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Phunkapotamus
Profile Joined April 2010
United States496 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-13 07:24:29
February 13 2013 07:22 GMT
#3601
On February 13 2013 16:02 Two_DoWn wrote:
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On February 13 2013 15:59 wei2coolman wrote:
On February 13 2013 15:57 Two_DoWn wrote:
So can anyone explain to me why BOTRK isnt a good item?

Every time I look at it it seems to be amazing, yet I never see anyone pick it up.

Like a bruta belt BOTRK would seemingly be an incredibly powerful coming out of top lane in the laning phase.

BOTRK is a good item... just sometimes a niche pick. I know quite a few people like it as a first pickup for Jax.

See thats what I dont get.

Given league of warmogs, shouldnt it be a must grab?


All about attack speed. If you have a decent atkdspd steroid then it's great. Otherwise, it's more of a niche pick.

On February 13 2013 15:48 Chexx wrote:
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On February 13 2013 15:46 GTR wrote:
http://op.gg/progamer/

Well, there goes watching Twitch.

you need to click 관전하기 if you would like to spectate. Download the Bat and run it.


"Download the bat and run it" Well that's something I would never expect to be suggested.
"Do a barrel roll"
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
February 13 2013 07:26 GMT
#3602
On February 13 2013 16:02 Two_DoWn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 13 2013 15:59 wei2coolman wrote:
On February 13 2013 15:57 Two_DoWn wrote:
So can anyone explain to me why BOTRK isnt a good item?

Every time I look at it it seems to be amazing, yet I never see anyone pick it up.

Like a bruta belt BOTRK would seemingly be an incredibly powerful coming out of top lane in the laning phase.

BOTRK is a good item... just sometimes a niche pick. I know quite a few people like it as a first pickup for Jax.

See thats what I dont get.

Given league of warmogs, shouldnt it be a must grab?

As a single damage item, it's lack of attack speed hurts it (Bloodrazor was better in this regard) so it doesn't compete with Triforce. As part of a 2+ damage item combination, the fact that the proc can't crit hurts its overall usefulness.
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LaNague
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Germany9118 Posts
February 13 2013 07:27 GMT
#3603
it works and its harmless. Its just a bat, you can even look what commands it executes.
OutlaW-
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Czech Republic5053 Posts
February 13 2013 07:46 GMT
#3604
I forgot, and it would be absolutely wonderful if somebody here remembered.. What was Flame's Nidalee build?
Delete your post underage b&. You're incestuous for you're onee-chan so you're clearly not a bad guy, but others might not agree
LaNague
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Germany9118 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-13 07:53:14
February 13 2013 07:50 GMT
#3605
ok so why is dyrus sitting in winter outdoor clothes in a computer store or something and streaming league games :D
GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51706 Posts
February 13 2013 07:53 GMT
#3606
On February 13 2013 16:50 LaNague wrote:
ok so why is dyrus sitting in winter clothes in a computer store or something and streaming league games :D


It's TSM's LAN room.
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OutlaW-
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Czech Republic5053 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-13 08:00:04
February 13 2013 07:53 GMT
#3607
On February 13 2013 16:50 LaNague wrote:
ok so why is dyrus sitting in winter clothes in a computer store or something and streaming league games :D

It's not a computer store, it's their scrim room with 10 computers.

On February 13 2013 16:53 GTR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 13 2013 16:50 LaNague wrote:
ok so why is dyrus sitting in winter clothes in a computer store or something and streaming league games :D


It's TSM's LAN room.

Delete your post underage b&. You're incestuous for you're onee-chan so you're clearly not a bad guy, but others might not agree
HazMat
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States17077 Posts
February 13 2013 08:00 GMT
#3608
On February 13 2013 16:53 GTR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 13 2013 16:50 LaNague wrote:
ok so why is dyrus sitting in winter clothes in a computer store or something and streaming league games :D


It's TSM's LAN room.

GTR are you back to playing League? We used to play a lot but I think I removed you when you became inactive to make room. Or do you just not play on NA anymore, since you live in Australia and all.
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GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51706 Posts
February 13 2013 08:01 GMT
#3609
On February 13 2013 17:00 HazMat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 13 2013 16:53 GTR wrote:
On February 13 2013 16:50 LaNague wrote:
ok so why is dyrus sitting in winter clothes in a computer store or something and streaming league games :D


It's TSM's LAN room.

GTR are you back to playing League? We used to play a lot but I think I removed you when you became inactive to make room. Or do you just not play on NA anymore, since you live in Australia and all.


I'm back and play NA, but I don't solo queue or anything because it's frustrating to play on my latency.
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dogmatix
Profile Joined April 2011
Australia339 Posts
February 13 2013 08:04 GMT
#3610
ehhh its not too bad. Hard to be super high elo winnerman but as long as the ping isn't fluctuating I don't find it frustrating.
Chexx
Profile Joined May 2011
Korea (South)11232 Posts
February 13 2013 08:08 GMT
#3611
Club Masters is now live!
WriterFollow me @TL_Chexx
HazMat
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States17077 Posts
February 13 2013 08:08 GMT
#3612
On February 13 2013 17:01 GTR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 13 2013 17:00 HazMat wrote:
On February 13 2013 16:53 GTR wrote:
On February 13 2013 16:50 LaNague wrote:
ok so why is dyrus sitting in winter clothes in a computer store or something and streaming league games :D


It's TSM's LAN room.

GTR are you back to playing League? We used to play a lot but I think I removed you when you became inactive to make room. Or do you just not play on NA anymore, since you live in Australia and all.


I'm back and play NA, but I don't solo queue or anything because it's frustrating to play on my latency.

Yeah I know what you mean. Let's normals sometimes for old time's sake huehue.
www.youtube.com/user/ShakeDrizzle | League and SSBM content creator | Armada's Youtube Editor
Phunkapotamus
Profile Joined April 2010
United States496 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-13 08:19:10
February 13 2013 08:19 GMT
#3613
On February 13 2013 16:50 LaNague wrote:
ok so why is dyrus sitting in winter outdoor clothes in a computer store or something and streaming league games :D

It's cold for San Jose right now. Dyrus is from Hawaii so he probably thinks he'll die without the coat.
"Do a barrel roll"
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
February 13 2013 08:23 GMT
#3614
San Francisco is cold. :<
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Two_DoWn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States13684 Posts
February 13 2013 08:33 GMT
#3615
Freezing in LA too. Like horribly cold.
"What is the air speed velocity of an unladen courier?" "Dire or Radiant?"
Amui
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada10567 Posts
February 13 2013 08:39 GMT
#3616
On February 13 2013 17:33 Two_DoWn wrote:
Freezing in LA too. Like horribly cold.


10C is cold?
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Gaslo
Profile Joined February 2011
Finland951 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-13 08:44:41
February 13 2013 08:44 GMT
#3617
On February 13 2013 17:39 Amui wrote:
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On February 13 2013 17:33 Two_DoWn wrote:
Freezing in LA too. Like horribly cold.


10C is cold?


Yeah i was laughing at the same thing. Its -1c here, and i think its warm, lol.
RagequitBM
Profile Joined November 2011
Canada2270 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-13 08:53:54
February 13 2013 08:48 GMT
#3618
On February 13 2013 15:49 koreasilver wrote:
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On February 13 2013 14:22 RagequitBM wrote:
There was a study showing a second PD on Vayne and Kog was almost always better than a LW.

Also in season 2, resists were much more used than HP stacking like now. I rarely see armor in my games, just players with 5k - 6k health.

Yeah, but those calculations assumed that you could just literally sit there and autoattack for the entire duration without having to kite around. This is especially important when talking about Vayne because if Vayne doesn't get her W proc then the entire calculation becomes meaningless.


Yeah, but with 2 PDs, you get your proc off within just over a second. And in pro-games, I see Vayne get her 3 attacks off more often than not. Even if you are kiting, you're hitting the same target.

And in my games, I very rarely have to switch targets before getting at least one proc off. Also on Leaguepedia it says that BotrK out damages BT if the enemy has 3k health. Which is basically everyone.|

I'm not sure if the people responding to me have actually tried it, or are just theorying it. In practice it feels much stronger than it does on paper for me. But maybe that's just my elo
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zodde
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden1908 Posts
February 13 2013 08:58 GMT
#3619
On February 13 2013 17:44 Gaslo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 13 2013 17:39 Amui wrote:
On February 13 2013 17:33 Two_DoWn wrote:
Freezing in LA too. Like horribly cold.


10C is cold?


Yeah i was laughing at the same thing. Its -1c here, and i think its warm, lol.


I was just saying to my friend that it was pretty nice weather outside, only -8C :D
TheKefka
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Croatia11752 Posts
February 13 2013 09:00 GMT
#3620
On February 13 2013 17:58 zodde wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 13 2013 17:44 Gaslo wrote:
On February 13 2013 17:39 Amui wrote:
On February 13 2013 17:33 Two_DoWn wrote:
Freezing in LA too. Like horribly cold.


10C is cold?


Yeah i was laughing at the same thing. Its -1c here, and i think its warm, lol.


I was just saying to my friend that it was pretty nice weather outside, only -8C :D

I'm snowed in rofl
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