Czech Republic5053 Posts
February 04 2013 10:41 GMT
#1487
If you're knocked up, you can't move (or attack) and cast anything. If you cleanse while knocked up, you still can't move (or attack) but you can now use abilities. I think that's what he meant that you cleanse the stun part of the knock up but you still can't move.
Delete your post underage b&. You're incestuous for you're onee-chan so you're clearly not a bad guy, but others might not agree
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
February 04 2013 10:42 GMT
#1488
On February 04 2013 19:41 OutlaW- wrote:
If you're knocked up, you can't move (or attack) and cast anything. If you cleanse while knocked up, you still can't move (or attack) but you can now use abilities. I think that's what he meant that you cleanse the stun part of the knock up but you still can't move.

Can someone confirm this? Because as far as I'm aware, cleanse doesn't partially cleanse knockups like this.
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OutlaW-
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Czech Republic5053 Posts
February 04 2013 10:43 GMT
#1489
If anybody wants to test it, I'm down. I've been wondering this for a while.
Delete your post underage b&. You're incestuous for you're onee-chan so you're clearly not a bad guy, but others might not agree
EquilasH
Profile Joined April 2009
Denmark2142 Posts
February 04 2013 10:43 GMT
#1490
There's no reason to answer questions when we have Yango -.-
wat
UniversalSnip
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
9871 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-04 10:52:33
February 04 2013 10:51 GMT
#1491
yeah as I recall multiple knockups - i don't know which ones exactly - are actually short knockups with stuns layered over them, so that tenacity should work fully on them and cleanse should recover from part of them.
"How fucking dare you defile the sanctity of DotA with your fucking casual plebian terminology? May the curse of Gaben and Volvo be upon you. le filthy casual."
OutlaW-
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Czech Republic5053 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-04 12:24:23
February 04 2013 12:23 GMT
#1492
I hope y'all not sleeping or other shit.
Many of you have probably seen this before or got surprised by it, and I've done it myself quite a few times, but I wanted to try and perfect it today, so I figured might as well upload it and show you guys on TL.

The ward gets in the bush, so unless the bush itself (or the top tribush area) is warded, it's invisible. Takes some practice but you will get it right. I have a video of doing it top lane as well.
Also I'd ask not to share it around too much because I don't want it to go viral to the point where everybody knows and expects it (or worst case scenario more lee nerfs)
Delete your post underage b&. You're incestuous for you're onee-chan so you're clearly not a bad guy, but others might not agree
SnK-Arcbound
Profile Joined March 2005
United States4423 Posts
February 04 2013 12:29 GMT
#1493
Seen jarvans do it using their flag toss.
Scip
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Czech Republic11293 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-04 13:08:05
February 04 2013 13:07 GMT
#1494
My game just disappeared I cant reconnect and it says I am dc

there is just no reconnect button in the client
"It may be pleasurable for some of us to imagine being ravished" - Christopher Hitchens in a debate with feminists RIP 2011 Psalm 2:9 You shall break them with a rod of iron
OutlaW-
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Czech Republic5053 Posts
February 04 2013 13:07 GMT
#1495
you're offline
Delete your post underage b&. You're incestuous for you're onee-chan so you're clearly not a bad guy, but others might not agree
Scip
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Czech Republic11293 Posts
February 04 2013 13:10 GMT
#1496
LOL nvm I just dced for a tiny bit and then enemy surrendered so there was no game to reconnect to HAHAHA
"It may be pleasurable for some of us to imagine being ravished" - Christopher Hitchens in a debate with feminists RIP 2011 Psalm 2:9 You shall break them with a rod of iron
MCMilo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States365 Posts
February 04 2013 13:29 GMT
#1497
maybe you're just that good at the game scip
SHr3DD3r
Profile Joined March 2009
Pakistan2137 Posts
February 04 2013 13:55 GMT
#1498
his team was better off without him. GG
Hit them hard! Hit them low! - Forever a Bisu Fan!~!
ReignSupreme.
Profile Blog Joined September 2012
Australia4123 Posts
February 04 2013 13:56 GMT
#1499
Can you customise LoL so everything is less shiny? Feel like i'm having a seizure when theres a lot of creeps/minions in lane; i assume i can just turn models/effects down to a lower quality but is there any other way?
TheKefka
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Croatia11752 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-04 14:13:34
February 04 2013 14:13 GMT
#1500
On February 04 2013 22:56 ReignSupreme. wrote:
Can you customise LoL so everything is less shiny? Feel like i'm having a seizure when theres a lot of creeps/minions in lane; i assume i can just turn models/effects down to a lower quality but is there any other way?

just play on low quality setting for what ever is bothering you,models,spells,environment etc
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