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BlackPaladin
Profile Joined May 2010
United States9316 Posts
February 13 2013 04:39 GMT
#3561
LOL, in crs scrim nyjacky ults wave to clear it when taking enemy inhib. Gets kill/ace randomly. LOL best.
"Your full potential does not matter if you do not use all 100% of it."
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
February 13 2013 04:41 GMT
#3562
Nyjacky getting 20k+ viewers, I've never seen him spike past like 6k... Dat 3-0 victory doing wonders for stream #'s.
liftlift > tsm
koreasilver
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
9109 Posts
February 13 2013 04:44 GMT
#3563
You still need a LW at some point because the botrk passive does physical damage. LW is honestly irreplaceable even if the health stacking trend might not make it necessary for you to build it early. IE still makes your damage jump more than any other AD item and not building crit diminishes your dps way too much (IBG Ezreal, for example; IBG Ezreal works purely because of how his kit synergizes with the item incredibly well - and even then it does a less damage). If AD scaling isn't really much of a factor (Kog, for example) and the opposing team is stacking tons of health, it's really just better to build botrk instead of BT.
HazMat
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States17077 Posts
February 13 2013 04:45 GMT
#3564
On February 13 2013 13:41 wei2coolman wrote:
Nyjacky getting 20k+ viewers, I've never seen him spike past like 6k... Dat 3-0 victory doing wonders for stream #'s.

Or it's the switch to Twitch, lol.
I mean Elementz has 3k viewers, that's the real mystery. Maybe it'll motivate him to get past plat div 3.
www.youtube.com/user/ShakeDrizzle | League and SSBM content creator | Armada's Youtube Editor
ChaoSbringer
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Australia1382 Posts
February 13 2013 04:46 GMT
#3565
Wow

SC2 TLers are so damn petty/anti LoL.

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=398356

GOM announces they are moving their studio, with one line of the statement talking about covering other games. Thread degenerates at how its such a shame GOM is going to pick up LoL.

This just makes me boggle.
Eishi_Ki
Profile Joined April 2009
Korea (South)1667 Posts
February 13 2013 04:48 GMT
#3566
On February 13 2013 13:46 ChaoSbringer wrote:
Wow

SC2 TLers are so damn petty/anti LoL.

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=398356

GOM announces they are moving their studio, with one line of the statement talking about covering other games. Thread degenerates at how its such a shame GOM is going to pick up LoL.

This just makes me boggle.


Let's not rise to it. Just leave it as is; GOM are probably going to start broadcasting LoL, no need to try and convince people this is a good thing for esports. It is and that's the end of it
Louuster
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada2869 Posts
February 13 2013 04:49 GMT
#3567
They (crs) are also the only pros streaming at the moment with any kind of regularity as the usual big numbers (TSM) choose not to stream their scrims. Who else do you watch for some league, AP trynd only guy? Nicole?? yea...
Kim Taek Yong fighting~
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
February 13 2013 04:49 GMT
#3568
On February 13 2013 13:46 ChaoSbringer wrote:
Wow

SC2 TLers are so damn petty/anti LoL.

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=398356

GOM announces they are moving their studio, with one line of the statement talking about covering other games. Thread degenerates at how its such a shame GOM is going to pick up LoL.

This just makes me boggle.

This really needs to stop being brought up.
Isn't it one of the commandments or something?

Honestly from reading through that thread there are very few people even mentioning LoL, and of those who do, have of them are ok with it.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-13 04:51:59
February 13 2013 04:50 GMT
#3569
On February 13 2013 13:48 Eishi_Ki wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 13 2013 13:46 ChaoSbringer wrote:
Wow

SC2 TLers are so damn petty/anti LoL.

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=398356

GOM announces they are moving their studio, with one line of the statement talking about covering other games. Thread degenerates at how its such a shame GOM is going to pick up LoL.

This just makes me boggle.


Let's not rise to it. Just leave it as is; GOM are probably going to start broadcasting LoL, no need to try and convince people this is a good thing for esports. It is and that's the end of it

Pretty much, Most of the TL LoL community is just w.e about it at this point.
On February 13 2013 13:49 Louuster wrote:
They (crs) are also the only pros streaming at the moment with any kind of regularity as the usual big numbers (TSM) choose not to stream their scrims. Who else do you watch for some league, AP trynd only guy? Nicole?? yea...

Crs understanding that with gamse happening regulary, there's no point in hiding strategies. They focus more on execution than fancy shit. There's no counter to clean execution and skills.
liftlift > tsm
Eishi_Ki
Profile Joined April 2009
Korea (South)1667 Posts
February 13 2013 04:51 GMT
#3570
On February 13 2013 13:49 Louuster wrote:
They (crs) are also the only pros streaming at the moment with any kind of regularity as the usual big numbers (TSM) choose not to stream their scrims. Who else do you watch for some league, AP trynd only guy? Nicole?? yea...


AP Trynd guy is pretty funny though how often he forgets to ult
Two_DoWn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States13684 Posts
February 13 2013 04:55 GMT
#3571
On February 13 2013 13:46 ChaoSbringer wrote:
Wow

SC2 TLers are so damn petty/anti LoL.

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=398356

GOM announces they are moving their studio, with one line of the statement talking about covering other games. Thread degenerates at how its such a shame GOM is going to pick up LoL.

This just makes me boggle.

We used to it.

It helps that a LOT of us were from the BW days so anytime a SC2 rant against LoL being "too easy" or whatnot pops up we get to sit back and enjoy the delicious irony.
"What is the air speed velocity of an unladen courier?" "Dire or Radiant?"
koreasilver
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
9109 Posts
February 13 2013 04:56 GMT
#3572
Imagine taking anything that comes out of the SC2 forums seriously.
Phunkapotamus
Profile Joined April 2010
United States496 Posts
February 13 2013 05:09 GMT
#3573
On February 13 2013 11:38 Two_DoWn wrote:
Just a thought, but what other options could there be for ADCs itemization in s3 that would be close to the 3 dorans wriggles we saw in s2 as a way to increase effectiveness?

The liz elder item doesnt seem terrible. You lose the benefit to neutral monsters, but the AD is decent and regen is always good. Plus its super cheap.

What other options could there be?


Spirit of the Lizard Elder
Bilgewater Cutlass (even without active this is a good buy, but the vamp scepter piece is not efficient)
Brutalizer
Doran's



"Do a barrel roll"
Ketara
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States15065 Posts
February 13 2013 05:09 GMT
#3574
On February 13 2013 13:55 Two_DoWn wrote:
It helps that a LOT of us were from the BW days so anytime a SC2 rant against LoL being "too easy" or whatnot pops up we get to sit back and enjoy the delicious irony.


Oh my god, this is so funny.
http://www.liquidlegends.net/forum/lol-general/502075-patch-61-league-of-legends-general-discussion?page=25#498
obesechicken13
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States10467 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-13 05:22:28
February 13 2013 05:12 GMT
#3575
On February 13 2013 13:44 koreasilver wrote:
You still need a LW at some point because the botrk passive does physical damage. LW is honestly irreplaceable even if the health stacking trend might not make it necessary for you to build it early. IE still makes your damage jump more than any other AD item and not building crit diminishes your dps way too much (IBG Ezreal, for example; IBG Ezreal works purely because of how his kit synergizes with the item incredibly well - and even then it does a less damage). If AD scaling isn't really much of a factor (Kog, for example) and the opposing team is stacking tons of health, it's really just better to build botrk instead of BT.

I know Madreds BR doesn't have the slowing effect, but it did 4% max life whereas botrk does 4% current life in damage.
I think Madreds BR wins in terms of pure dps since it also had attack speed and it did magic damage. Even adding in armor penetration the old BR was better since it was magic damage and no one got much magic resist.

Madreds also costs more but if Botrk was a good item then BR was I think a bit underappreciated which is unfortunate. I actually think it's a decent item to get out of the jungle since it builds out of madreds and doesn't sacrifice a lot of combat stats just to let you clear the jungle.

Botrk has a really strong passive though. If you are going to win a trade, then Botrk's slow will add more potential damage than most other items since it'll let you stick to your target for longer. And if you ever need to trade evenly, then Botrk's active is a 200+hp heal and a 100+ damage nuke (after taking into account bruiser armor). There aren't many items in this game that can turn a close fight into a landslide victory. But the 300 damage difference on the active makes me confident that if two champions try to fight each other, and one has a BT, and the other has a Botrk, the one with the Botrk should win.

edit: I should try out elder lizard more though. Wikipedia added a new feature for calculating gold costs which a lot of people like to quote. Assuming that madreds' passive is worth 80 ad damage (for 2000 hp targets this is how much magic damage it did, but it does not give ad ratios) then you would have had an item with a 300*25/15 + 40*1550/45 + 80*1550/45 + 45*1050/45 gold value or 5683 gold.
I think in our modern age technology has evolved to become more addictive. The things that don't give us pleasure aren't used as much. Work was never meant to be fun, but doing it makes us happier in the long run.
HazMat
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States17077 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-13 05:20:57
February 13 2013 05:20 GMT
#3576
On February 13 2013 13:55 Two_DoWn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 13 2013 13:46 ChaoSbringer wrote:
Wow

SC2 TLers are so damn petty/anti LoL.

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=398356

GOM announces they are moving their studio, with one line of the statement talking about covering other games. Thread degenerates at how its such a shame GOM is going to pick up LoL.

This just makes me boggle.

We used to it.

It helps that a LOT of us were from the BW days so anytime a SC2 rant against LoL being "too easy" or whatnot pops up we get to sit back and enjoy the delicious irony.

ya........

That always seems to be ignored though. It's like how people that were bullied grow up to be bullies.
www.youtube.com/user/ShakeDrizzle | League and SSBM content creator | Armada's Youtube Editor
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
February 13 2013 05:20 GMT
#3577
Ehhhh, MR was super easy to itemize for back in S2, not uncommon for most people to have like 150 mr, easily, even for squishies. Also, MBR also didn't have an power curve, due to its huge cost. By the time you got it, MR was already purchased.
liftlift > tsm
RagequitBM
Profile Joined November 2011
Canada2270 Posts
February 13 2013 05:22 GMT
#3578
There was a study showing a second PD on Vayne and Kog was almost always better than a LW.

Also in season 2, resists were much more used than HP stacking like now. I rarely see armor in my games, just players with 5k - 6k health.
Twitch.tv/Ragequitbm for all the fans
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
February 13 2013 05:42 GMT
#3579
Thick skin, folks.

Good news for us though. OGN and GOM will have LoL in 2013. sup?
ModeratorFor the Glory that is TeamLiquid (-9 | 155) | Discord: NeoIllusions#1984
onlywonderboy
Profile Joined August 2012
United States23745 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-13 05:58:40
February 13 2013 05:57 GMT
#3580
On February 13 2013 14:42 NeoIllusions wrote:
Thick skin, folks.

Good news for us though. OGN and GOM will have LoL in 2013. sup?

Yeah, really gives me an OSL/MSL sorta vibe.

+ Show Spoiler +
Sorry Neo, couldn't resist.
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