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United States23745 Posts
Alright, agreed names are dumb, but it really has no bearing on anything.
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On February 01 2013 09:28 NeoIllusions wrote:
Fixed a bug where chat messages from Anivia would display the incorrect champion name while she was in egg form.
I thought that was a clever attention to detail, but aparently is just a bug. -_- Riot...
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On February 02 2013 03:12 xes wrote:Guys no need to start a Riot, the ranked stats section is still there with winrates and KDA ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/sHNdVczl.jpg)
What?
When I looked I couldn't see any of that....
Maybe you can only see winrates of people you're in the same Division as....?
Edit: Nvm, these are your winrates..I figured they weren't going to obscure those (at least I hoped).
Just sucks you can't see anyone else's.
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On February 02 2013 03:16 WaveofShadow wrote:Show nested quote +On February 02 2013 03:12 xes wrote:Guys no need to start a Riot, the ranked stats section is still there with winrates and KDA What? When I looked I couldn't see any of that.... Maybe you can only see winrates of people you're in the same Division as....? Edit: Nvm, these are your winrates..I figured they weren't going to obscure those (at least I hoped). Just sucks you can't see anyone else's.
Ah yea, you can only see total games and KDA for other players' stats now
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On February 02 2013 02:42 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:
i just realized they still dont have a sheep champion wtf
I think cuz it would be a baaad idea.
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On February 02 2013 03:19 arb wrote:Show nested quote +On February 02 2013 02:42 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:
i just realized they still dont have a sheep champion wtf I think cuz it would be a baaad idea.
bad jokes will only makes you sheepish.
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United States47024 Posts
On February 02 2013 01:53 BlueSpace wrote:
I'm a sad panda now... The elo rating was so simple and straightforward. I don't think that the new system is worse but it's just insanely convoluted. The video is six minutes long and you actually need that together with a bunch of graphs to explainit. Also why not give players the choice to see their elo? I feel babied by Riot. I can handle the hard truth about how much I suck, mommy.
The thing is, there are a lot of people who "want" the truth and then totally misinterpret it.
Also, I hope there's a league called Fortune's Favored Fools.
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On February 02 2013 02:47 Seuss wrote:![[image loading]](http://dilbert.com/dyn/str_strip/000000000/00000000/0000000/000000/20000/3000/800/23817/23817.strip.gif)
hehe i still watch dilbert from time to time, show's pretty genius. can't wait to go home and try (hate?) the new ladder system
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FYI...
The next person that says "shot-caller" will be shot. By Caller.
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United States15536 Posts
On February 02 2013 03:25 Caller wrote:
FYI...
The next person that says "shot-caller" will be shot. By Caller.
The shot-caller shot Caller's sharp-colored shock collar.
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Czech Republic11293 Posts
On February 02 2013 03:06 Slayer91 wrote:Show nested quote +On February 02 2013 02:45 Seuss wrote:On February 02 2013 02:16 Slayer91 wrote:On February 01 2013 10:26 Seuss wrote:On February 01 2013 10:14 NeoIllusions wrote:
I don't get the complaints about Seekers. LiNk thinks that item is going to be popular as fk and I concur. It's a matter of principle, specifically, "Perfection is achieved not when there is nothing left to add, but when there is nothing left to take away.” – Antoine de Saint-Exupery That quote is kinda wrong though. I guess it's like "well if you have a blade that's half as long as you need it to be and has no hilt it's a perfect half sized blade with no hilt" while "a blade with a hilt that needs sharpening needs something to be taken away". In mathematical terms he's saying Perfection isn't inf(upper bound) but is sup(lower bound) infimum of an upper bound is the lowest possible value of the upper bound which in 1-D terms basically means nothing left to ad supreme of a lower bound is his highest possible value of a lower bound still in the function again in 1-D terms nothing left to take away. In mathematics for a function to be integratable it must satisfy both of these conditions. And from my viewpoint it's the same as perfection. A perfect blade has just enough of something, not too much of not too little. There's a point in that quote and its eloquent but it's incomplete. Ironically the quote is perfect if you take the assumption that what he says in the quote is true. LOL, fucking french fag hoisted by his own petards gg l2math bro But he's not talking about math. o.O The fuller version of the quote is: "A designer knows he has achieved perfection not when there is nothing left to add, but when there is nothing left to take away." Antoine de Saint-Exupéry was poet, aviator, and author of The Little Prince, not a mathematician. He's not talking about bounds, integration, and functions, he's talking about writing, verse, and design. I'm imagining if I'd quoted "a date that will live in infamy" you'd have said, "lolwut dates don't live". you just repeated the quote again as if they proves your post it doesnt matter what we're talking about a story isn't perfect if there's nothing to take away, a blank page has nothing to take away. A perfect story without an ending has nothing to take away but you just cut off an important piece. It's an important quote because it puts focus on keeping things trim to preserve clarity of vision however that's not everything. It's just "less is more" is usually a good guideline because people in design and writing tend to overclutter things when it's not needed. Conciseness is good but that quote shouldn't be taken out of context as I explained in my above post.
We know the quote is true, it is said so in Civilization4, technology Engeneering.
I guess the idea is that a story without an ending isn't perfect, so you are supposed to follow this line of reasoning: story not perfect -> nothing left to take away -> have to add something. The idea is that taking away something precedes adding something.
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On February 02 2013 03:30 Scip wrote:
We know the quote is true, it is said so in Civilization4, technology Engeneering.
i think riot should hire leonard nimoy to replace the announcer.
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United States47024 Posts
On February 02 2013 03:25 Caller wrote:
FYI...
The next person that says "shot-caller" will be shot. By Caller.
I don't know why the term "captain" is so hard for people to use, seeing as that's exactly what a team captain does.
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On February 02 2013 03:06 Slayer91 wrote:Show nested quote +On February 02 2013 02:45 Seuss wrote:On February 02 2013 02:16 Slayer91 wrote:On February 01 2013 10:26 Seuss wrote:On February 01 2013 10:14 NeoIllusions wrote:
I don't get the complaints about Seekers. LiNk thinks that item is going to be popular as fk and I concur. It's a matter of principle, specifically, "Perfection is achieved not when there is nothing left to add, but when there is nothing left to take away.” – Antoine de Saint-Exupery That quote is kinda wrong though. I guess it's like "well if you have a blade that's half as long as you need it to be and has no hilt it's a perfect half sized blade with no hilt" while "a blade with a hilt that needs sharpening needs something to be taken away". In mathematical terms he's saying Perfection isn't inf(upper bound) but is sup(lower bound) infimum of an upper bound is the lowest possible value of the upper bound which in 1-D terms basically means nothing left to ad supreme of a lower bound is his highest possible value of a lower bound still in the function again in 1-D terms nothing left to take away. In mathematics for a function to be integratable it must satisfy both of these conditions. And from my viewpoint it's the same as perfection. A perfect blade has just enough of something, not too much of not too little. There's a point in that quote and its eloquent but it's incomplete. Ironically the quote is perfect if you take the assumption that what he says in the quote is true. LOL, fucking french fag hoisted by his own petards gg l2math bro But he's not talking about math. o.O The fuller version of the quote is: "A designer knows he has achieved perfection not when there is nothing left to add, but when there is nothing left to take away." Antoine de Saint-Exupéry was poet, aviator, and author of The Little Prince, not a mathematician. He's not talking about bounds, integration, and functions, he's talking about writing, verse, and design. I'm imagining if I'd quoted "a date that will live in infamy" you'd have said, "lolwut dates don't live". you just repeated the quote again as if they proves your post it doesnt matter what we're talking about a story isn't perfect if there's nothing to take away, a blank page has nothing to take away. A perfect story without an ending has nothing to take away but you just cut off an important piece. It's an important quote because it puts focus on keeping things trim to preserve clarity of vision however that's not everything. It's just "less is more" is usually a good guideline because people in design and writing tend to overclutter things when it's not needed. Conciseness is good but that quote shouldn't be taken out of context as I explained in my above post.
I'm really confused what context you think the quote is being taken out of. Here's the full context of the original quote:
Sometime in the 1940's Antoine de Saint-Exupéry wrote:
And now, having spoken of the men born of the pilot's craft, I shall say something about the tool with which they work-the air-plane. Have you looked at a modern airplane? Have you followed from year to year the evolution of its lines? Have you ever thought, not only about the airplane but about whatever man builds, that all of man's industrial efforts, all his computations and calculations, all the nights spent over working draughts and blueprints, invariably culminate in the production of a thing whose sole and guiding principle is the ultimate principle of simplicity?
It is as if there were a natural law which ordained that to achieve this end, to refine the curve of a piece of furniture, or a ship's keel, or the fuselage of an airplane, until gradually it partakes of the elementary purity of the curve of 'a human breast or shoulder, there must be the experimentation of several generations of craftsmen. In anything at all, perfection is finally attained not when there is no longer anything to add, but when there is no longer anything to take away, when a body has been stripped down to its nakedness.
The quote is quite clearly describing a principle of design where all that is extraneous is removed and all that which is necessary is kept, nothing more or less. This is the principle which I'm applying when I say that Seeker's Armguard is an extraneous addition to LoL's design.
I feel like you're misunderstanding the quote, and my point, the same way people commonly misunderstand Occam's Razor.
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United States37500 Posts
On February 02 2013 00:48 Requizen wrote:Show nested quote +On February 02 2013 00:45 Crownlol wrote:On February 02 2013 00:17 Djagulingu wrote:On February 02 2013 00:07 BlueSpace wrote:On February 01 2013 23:39 Crownlol wrote:On February 01 2013 23:25 WaveofShadow wrote:
Well in any case it's very uplifting to know that despite TL's general management ignoring us and the general populace's lack of knowledge of us, we are still apparently a central hub for LoL E-Sports and information. It's always bugged me that LoL is a redheaded stepchild on this site, yet looking at the viewership on Twitch it is by FAR the most-watched esport right now. Twitch viewership last night (I watch before bed); SC2 5k, DotA 5k, WoW 11k (wat), LoL 75k. I love being a redheaded stepchild, if that means I can discuss in an enviroment with a relative low number of trolls and people that are generally polite to each other. Seriously... why are people so obsessed about increasing the size of this place. I don't care about how many people regularly discuss here, I only care about the quality of the discussion. I'm sure that some people which put so much effort into this sub-forum would like to have a wider recognition and I totally think they deserve it, but selfish-me wants this place to remain small. I don't love being a redheaded stepchild but LoL forums feel like TL before SC2 trolls, so I'll take that  . It would be nice if literally all LoL discussion wasn't in a single thread that just gets cleared every few weeks. Subforums broken down by role, for example, would be amazing. I'm not sure there's enough enough active TL LoL members to warrant its own subforum. We have separate role and champion threads, and while they see some flurries of activities, I don't think it is enough to justify entire General and Strategy categories like the SC2 and DotA2 subforums have.
It's active enough.
On February 02 2013 01:12 Seuss wrote:Show nested quote +On February 02 2013 00:59 AsmodeusXI wrote:On February 02 2013 00:56 Crownlol wrote:On February 02 2013 00:48 Requizen wrote:On February 02 2013 00:45 Crownlol wrote:On February 02 2013 00:17 Djagulingu wrote:On February 02 2013 00:07 BlueSpace wrote:On February 01 2013 23:39 Crownlol wrote:On February 01 2013 23:25 WaveofShadow wrote:
Well in any case it's very uplifting to know that despite TL's general management ignoring us and the general populace's lack of knowledge of us, we are still apparently a central hub for LoL E-Sports and information. It's always bugged me that LoL is a redheaded stepchild on this site, yet looking at the viewership on Twitch it is by FAR the most-watched esport right now. Twitch viewership last night (I watch before bed); SC2 5k, DotA 5k, WoW 11k (wat), LoL 75k. I love being a redheaded stepchild, if that means I can discuss in an enviroment with a relative low number of trolls and people that are generally polite to each other. Seriously... why are people so obsessed about increasing the size of this place. I don't care about how many people regularly discuss here, I only care about the quality of the discussion. I'm sure that some people which put so much effort into this sub-forum would like to have a wider recognition and I totally think they deserve it, but selfish-me wants this place to remain small. I don't love being a redheaded stepchild but LoL forums feel like TL before SC2 trolls, so I'll take that . It would be nice if literally all LoL discussion wasn't in a single thread that just gets cleared every few weeks. Subforums broken down by role, for example, would be amazing. I'm not sure there's enough enough active TL LoL members to warrant its own subforum. We have separate role and champion threads, and while they see some flurries of activities, I don't think it is enough to justify entire General and Strategy categories like the SC2 and DotA2 subforums have. The amount of active TL LoLers could be related to the quality of LoL support- I have no evidence for this, but it's possible. For example, I NEVER go to /r/Starcraft, but I often have to use /r/leagueoflegends simply because the LoL support isn't great. Hey now, the quality of the LoL content on TL is pretty damn high... it's just there's only so much coverage we can do as a small staff for an unofficial subforum. We could always use more volunteers! TL LoL subforum, where all the posters are strong, all the mods are good-looking, and all the newbies are above average. More seriously, we are still a small, tight-knit community. While the quality of our posting and of our posters is way above the norm, we simply don't have enough people or volume to support a partitioned subforum. When and if we reach that point it's going to be bittersweet, because in many ways it will represent the end of the "golden age" for the subforum, even as it heralds the ascension of LoL itself.
All good things must come to an end. Usher in a new age. Who says it'll be bad? Change is not always bad...
On February 02 2013 01:31 AsmodeusXI wrote:Show nested quote +On February 02 2013 01:26 Scip wrote:On February 02 2013 00:59 AsmodeusXI wrote:On February 02 2013 00:56 Crownlol wrote:On February 02 2013 00:48 Requizen wrote:On February 02 2013 00:45 Crownlol wrote:On February 02 2013 00:17 Djagulingu wrote:On February 02 2013 00:07 BlueSpace wrote:On February 01 2013 23:39 Crownlol wrote:On February 01 2013 23:25 WaveofShadow wrote:
Well in any case it's very uplifting to know that despite TL's general management ignoring us and the general populace's lack of knowledge of us, we are still apparently a central hub for LoL E-Sports and information. It's always bugged me that LoL is a redheaded stepchild on this site, yet looking at the viewership on Twitch it is by FAR the most-watched esport right now. Twitch viewership last night (I watch before bed); SC2 5k, DotA 5k, WoW 11k (wat), LoL 75k. I love being a redheaded stepchild, if that means I can discuss in an enviroment with a relative low number of trolls and people that are generally polite to each other. Seriously... why are people so obsessed about increasing the size of this place. I don't care about how many people regularly discuss here, I only care about the quality of the discussion. I'm sure that some people which put so much effort into this sub-forum would like to have a wider recognition and I totally think they deserve it, but selfish-me wants this place to remain small. I don't love being a redheaded stepchild but LoL forums feel like TL before SC2 trolls, so I'll take that . It would be nice if literally all LoL discussion wasn't in a single thread that just gets cleared every few weeks. Subforums broken down by role, for example, would be amazing. I'm not sure there's enough enough active TL LoL members to warrant its own subforum. We have separate role and champion threads, and while they see some flurries of activities, I don't think it is enough to justify entire General and Strategy categories like the SC2 and DotA2 subforums have. The amount of active TL LoLers could be related to the quality of LoL support- I have no evidence for this, but it's possible. For example, I NEVER go to /r/Starcraft, but I often have to use /r/leagueoflegends simply because the LoL support isn't great. Hey now, the quality of the LoL content on TL is pretty damn high... it's just there's only so much coverage we can do as a small staff for an unofficial subforum. We could always use more volunteers! I volunteer to do things that dont require me to write in a pretty manner. I can analyze things I guess. Also anything else that doesn't require pretty writing. I think some of people trying to volunteer/help may get lost in GD, so here's what I'll say about it. If you think that you have something valuable you can and want to give to the TL LoL subforum, PM Neo saying that you're willing and able to help. I can't guarantee that you'll be taken on or that you'll have the skills the staff needs atm, but we DO like having more people. It IS work, but I just did what I described and now I'm doing... stuff... for this subforum. And it's fun and it's helpful. It's also possible that Neo or MB will contradict me on this, in which case SRY.
No contradiction here. TL LoL can always use more help. Just be flexible and clearly state what you're interested in helping with.
I want to comment that we accomplish what we do with less than half of TL Dota2's staff. Imagine if we had more people! :O :O
On February 02 2013 01:34 Seuss wrote:Show nested quote +On February 02 2013 01:17 TheYango wrote:On February 02 2013 01:16 Abenson wrote:On February 02 2013 00:07 BlueSpace wrote:On February 01 2013 23:39 Crownlol wrote:On February 01 2013 23:25 WaveofShadow wrote:
Well in any case it's very uplifting to know that despite TL's general management ignoring us and the general populace's lack of knowledge of us, we are still apparently a central hub for LoL E-Sports and information. It's always bugged me that LoL is a redheaded stepchild on this site, yet looking at the viewership on Twitch it is by FAR the most-watched esport right now. Twitch viewership last night (I watch before bed); SC2 5k, DotA 5k, WoW 11k (wat), LoL 75k. I love being a redheaded stepchild, if that means I can discuss in an enviroment with a relative low number of trolls and people that are generally polite to each other. Seriously... why are people so obsessed about increasing the size of this place. I don't care about how many people regularly discuss here, I only care about the quality of the discussion. I'm sure that some people which put so much effort into this sub-forum would like to have a wider recognition and I totally think they deserve it, but selfish-me wants this place to remain small. Well TL mods are always going to keep this place's discussion high-quality, and so it's safe to assume that even with more people this place will remain relatively the same in terms of quality discussion. SC2 and DotA 2 subforums suggest otherwise. Not all shitposting is banworthy. If it was, this forum would be down another dozen or so recognizable names. Forum quality tends to decrease with size because bad/shit-posters act as echo chambers. In a small forum there aren't enough of them to really cause many problems, but as a forum grows the echo effect increases. Eventually you reach critical mass and the good posts get overwhelmed in a broadcast storm of stupid. It takes extremely draconian measures and an incredibly proactive mod staff (SEE: Elitist Jerks) to maintain the quality of discussion in a larger forum. We're unlikely to be allowed to take things that far here, so when/if the forum expands dramatically you can expect a lot less "Seuss and TheYango discuss the cost effectiveness of Aegis versus Locket in a myriad of teamfight scenarios" and more "XxXTEEMOTAUNTXxX asks what the timer for Baron is for the 43,135,834th time".
Hear, hear. A little bit of me feels hurt that so many of you think our subforum(s) would automatically go down the shitter if we expanded or get an influx of new users. I daresay TL LoL is run on a tighter leash than any other area of TeamLiquid.
Not all shitposting is ban worthy, true. But I ensure that shitposting does not last for long. There's a difference.
On February 02 2013 02:42 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:
i just realized they still dont have a sheep champion wtf
holy shit, we must rectify this asap.
cheep cheep
On February 02 2013 03:22 TheYango wrote:Show nested quote +On February 02 2013 01:53 BlueSpace wrote:
I'm a sad panda now... The elo rating was so simple and straightforward. I don't think that the new system is worse but it's just insanely convoluted. The video is six minutes long and you actually need that together with a bunch of graphs to explainit. Also why not give players the choice to see their elo? I feel babied by Riot. I can handle the hard truth about how much I suck, mommy. The thing is, there are a lot of people who "want" the truth and then totally misinterpret it. Also, I hope there's a league called Fortune's Favored Fools.
You speak my mind.
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On February 02 2013 03:29 AsmodeusXI wrote:Show nested quote +On February 02 2013 03:25 Caller wrote:
FYI...
The next person that says "shot-caller" will be shot. By Caller. The shot-caller shot Caller's sharp-colored shock collar.
i will hunt you down and shoot you if it is the last thing i do
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Roffles
Pitcairn19291 Posts
So how lame are the division names? Has anyone compiled like a list?
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On February 02 2013 03:42 Roffles wrote:
So how lame are the division names? Has anyone compiled like a list?
Don't they just take a random champion, with a random noun off some other list, and smash them together? That's the only way I'd see them having a chance of having enough names to cover all the divisions (aka exploit combinatorics)
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I'm patching on NA, servers still "Unavailable" however.
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On February 02 2013 03:36 NeoIllusions wrote:Show nested quote +On February 02 2013 01:12 Seuss wrote:On February 02 2013 00:59 AsmodeusXI wrote:On February 02 2013 00:56 Crownlol wrote:On February 02 2013 00:48 Requizen wrote:On February 02 2013 00:45 Crownlol wrote:On February 02 2013 00:17 Djagulingu wrote:On February 02 2013 00:07 BlueSpace wrote:On February 01 2013 23:39 Crownlol wrote:On February 01 2013 23:25 WaveofShadow wrote:
Well in any case it's very uplifting to know that despite TL's general management ignoring us and the general populace's lack of knowledge of us, we are still apparently a central hub for LoL E-Sports and information. It's always bugged me that LoL is a redheaded stepchild on this site, yet looking at the viewership on Twitch it is by FAR the most-watched esport right now. Twitch viewership last night (I watch before bed); SC2 5k, DotA 5k, WoW 11k (wat), LoL 75k. I love being a redheaded stepchild, if that means I can discuss in an enviroment with a relative low number of trolls and people that are generally polite to each other. Seriously... why are people so obsessed about increasing the size of this place. I don't care about how many people regularly discuss here, I only care about the quality of the discussion. I'm sure that some people which put so much effort into this sub-forum would like to have a wider recognition and I totally think they deserve it, but selfish-me wants this place to remain small. I don't love being a redheaded stepchild but LoL forums feel like TL before SC2 trolls, so I'll take that . It would be nice if literally all LoL discussion wasn't in a single thread that just gets cleared every few weeks. Subforums broken down by role, for example, would be amazing. I'm not sure there's enough enough active TL LoL members to warrant its own subforum. We have separate role and champion threads, and while they see some flurries of activities, I don't think it is enough to justify entire General and Strategy categories like the SC2 and DotA2 subforums have. The amount of active TL LoLers could be related to the quality of LoL support- I have no evidence for this, but it's possible. For example, I NEVER go to /r/Starcraft, but I often have to use /r/leagueoflegends simply because the LoL support isn't great. Hey now, the quality of the LoL content on TL is pretty damn high... it's just there's only so much coverage we can do as a small staff for an unofficial subforum. We could always use more volunteers! TL LoL subforum, where all the posters are strong, all the mods are good-looking, and all the newbies are above average. More seriously, we are still a small, tight-knit community. While the quality of our posting and of our posters is way above the norm, we simply don't have enough people or volume to support a partitioned subforum. When and if we reach that point it's going to be bittersweet, because in many ways it will represent the end of the "golden age" for the subforum, even as it heralds the ascension of LoL itself. All good things must come to an end. Usher in a new age. Who says it'll be bad? Change is not always bad...
That's why it's bittersweet. We'll lose some things in exchange for others, but we'll always look back on what we lost fondly even if what we gained is greater.
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