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On February 02 2013 03:34 TheYango wrote:Show nested quote +On February 02 2013 03:25 Caller wrote:
FYI...
The next person that says "shot-caller" will be shot. By Caller. I don't know why the term "captain" is so hard for people to use, seeing as that's exactly what a team captain does.
I think the aversion to the term comes from the idea that a "captain" is on a higher pedestal or higher ranking that the rest of the team. You see some teams with this dynamic, but I think a lot of the time "shot-caller" implies that you're on the same standing as everyone else, but you have the final decision on engagements and the like.
It's a dumb distinction, but I'm sure it was because someone was like "wtf you're not the captain, I'm better than you scrub", because this is League of Legends.
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On February 02 2013 03:47 Seuss wrote:Show nested quote +On February 02 2013 03:36 NeoIllusions wrote:On February 02 2013 01:12 Seuss wrote:On February 02 2013 00:59 AsmodeusXI wrote:On February 02 2013 00:56 Crownlol wrote:On February 02 2013 00:48 Requizen wrote:On February 02 2013 00:45 Crownlol wrote:On February 02 2013 00:17 Djagulingu wrote:On February 02 2013 00:07 BlueSpace wrote:On February 01 2013 23:39 Crownlol wrote:
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It's always bugged me that LoL is a redheaded stepchild on this site, yet looking at the viewership on Twitch it is by FAR the most-watched esport right now. Twitch viewership last night (I watch before bed); SC2 5k, DotA 5k, WoW 11k (wat), LoL 75k. I love being a redheaded stepchild, if that means I can discuss in an enviroment with a relative low number of trolls and people that are generally polite to each other. Seriously... why are people so obsessed about increasing the size of this place. I don't care about how many people regularly discuss here, I only care about the quality of the discussion. I'm sure that some people which put so much effort into this sub-forum would like to have a wider recognition and I totally think they deserve it, but selfish-me wants this place to remain small. I don't love being a redheaded stepchild but LoL forums feel like TL before SC2 trolls, so I'll take that  . It would be nice if literally all LoL discussion wasn't in a single thread that just gets cleared every few weeks. Subforums broken down by role, for example, would be amazing. I'm not sure there's enough enough active TL LoL members to warrant its own subforum. We have separate role and champion threads, and while they see some flurries of activities, I don't think it is enough to justify entire General and Strategy categories like the SC2 and DotA2 subforums have. The amount of active TL LoLers could be related to the quality of LoL support- I have no evidence for this, but it's possible. For example, I NEVER go to /r/Starcraft, but I often have to use /r/leagueoflegends simply because the LoL support isn't great. Hey now, the quality of the LoL content on TL is pretty damn high... it's just there's only so much coverage we can do as a small staff for an unofficial subforum. We could always use more volunteers! TL LoL subforum, where all the posters are strong, all the mods are good-looking, and all the newbies are above average. More seriously, we are still a small, tight-knit community. While the quality of our posting and of our posters is way above the norm, we simply don't have enough people or volume to support a partitioned subforum. When and if we reach that point it's going to be bittersweet, because in many ways it will represent the end of the "golden age" for the subforum, even as it heralds the ascension of LoL itself. All good things must come to an end. Usher in a new age. Who says it'll be bad? Change is not always bad... That's why it's bittersweet. We'll lose some things in exchange for others, but we'll always look back on what we lost fondly even if what we gained is greater.
Stop being old.
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On February 02 2013 03:06 Slayer91 wrote:Show nested quote +On February 02 2013 02:45 Seuss wrote:On February 02 2013 02:16 Slayer91 wrote:On February 01 2013 10:26 Seuss wrote:On February 01 2013 10:14 NeoIllusions wrote:
I don't get the complaints about Seekers. LiNk thinks that item is going to be popular as fk and I concur. It's a matter of principle, specifically, "Perfection is achieved not when there is nothing left to add, but when there is nothing left to take away.” – Antoine de Saint-Exupery That quote is kinda wrong though. I guess it's like "well if you have a blade that's half as long as you need it to be and has no hilt it's a perfect half sized blade with no hilt" while "a blade with a hilt that needs sharpening needs something to be taken away". In mathematical terms he's saying Perfection isn't inf(upper bound) but is sup(lower bound) infimum of an upper bound is the lowest possible value of the upper bound which in 1-D terms basically means nothing left to ad supreme of a lower bound is his highest possible value of a lower bound still in the function again in 1-D terms nothing left to take away. In mathematics for a function to be integratable it must satisfy both of these conditions. And from my viewpoint it's the same as perfection. A perfect blade has just enough of something, not too much of not too little. There's a point in that quote and its eloquent but it's incomplete. Ironically the quote is perfect if you take the assumption that what he says in the quote is true. LOL, fucking french fag hoisted by his own petards gg l2math bro But he's not talking about math. o.O The fuller version of the quote is: "A designer knows he has achieved perfection not when there is nothing left to add, but when there is nothing left to take away." Antoine de Saint-Exupéry was poet, aviator, and author of The Little Prince, not a mathematician. He's not talking about bounds, integration, and functions, he's talking about writing, verse, and design. I'm imagining if I'd quoted "a date that will live in infamy" you'd have said, "lolwut dates don't live". you just repeated the quote again as if they proves your post it doesnt matter what we're talking about a story isn't perfect if there's nothing to take away, a blank page has nothing to take away. A perfect story without an ending has nothing to take away but you just cut off an important piece. It's an important quote because it puts focus on keeping things trim to preserve clarity of vision however that's not everything. It's just "less is more" is usually a good guideline because people in design and writing tend to overclutter things when it's not needed. Conciseness is good but that quote shouldn't be taken out of context as I explained in my above post.
I think you completely missed the point. Both of your analogies (the knife and the story) aren't really reflective of the quote's meaning at all. It's not about reducing to the lowest possible common denominator (ultimately being nothing, depending on perspective and context), but instead about removing things that are not necessary. I think most people would agree that an ending to a story is necessary, or that the other half of the blade is necessary. In terms of software engineering (my background) this would translate to streamlining to improve efficiency within guidelines of maximum price and space. You still have to fill the original requirement of the task at hand.
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United States15536 Posts
On February 02 2013 03:35 Seuss wrote:Show nested quote +On February 02 2013 03:06 Slayer91 wrote:On February 02 2013 02:45 Seuss wrote:On February 02 2013 02:16 Slayer91 wrote:On February 01 2013 10:26 Seuss wrote:On February 01 2013 10:14 NeoIllusions wrote:
I don't get the complaints about Seekers. LiNk thinks that item is going to be popular as fk and I concur. It's a matter of principle, specifically, "Perfection is achieved not when there is nothing left to add, but when there is nothing left to take away.” – Antoine de Saint-Exupery That quote is kinda wrong though. I guess it's like "well if you have a blade that's half as long as you need it to be and has no hilt it's a perfect half sized blade with no hilt" while "a blade with a hilt that needs sharpening needs something to be taken away". In mathematical terms he's saying Perfection isn't inf(upper bound) but is sup(lower bound) infimum of an upper bound is the lowest possible value of the upper bound which in 1-D terms basically means nothing left to ad supreme of a lower bound is his highest possible value of a lower bound still in the function again in 1-D terms nothing left to take away. In mathematics for a function to be integratable it must satisfy both of these conditions. And from my viewpoint it's the same as perfection. A perfect blade has just enough of something, not too much of not too little. There's a point in that quote and its eloquent but it's incomplete. Ironically the quote is perfect if you take the assumption that what he says in the quote is true. LOL, fucking french fag hoisted by his own petards gg l2math bro But he's not talking about math. o.O The fuller version of the quote is: "A designer knows he has achieved perfection not when there is nothing left to add, but when there is nothing left to take away." Antoine de Saint-Exupéry was poet, aviator, and author of The Little Prince, not a mathematician. He's not talking about bounds, integration, and functions, he's talking about writing, verse, and design. I'm imagining if I'd quoted "a date that will live in infamy" you'd have said, "lolwut dates don't live". you just repeated the quote again as if they proves your post it doesnt matter what we're talking about a story isn't perfect if there's nothing to take away, a blank page has nothing to take away. A perfect story without an ending has nothing to take away but you just cut off an important piece. It's an important quote because it puts focus on keeping things trim to preserve clarity of vision however that's not everything. It's just "less is more" is usually a good guideline because people in design and writing tend to overclutter things when it's not needed. Conciseness is good but that quote shouldn't be taken out of context as I explained in my above post. I'm really confused what context you think the quote is being taken out of. Here's the full context of the original quote: Show nested quote +Sometime in the 1940's Antoine de Saint-Exupéry wrote:
And now, having spoken of the men born of the pilot's craft, I shall say something about the tool with which they work-the air-plane. Have you looked at a modern airplane? Have you followed from year to year the evolution of its lines? Have you ever thought, not only about the airplane but about whatever man builds, that all of man's industrial efforts, all his computations and calculations, all the nights spent over working draughts and blueprints, invariably culminate in the production of a thing whose sole and guiding principle is the ultimate principle of simplicity?
It is as if there were a natural law which ordained that to achieve this end, to refine the curve of a piece of furniture, or a ship's keel, or the fuselage of an airplane, until gradually it partakes of the elementary purity of the curve of 'a human breast or shoulder, there must be the experimentation of several generations of craftsmen. In anything at all, perfection is finally attained not when there is no longer anything to add, but when there is no longer anything to take away, when a body has been stripped down to its nakedness. The quote is quite clearly describing a principle of design where all that is extraneous is removed and all that which is necessary is kept, nothing more or less. This is the principle which I'm applying when I say that Seeker's Armguard is an extraneous addition to LoL's design. I feel like you're misunderstanding the quote, and my point, the same way people commonly misunderstand Occam's Razor.
This may be my favorite appropriation of the TL quote feature ever.
On February 02 2013 03:39 Caller wrote:Show nested quote +On February 02 2013 03:29 AsmodeusXI wrote:On February 02 2013 03:25 Caller wrote:
FYI...
The next person that says "shot-caller" will be shot. By Caller. The shot-caller shot Caller's sharp-colored shock collar. i will hunt you down and shoot you if it is the last thing i do
Laughed way too hard at this. Esp. if it happens. If I don't post for a week, Caller got me.
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Oh just saw that Volibear got a buff. Maybe I'll play him again and-
AHAHA NOPE still trash.
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I'd always thought that it was normal that it said Cryophoenix Egg in the chat when you are messaging with Anivia in egg mode...
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Bringing up Alaric's metrics discussion yesterday about a number being a non-abstract reflection of improvement I would like some help in evolving my new years resolution to become gold this season.
http://www.lolking.net/summoner/na/24019489#profile
How will I know when I have reached my goal under the new system? It was a huge confidence booster when I trudged my way up from 700 to 1200 ELO, i'm looking for the same sense of accomplishment under the new system.
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United States37500 Posts
On February 02 2013 03:47 Seuss wrote:Show nested quote +On February 02 2013 03:36 NeoIllusions wrote:On February 02 2013 01:12 Seuss wrote:On February 02 2013 00:59 AsmodeusXI wrote:On February 02 2013 00:56 Crownlol wrote:On February 02 2013 00:48 Requizen wrote:On February 02 2013 00:45 Crownlol wrote:On February 02 2013 00:17 Djagulingu wrote:On February 02 2013 00:07 BlueSpace wrote:On February 01 2013 23:39 Crownlol wrote:
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It's always bugged me that LoL is a redheaded stepchild on this site, yet looking at the viewership on Twitch it is by FAR the most-watched esport right now. Twitch viewership last night (I watch before bed); SC2 5k, DotA 5k, WoW 11k (wat), LoL 75k. I love being a redheaded stepchild, if that means I can discuss in an enviroment with a relative low number of trolls and people that are generally polite to each other. Seriously... why are people so obsessed about increasing the size of this place. I don't care about how many people regularly discuss here, I only care about the quality of the discussion. I'm sure that some people which put so much effort into this sub-forum would like to have a wider recognition and I totally think they deserve it, but selfish-me wants this place to remain small. I don't love being a redheaded stepchild but LoL forums feel like TL before SC2 trolls, so I'll take that . It would be nice if literally all LoL discussion wasn't in a single thread that just gets cleared every few weeks. Subforums broken down by role, for example, would be amazing. I'm not sure there's enough enough active TL LoL members to warrant its own subforum. We have separate role and champion threads, and while they see some flurries of activities, I don't think it is enough to justify entire General and Strategy categories like the SC2 and DotA2 subforums have. The amount of active TL LoLers could be related to the quality of LoL support- I have no evidence for this, but it's possible. For example, I NEVER go to /r/Starcraft, but I often have to use /r/leagueoflegends simply because the LoL support isn't great. Hey now, the quality of the LoL content on TL is pretty damn high... it's just there's only so much coverage we can do as a small staff for an unofficial subforum. We could always use more volunteers! TL LoL subforum, where all the posters are strong, all the mods are good-looking, and all the newbies are above average. More seriously, we are still a small, tight-knit community. While the quality of our posting and of our posters is way above the norm, we simply don't have enough people or volume to support a partitioned subforum. When and if we reach that point it's going to be bittersweet, because in many ways it will represent the end of the "golden age" for the subforum, even as it heralds the ascension of LoL itself. All good things must come to an end. Usher in a new age. Who says it'll be bad? Change is not always bad... That's why it's bittersweet. We'll lose some things in exchange for others, but we'll always look back on what we lost fondly even if what we gained is greater.
Growing pains. Cherish the memories, for they were good.
But onwards to bigger and better things, TL LoL.
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On February 02 2013 03:35 Seuss wrote:Show nested quote +On February 02 2013 03:06 Slayer91 wrote:On February 02 2013 02:45 Seuss wrote:On February 02 2013 02:16 Slayer91 wrote:On February 01 2013 10:26 Seuss wrote:On February 01 2013 10:14 NeoIllusions wrote:
I don't get the complaints about Seekers. LiNk thinks that item is going to be popular as fk and I concur. It's a matter of principle, specifically, "Perfection is achieved not when there is nothing left to add, but when there is nothing left to take away.” – Antoine de Saint-Exupery That quote is kinda wrong though. I guess it's like "well if you have a blade that's half as long as you need it to be and has no hilt it's a perfect half sized blade with no hilt" while "a blade with a hilt that needs sharpening needs something to be taken away". In mathematical terms he's saying Perfection isn't inf(upper bound) but is sup(lower bound) infimum of an upper bound is the lowest possible value of the upper bound which in 1-D terms basically means nothing left to ad supreme of a lower bound is his highest possible value of a lower bound still in the function again in 1-D terms nothing left to take away. In mathematics for a function to be integratable it must satisfy both of these conditions. And from my viewpoint it's the same as perfection. A perfect blade has just enough of something, not too much of not too little. There's a point in that quote and its eloquent but it's incomplete. Ironically the quote is perfect if you take the assumption that what he says in the quote is true. LOL, fucking french fag hoisted by his own petards gg l2math bro But he's not talking about math. o.O The fuller version of the quote is: "A designer knows he has achieved perfection not when there is nothing left to add, but when there is nothing left to take away." Antoine de Saint-Exupéry was poet, aviator, and author of The Little Prince, not a mathematician. He's not talking about bounds, integration, and functions, he's talking about writing, verse, and design. I'm imagining if I'd quoted "a date that will live in infamy" you'd have said, "lolwut dates don't live". you just repeated the quote again as if they proves your post it doesnt matter what we're talking about a story isn't perfect if there's nothing to take away, a blank page has nothing to take away. A perfect story without an ending has nothing to take away but you just cut off an important piece. It's an important quote because it puts focus on keeping things trim to preserve clarity of vision however that's not everything. It's just "less is more" is usually a good guideline because people in design and writing tend to overclutter things when it's not needed. Conciseness is good but that quote shouldn't be taken out of context as I explained in my above post. I'm really confused what context you think the quote is being taken out of. Here's the full context of the original quote: Show nested quote +Sometime in the 1940's Antoine de Saint-Exupéry wrote:
And now, having spoken of the men born of the pilot's craft, I shall say something about the tool with which they work-the air-plane. Have you looked at a modern airplane? Have you followed from year to year the evolution of its lines? Have you ever thought, not only about the airplane but about whatever man builds, that all of man's industrial efforts, all his computations and calculations, all the nights spent over working draughts and blueprints, invariably culminate in the production of a thing whose sole and guiding principle is the ultimate principle of simplicity?
It is as if there were a natural law which ordained that to achieve this end, to refine the curve of a piece of furniture, or a ship's keel, or the fuselage of an airplane, until gradually it partakes of the elementary purity of the curve of 'a human breast or shoulder, there must be the experimentation of several generations of craftsmen. In anything at all, perfection is finally attained not when there is no longer anything to add, but when there is no longer anything to take away, when a body has been stripped down to its nakedness. The quote is quite clearly describing a principle of design where all that is extraneous is removed and all that which is necessary is kept, nothing more or less. This is the principle which I'm applying when I say that Seeker's Armguard is an extraneous addition to LoL's design. I feel like you're misunderstanding the quote, and my point, the same way people commonly misunderstand Occam's Razor.
The first airplanes are pretty shitty compared to modern airplanes. Taking a finished product and removing anything unnecessary over and over again is also together with adding new functionality. There is a principle of simplicity where extra shit we don't need = extra shit we don't need, but new shit = extra functionality. I'm not saying the principle is wrong but that it's incomplete. You shouldn't ALWAYS try to hone things down, you want to add things as well. Same with league items, adding items is good as long as they have their place.
"The extraneous removed and the necessary is kept" is what I was mentioning in my first post. The quote only handles removing things. But adding things which are deemed necessary is never mentioned there. You don't start with everything you need and more and get rid of the rest. Evolution started from cells and built up, unnecessary things were weeded out by hte principle of survival of the fittest.
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yesterday i realized that miss fortune means misfortune
i am so dumb
this college degree is worthless
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On February 02 2013 02:09 onlywonderboy wrote:Show nested quote +On February 02 2013 02:03 sob3k wrote:How is pick order decided? On February 02 2013 02:01 AsmodeusXI wrote:
If you could be in a division with the name of your choice, what would it be?
Mine would be either Trundle's Trolls or Hecarim's Ponies. xXx69DarkSkullSniper420's Same as before, first pick is the highest Elo (even though it's in the background), the other four are randomly ordered.
I'm pretty sure that the pick order is decided by Elo for all five players, not just the FP. I always got last pick when I duo'd with a friend of mine who's 200 Elo above me, and he always for FP.
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I am really enjoying hearing people's reactions to division names, please keep posting ^^
On February 02 2013 03:58 kainzero wrote:
yesterday i realized that miss fortune means misfortune
i am so dumb
this college degree is worthless
XD
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On February 02 2013 03:58 kainzero wrote:
yesterday i realized that miss fortune means misfortune
i am so dumb
this college degree is worthless
12 weeks from my bachelors and I feel the exact same.
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What about SC2's division names? Those were just like lore place names + greek letter
Tarsonis Epsilon or some shit like that
Although you definitely have a lot less potential for silly things to pop up with that scheme
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United States15536 Posts
I'm so bad, I'm just waiting to logon to find out I was placed in Urgot's Silver Rectum or something.
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On February 02 2013 04:00 Atokad wrote:Show nested quote +On February 02 2013 03:58 kainzero wrote:
yesterday i realized that miss fortune means misfortune
i am so dumb
this college degree is worthless 12 weeks from my bachelors and I feel the exact same.
Welcome to the club, we've got jackets. The prospect of real life looming Ina few months is incredibly daunting to me.
On topic: I'm really wondering why Riot has gone this route with the ranking system. It's the same disappointment I felt as I watched Blizzard made WoW more noob friendly.
I haven't heard a single positive thing about this form of ranking (which I'm sure is just confirmation bias from avoiding LoL GD and r/lol like the plague).
I get that people hate feeling like they're stuck in "elo hell", but this doesn't really solve anything, and makes it more of a pain in the ass for people who want to feel competitive. If you polish a turd, it's still a turd...
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On February 02 2013 03:58 Slayer91 wrote:Show nested quote +On February 02 2013 03:35 Seuss wrote:On February 02 2013 03:06 Slayer91 wrote:On February 02 2013 02:45 Seuss wrote:On February 02 2013 02:16 Slayer91 wrote:On February 01 2013 10:26 Seuss wrote:On February 01 2013 10:14 NeoIllusions wrote:
I don't get the complaints about Seekers. LiNk thinks that item is going to be popular as fk and I concur. It's a matter of principle, specifically, "Perfection is achieved not when there is nothing left to add, but when there is nothing left to take away.” – Antoine de Saint-Exupery That quote is kinda wrong though. I guess it's like "well if you have a blade that's half as long as you need it to be and has no hilt it's a perfect half sized blade with no hilt" while "a blade with a hilt that needs sharpening needs something to be taken away". In mathematical terms he's saying Perfection isn't inf(upper bound) but is sup(lower bound) infimum of an upper bound is the lowest possible value of the upper bound which in 1-D terms basically means nothing left to ad supreme of a lower bound is his highest possible value of a lower bound still in the function again in 1-D terms nothing left to take away. In mathematics for a function to be integratable it must satisfy both of these conditions. And from my viewpoint it's the same as perfection. A perfect blade has just enough of something, not too much of not too little. There's a point in that quote and its eloquent but it's incomplete. Ironically the quote is perfect if you take the assumption that what he says in the quote is true. LOL, fucking french fag hoisted by his own petards gg l2math bro But he's not talking about math. o.O The fuller version of the quote is: "A designer knows he has achieved perfection not when there is nothing left to add, but when there is nothing left to take away." Antoine de Saint-Exupéry was poet, aviator, and author of The Little Prince, not a mathematician. He's not talking about bounds, integration, and functions, he's talking about writing, verse, and design. I'm imagining if I'd quoted "a date that will live in infamy" you'd have said, "lolwut dates don't live". you just repeated the quote again as if they proves your post it doesnt matter what we're talking about a story isn't perfect if there's nothing to take away, a blank page has nothing to take away. A perfect story without an ending has nothing to take away but you just cut off an important piece. It's an important quote because it puts focus on keeping things trim to preserve clarity of vision however that's not everything. It's just "less is more" is usually a good guideline because people in design and writing tend to overclutter things when it's not needed. Conciseness is good but that quote shouldn't be taken out of context as I explained in my above post. I'm really confused what context you think the quote is being taken out of. Here's the full context of the original quote: Sometime in the 1940's Antoine de Saint-Exupéry wrote:
And now, having spoken of the men born of the pilot's craft, I shall say something about the tool with which they work-the air-plane. Have you looked at a modern airplane? Have you followed from year to year the evolution of its lines? Have you ever thought, not only about the airplane but about whatever man builds, that all of man's industrial efforts, all his computations and calculations, all the nights spent over working draughts and blueprints, invariably culminate in the production of a thing whose sole and guiding principle is the ultimate principle of simplicity?
It is as if there were a natural law which ordained that to achieve this end, to refine the curve of a piece of furniture, or a ship's keel, or the fuselage of an airplane, until gradually it partakes of the elementary purity of the curve of 'a human breast or shoulder, there must be the experimentation of several generations of craftsmen. In anything at all, perfection is finally attained not when there is no longer anything to add, but when there is no longer anything to take away, when a body has been stripped down to its nakedness. The quote is quite clearly describing a principle of design where all that is extraneous is removed and all that which is necessary is kept, nothing more or less. This is the principle which I'm applying when I say that Seeker's Armguard is an extraneous addition to LoL's design. I feel like you're misunderstanding the quote, and my point, the same way people commonly misunderstand Occam's Razor. The first airplanes are pretty shitty compared to modern airplanes. Taking a finished product and removing anything unnecessary over and over again is also together with adding new functionality. There is a principle of simplicity where extra shit we don't need = extra shit we don't need, but new shit = extra functionality. I'm not saying the principle is wrong but that it's incomplete. You shouldn't ALWAYS try to hone things down, you want to add things as well. Same with league items, adding items is good as long as they have their place.
I think the issue you have with the idea of minimalism displayed in the quote is that it has the potential to stifle forward progress and inevitably reduce variety, which in turn can stifle creativity. I think a basic assumption is taken on the part Mr. de Saint-Exupéry in that he assumes that the genesis of all of the new ideas has already occurred, and that only by removing the unnecessary, given there is a plethora of ideas/designs already in existence, can you achieve perfection. I suspect your issue is the non-inclusion of this assumption.
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On February 02 2013 01:28 jcarlsoniv wrote:Show nested quote +On February 02 2013 01:22 arb wrote:On February 02 2013 01:06 Requizen wrote:On February 02 2013 01:00 Gahlo wrote:On February 01 2013 23:51 Requizen wrote:On February 01 2013 23:39 Crownlol wrote:On February 01 2013 23:25 WaveofShadow wrote:
Well in any case it's very uplifting to know that despite TL's general management ignoring us and the general populace's lack of knowledge of us, we are still apparently a central hub for LoL E-Sports and information. It's always bugged me that LoL is a redheaded stepchild on this site, yet looking at the viewership on Twitch it is by FAR the most-watched esport right now. Twitch viewership last night (I watch before bed); SC2 5k, DotA 5k, WoW 11k (wat), LoL 75k. Apparently WoW is really picking up steam with this expansion. Kind of makes me want to play agai-NO REQ NO. BAD REQ. DRUGS ARE BAD. Well, my guild is looking for healers...XD I was dual specced Ret/Prot. I healed for part of BoT and BWD in early Cata, wasn't crazy about it. Also stop. I refuse to buy MoP and resub. *whimper* WoW lost its steam for me after they killed all my favorite bosses.. i.e Nef Cho'Gall and Rag. Nothing will compare to Vanilla WoW for me. Being a super weird kid in high school, it was amazing to retreat into this crazy world that I knew nothing about. Finding people around the world, jumping into vent before logging in, knowing I'd have people to talk to/hang out with. I made the poor decision of leveling a priest from 1-60 as holy spec. Good lord was it slow going, but I loved healing. 40 man raids were amazing. Staying up til 3 or 4 am, knowing I'd be fucked for school in the morning but not caring. Getting yelled at by my parents for still being awake. My guild never progressed very far in content, but good lord I loved hanging out with those guys. The only thing I really liked after vanilla was Kharazan, and that was just because it was such a clever dungeon. I certainly miss that feeling of discovery and novelty, but I know I can never go back. I tried Cataclysm for a little bit and hated it. They torched the whole server community feel and tight-knit play that I loved back in the day.
My gold years were Burning Crusade. I was in a guild that felt like a family for about 2 years. I knew everyone, could depend on them, and had many meaningful conversations with people easily twice my age. It was a time of internet bonding i doubt i'll ever see again. What WoW is now doesn't even come close to a shadow of what it once was.
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